Oh my god! They were in your line of sight?!? This is clearly an exploit.

You know what is immune to team-ganking? Scout suits. They can run fast enough to keep away from team-mates that want to stand in your view, or suicide grenade you, plus you will be agile enough to dodge incoming LAVs. As far as I know, that's all that your team can do.

AWOXERS!

Being killed by your team mates during a battle is something that should not happen. Yet somehow the idiots have discovered how to do this. I am not talking about accidental fog of war stuff, these idiots are purposely killing blues. Additionally they stand in front of you ruining your line of sight. This is total nonsense and I believe it to be an exploit that needs to be addressed quickly. I will not elaborate here on how exactly they are doing it but it is causing players to lose suits and gear. We need a way to report and or block these idiots before they ruin the game. I'll buy no more stuff with Aurum if CCP can not find a way to stop this practice before it gets out of control.

Hum, stand in front of your view, hunh? Sounds to me like your one of them worthless redline snipers, that do nothing but contribute, more than anyone, to your own teams defeat, in a skirmish. Tell me I'm wrong. That's what you were doing wasn't it? Well sounds to me like you got everything you deserved. My hat's off to those who ruined your day, as much as you where ruining their's.

aah, did someone just end up on the same team as Immobile Infantry?

Being killed by your team mates during a battle is something that should not happen. Yet somehow the idiots have discovered how to do this. I am not talking about accidental fog of war stuff, these idiots are purposely killing blues. Additionally they stand in front of you ruining your line of sight. This is total nonsense and I believe it to be an exploit that needs to be addressed quickly. I will not elaborate here on how exactly they are doing it but it is causing players to lose suits and gear. We need a way to report and or block these idiots before they ruin the game. I'll buy no more stuff with Aurum if CCP can not find a way to stop this practice before it gets out of control.

I keep trying to tell people. It's not all of Immobile, just me and a few other guys. That said, based on the time this thread was made... I'm going to chalk this up to another one of my friends and my victories at playing Jeep Squad.

Hum, stand in front of your view, hunh? Sounds to me like your one of them worthless redline snipers, that do nothing but contribute, more than anyone, to your own teams defeat, in a skirmish. Tell me I'm wrong. That's what you were doing wasn't it? Well sounds to me like you got everything you deserved. My hat's off to those who ruined your day, as much as you where ruining their's.

Let me guess- you were redline sniping, and someone purposely teamkilled you for being useless.
Or someone stole your sweetroll.

Hum, stand in front of your view, hunh? Sounds to me like your one of them worthless redline snipers, that do nothing but contribute, more than anyone, to your own teams defeat, in a skirmish. Tell me I'm wrong. That's what you were doing wasn't it? Well sounds to me like you got everything you deserved. My hat's off to those who ruined your day, as much as you where ruining their's.

so your a sniper camping at your redline?? that's what it sounded like anyway..... id TK you too if we were losing a fight and had five snipers camping at our spawn.

By the way, OP, if you think this is an exploit, then you will definitely go raging mad once you hear that your corp got robbed of all of it's assets and ISK while CCP does nothing but congratulate the thieves.

Let me guess- you were redline sniping, and someone purposely teamkilled you for being useless.
Or someone stole your sweetroll.

oh god, here we go
Inb4anymorecrappyskyrimmemes

Welcome to new eden.

Adapt or die.

Can i haz your stuff ?

So how can you Team Kill now?

Grenades and Vehicular Homicide use to work, but they were fixed.

I used to team kill, until I took a LAV in the....Oh sorry.

I saw that coming from a mile away but managed to restrain myself from using it.

So untrue, in order to get robbed your corp has to grant access to the thief, a poor choice can result in a poor outcome. Having an EVE toon that is a CEO of a corp as well as a leader of a small Alliance I fully know the player choices you make have consequences, CCP put the AWOXer on my team not me, big big difference.

Never been robbed because I have a choice as to who has access to corp stuff, welcome to New Eden where your actions should have both results and consequences .... think they call it the "Butterfly Effect".

You look like a very intelligent player. That said, you probably already realize that even your closest Eve pals can become traitors overnight. It's all part of the meta game of building trust and then exploiting that trust. Take this as an example:

Once Upon A Time...

There was a massive alliance during the early years of Eve Online called Band of Brothers. They controlled so much of the economy and chunks of null sec that they had practically a monopoly on things. One day a director who was within the innermost circle of trusted members and who has powerful connections and access to key roles became disgruntled. He got in touch with an alliance known as Goonswarm Federation (a fledgling alliance at the time) who were already building up one of the most elaborate spy networks in New Eden history. Later on, when the time was ripe, that director took most of the ISK, Assets, and even went so far as to literally disband the entire Band of Brothers alliance within a single day. Territories became opened to the enemies of BoB and the CEOs and remaining directors were scrambling to do damage control (too little too late).

The event made such an uproar that players demanded CCP to undo such treachery and that no one player should have that much power. But CCP responded by saying "Sorry, no rules were broken. It stays as is."

Think about it. One man who was among the most trusted in all of New Eden's most powerful alliance became a spy and traitor overnight. If that can happen to such a powerful group, it will happen to your corp one day.

I could not restrain myself, your post put it in my mind as soon as I saw it.

I don't blame you, I was half way through writing the same thing you did when i thought to myself " I have more class than this" and I went for the inb4 instead.

Ya, I don't have more class. But in my defense I did look at your post and this thread in general 4 times at least before I broke down and posted it.

When that happens, and human nature indicates it is indeed when and not if, it will be because of a choice I made. I'll be pissed but such is the nature of EVE gameplay.

A simple fix like not allowing vehicular homicide blue on blue to occur for the first 2 minutes of initially entering a battle would solve this. Perhaps a "Retribution" like criminal timer should result after a blue on blue kill, right now no risk for the killers, if they become red to both sides I suspect their like for ganking will subside. Then they could have a taste of the blue sniper rifles they so despise.

As far as player choice is concerned, I check the team composition now and will not battle with II on my team, I also keep track of who the idiots are and don't team up with them once their actions have proven who they are.

A Kick or Forgive option after a TK resolves this. It also stays true to the lore as malfunctioning clones were disabled in Templar One. Autokick should be automatic after three friendly kills.

-100 SP is also a deterrent as is a hefty fine from CONCORD at the end of the game [10-50M ISK] a small portion of it going to reimburse the victim for lost gear. Turning off FF has done nothing, players will find a way to TK if they like. CCP has to implement consequences.

You look like a very intelligent player. That said, you probably already realize that even your closest Eve pals can become traitors overnight. It's all part of the meta game of building trust and then exploiting that trust. Take this as an example:

Once Upon A Time...

There was a massive alliance during the early years of Eve Online called Band of Brothers. They controlled so much of the economy and chunks of null sec that they had practically a monopoly on things. One day a director who was within the innermost circle of trusted members and who has powerful connections and access to key roles became disgruntled. He got in touch with an alliance known as Goonswarm Federation (a fledgling alliance at the time) who were already building up one of the most elaborate spy networks in New Eden history. Later on, when the time was ripe, that director took most of the ISK, Assets, and even went so far as to literally disband the entire Band of Brothers alliance within a single day. Territories became opened to the enemies of BoB and the CEOs and remaining directors were scrambling to do damage control (too little too late).

The event made such an uproar that players demanded CCP to undo such treachery and that no one player should have that much power. But CCP responded by saying "Sorry, no rules were broken. It stays as is."

Think about it. One man who was among the most trusted in all of New Eden's most powerful alliance became a spy and traitor overnight. If that can happen to such a powerful group, it will happen to your corp one day.

Being killed by your team mates during a battle is something that should not happen.

I'm looking forward to all the spying / deep game mechanics and what not, it is that aspect of game play that places the New Eden universe atop the pinnacle of gaming experiences, imho.

At the moment, I keep reading about how EVE players are planning how to capitalize on Dust's assimilation into EVE.

I am hoping that somewhere along the way, us Dust bunnies turn the tables, one economy to rule them all, right? :)

You can topple a line of dominoes from either end...

I don't think he was talking about himself.

Perhaps.... that is what you think .... any chance you might be wrong? lol the insufferable arrogance of ego, always entertaining.

I'm looking forward to all the spying / deep game mechanics and what not, it is that aspect of game play that places the New Eden universe atop the pinnacle of gaming experiences, imho.

At the moment, I keep reading about how EVE players are planning how to capitalize on Dust's assimilation into EVE.

I am hoping that somewhere along the way, us Dust bunnies turn the tables, one economy to rule them all, right? :)

You can topple a line of dominoes from either end...

Welcome to new Eden

A Kick or Forgive option after a TK resolves this. It also stays true to the lore as malfunctioning clones were disabled in Templar One. Autokick should be automatic after three friendly kills.

-100 SP is also a deterrent as is a hefty fine from CONCORD at the end of the game [10-50M ISK] a small portion of it going to reimburse the victim for lost gear. Turning off FF has done nothing, players will find a way to TK if they like. CCP has to implement consequences.

There will always be those to whom the concept of vigilante justice is offensive. They will demand that the police apprehend the dangerous "criminals" because they are easy to hate.

But think hard, sir, before you advocate their destruction. It's the vigilantes, not the police, that stand between you and an endless tide of AFK farmers and other red-line cowards.

The concept of justice is great. However, vigilantes often seem to end up causing plenty of injustice over time... even if only because vigilantism opens the door to those who aren't looking for justice.

No, we don't need policing either -- we need a system with adequate incentives by way of costs and rewards.