Agreed, not going to read a whole thread.

The OBVIOUS problem with the AR is that the AR Operation skill actually adds KICK and Dispersion.... at least the way I read this statement in the English Language.....

5% Bonus to AR kick and dispersion per level (as the SMG says 5% Reduction to Kick and dispersion per level)

So once you wrap your noodle around that, the fact that you can't 1HK with it like a shotgun/ forge gun; nor is there any sort of splash damage, and it is iron sights..... ask a Laser Rifle user to use the iron sights and then voice concerns.... same with snipers (who are so silly to remain in the same spot after popping me or one of my squad from the same mountain top not behind the redline so far they are out of range of everything.

So the obvious problems to me is that according to the description, skilling into AR actually makes them worse, there is no general 4x type of scope, the Breach variant is the biggest joke of a weapon, the capacity skill makes little to no sense....how do I add 15 bullets but not another clip entirely.

Well, snipers have given me plenty of greif but there is one thing that I haven't had to worry about. No-scoopers. that is all

Well, snipers have given me plenty of greif but there is one thing that I haven't had to worry about. No-scoopers. that is all

Because there is no problem.

Seriously everyday I come on these forums its something different:

KB/M
Laser Rifle
Mass Driver
AR

Take your pick, then have a good day.

The more I look at uprising related threads the more I believe that in the next build we will see less AR dominance due to skill nerfs and no damage/range related AR racial bonuses. Amarr + Lazors for the dominance!!!

5% Bonus to AR kick and dispersion per level (as the SMG says 5% Reduction to Kick and dispersion per level)

Awwwww, someone gets wasted by AR.....and can't use one worth a crap himself......

Do you even know the idea of a "reference weapon"/"standar weapon"?

AR is REGULAR/NORMAL in all the aspects except as AV weapons.

Laser rifle vs Assault Rifle at medium/large distance = Laser rifle wins.

Shotgun vs Assault Rifle at close distance = Shotgun wins.

Heavy Machine Gun vs Assault Rifle at close distance = HMG wins.

Mass Driver vs Assault Rifle at close distance = Mass Driver wins.

Sniper Rifle vs Assault Rifle at large distance = Sniper Rifle wins.

AR is a standar weapon that is normal, it's "flexible" like in the real life, like in every game. Then you have the specialized weapons than work better than the "standar weapon (AR)" in one aspect but are worse in the other.

Nerf this thread. I'm out of here.

Sorry for the english. See you.

Am I the only one that gets that we are in dropsuits?

With a powered exoskeleton one should be able to remove kick altogether. I mean, if I were to go through all the trouble of getting one of those together it would certainly take kick into consideration when shooting massively powered weapons. That's like getting a decked out Audi A10 with no radio.

But you did bring up a good point... why the hell should a sniper have to kneel to fire if he is highly skilled. I often walk and fire a charge when i begin to get over run. That has led to some of the most exhilarating moments I've had in this game. Nothing like having to maintain your charge level- knowing when to shoot with a half charge or a full, patiently taking fire knowing you just need one hit, delivering that hit before your shields are gone, all the while never running so you disrupt the charge. So if I am so highly skilled, why should the rifle be doing figure 8s? If I were running and firing (which you can't even do with a charged) I could see it.

I think the obvious aspect to this future tech is skill and an exoskeleton would negate kickback.