Hey guys, I will leave a word here.
I don't know what it means, but I feel like it should help.
"Secondary"

its just pretty absurd that in your optimal range you're at a disadvantage vs an ar in terms of damage and accuracy, yet they cost the same in terms of fitting.. riiight...

whys it have a primary weapons fitting cost?

The SMG is good for one thing, ripping off the rest of your enemies armor when your main weapon is out of ammo/needs reload and they are close to death.

Other than that, it is pretty much useless. If I am running a suit that has no anti-infantry main, I will rock a scrambler instead of a SMG for my method of self-preservation. It's not ideal by a long shot, but gives me a better chance to actually kill somebody, or severely hurt them. Even the most basic scrambler with a headshot is something fierce against solid suits, just requires good aim or random luck. But I'll take my odds over using a SMG as a main defense.

duvolle ar 90/13 34.1 x 750rpm= 25575/60 =426.25dps
ishukone asmg 68/11 23.1 1052.6rpm= 24315.06/60 =405.251dps
the skills effect spread and kick the same way. if anything the ar is getting a better bonus do to it's starting accuracy.

yeah. they're good, but idk about that fitting cost and how an ar outdamages them in smg optimals. idk. it's just odd.

Bottom line SMG is a secondary weapon.

I plan on skilling into it after the reset. I think the fact you can compare it to the AR is pretty damn good to be honest.

smg > scrambler pistol by far

duvolle ar 90/13 34.1 x 750rpm= 25575/60 =426.25dps
ishukone asmg 68/11 23.1 1052.6rpm= 24315.06/60 =405.251dps
the skills effect spread and kick the same way. if anything the ar is getting a better bonus do to it's starting accuracy.

yeah. they're good, but idk about that fitting cost and how an ar outdamages them in smg optimals. idk. it's just odd.

probably have better luck spamming a scrambler pistol at an ar guys face point blank than using an smg... and the damn pistols have longer range and better fitting. i dunno.. i use to swear by smgs.

As a scout, I have learned to fear scrambler pistols

PRO SMG against armor 441.72359
PRO AR against armor 383.625

Flux Grenades

Edit: Right, shields
AR = 468.875
SMG = 380.93594

If they had AR range, they'd actually make a decent main weapon. I'd bump shield damage to 95% though, just saying.

you gotta take into consideration the spread and range man.
i dunno.. its just a gimped assault rifle. i guess that's what ccp wants, i dunno if that's what i really need.
i mean sure itll tear people a new ahole with worse gear but on equal footing the things at a disadvantage in its optimal vs an ar. not much point, just gonna spec scramblers instead.

i dunno if giving them range is the answer.
i mean atm if an ar and a smg stand point blank next to each other and unload the ar wins. if every bullet hits each other that ar guys gonna win. that doesnt make sense to me.

the spread is much less noticeable at level three sharpshooter plus smg opp

There are two errors with your logic.

Fallacy #1: You are assuming every bullet hits the target.
Fallacy #2: You are assuming the damage output is continuous rather than discrete.

I've used the SMG for a long time and seem to win most up close encounters with AR users. Since we're both jumping around neither of us are landing 100% of our shots, but since I have a higher rate of fire I am landing more. And if it gets to the point where we are both low on health, he has to wait much longer for the bullet to fire.

And at the end of the day it is a secondary, as mentioned numerous times.

i wouldn't say a thing if the fitting cost didn't make me wonder if i was fitting an ar on.

Why must sidearms have very low fitting costs? The fact is you can fit it in a S slot.