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Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors
O.M.N.I. Initiative
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Posted - 2013.04.03 20:25:00 -
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Sev Alcatraz wrote:I honestly think he is an idiot....trying to put out a fire with petrol
Fine I'll let you guys whine in your own inarticulate ways and get whatever CCP gives you, and then watch you whine because it wasn't what you wanted, and then watch Free Beers try and write an uber thread to build consensus on what it WAS you wanted after the fact...
But judging by the last thread you started Sev, I'm thinking that I don't have to take your non-constructive engagement too seriously...
My initial response the the OP was, "What exactly do you want."
And there hasn't been any sort of real response yet. It has only been, "we want better sights." ...WTF does that mean!? ...10 different sights? Interchangeable sights, or different ones for different guns? Right now we are looking at what, like 12 different weapons, with like 7-12 meta levels for each... How do you suggest all of them are dealt with as far as customizations go? Do you only care about AR customizations, or are you also thinking about laser users and HMG users? What kind of interface are you thinking about to use these different customizations? How will you be able to know which dropsuits will have the customizations you want? Etc...
Flesh out your flipping concern rather than just say "I want an ACOG" |
PAs Capone
The Tritan Industries
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Posted - 2013.04.03 20:59:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:LT Dans Legs wrote:Im wondering if we can customize our weapons in Uprising. Its been a long time since my AR has had a scope on it. I would like a foregrip and a suppressor also. Has anyone heard anything about this being implemented? Are you MOTHERKITTEN KIDDING ME??!?!?! What the KITTEN does a foregrip have to do with ANYTHING! Why do you kite flying COD-FISH have to have these wastes of developer time!?! Explain this to me...nobody has! What would it add to the game except 2 seconds of oohing and ahhing for the user?!?! If you must...just turn your sound down and imagine that it is suppressed. Or use your imagination to imagine the stupid foregrip is there if you have to. While your at it, you can imagine sparkles cming out of the barrel and you riding on ponies instead of LAVs as well! Can you imagine the developer investment time going into all of the visual animations for weapon customization variations, graphical changes, visual graphics caching, database expansion, not to mention the complexity of layered fittings management so that you have to 'fit' both your gun and your suit???!?! These aren't talked about because they are soo stinking far away in plans that probably nobody is working on them except in the form of post-it notes right now.
Beren, this is your original response to the OP. Im not too sure, but I cant really see how this is "My initial response the the OP was, "What exactly do you want." "
The push back you are getting now is the defiance of people to accept your needless rant to a question they deemed valid. Thats how opions work, they are deemed valid by the person formulating them.
Now the points you've made later in this thread are very valid:
"I'm not trolling I'm trying to arrive at some sort of actionable conclusion. I want a clear answer on what you guys are expecting for these ambiguous 'customizations'. What I've heard so far is people just want design fluff and not actual dynamically affecting and additive content. You have no idea that when you say 'customizations' CCP is thinking the same thing. They may think customizations means 'a different ACOG at each meta level'. Customizations could mean, Amarr ARs have better zoom than Caldari, while Minmatar HMGs are more suppressed than everyone elses. Then they'd say HTFU, we gave you a wide variety of different HMG variants why do you need something else...So in the effort of getting you guys to articulate your requests into actual programmable content.
Do you want...(pick one or explain exactly what you mean)?:
A.) Mostly more visual choices to weapons
B.) Mostly stat based adjustments (through new modules) to current weapons
C.) A complete overhaul to the ability to minipulate the first hand view, feel, and sounds of weapons?
D.) Basically a fitting screen specifically for each weapon so that you have something like highslots and lowslots to fill for each and the requirement to buy and stock specific weapon modules rather than dropsuit modules?
Now what would you trade out of the next release in order to see this feature...(what would you scrap in the next release after uprising)...?
E.) Actual PvE content
F.) Players battling over nullsec space
G.) An actual player based market
H.) New maps "
Dev resources are limited and other things are definitely more important for gameplay than wepon upgrades, but the mentality of people on the forums where they provide a hot headed HTFU response, is BS and can only be described as childish. Im not saying you are childish, and most of what you post isnt, but come on man, you could have posted your later points and saved this thread and made it a valid discussion.
I appreciate your later points and hope you continue to formulate logical, well thought out opinions as you have in the past. If we all stopped for a moment and tried to remain patient, we would all come away from the forums with less headache and more valuable feedback for the devs, and us. |
Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors
O.M.N.I. Initiative
324
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Posted - 2013.04.03 21:32:00 -
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My bad on the emotion then. I've just had enough of the over 400 threads that mention weapon customization. It is because most of them begin with..."In game xx they have ACOGs so it's what I'm used to..." Im just tired of those posts, this one pushed me over. I wanted a real suggestion for once. |
PAs Capone
The Tritan Industries
45
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Posted - 2013.04.03 21:46:00 -
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Trust me man, I totally understand. Its hard to not get emotional over something we care about and its obvious that you care a great deal about the success of Dust. Thanks for coming back here and appologizing man, top notch character there. Id love to squad up with ya sometime, and look forward to your next post. |
LT Dans Legs
The Tritan Industries
77
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Posted - 2013.04.03 22:48:00 -
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I was just discussing something. If you are tired of the subject then why did u even stop to read it let alone write a 1000 word essay about it? You have way too much time on your hands. I was just bored at work and was thinking about it and figure i would make a FRIENDLY post to see if anyone had read or heard anything on the matter. Because when CCP released chromosome they stated that they have removed the scope to strip down the weapons to a basic state so they could test a bare weapon so we could later modify it. That way if you prefer a scope you could throw one on, and if not then you dont have to. In no way was I whining about anything. I was just curious of everyones take on the matter and if they heard anything. Im terribly sorry I wrote a simple thread that set you off. Next time I feel like posting a simple discussion I will contact Beren Hurin first to make sure its ok to start a simple thread over a simple matter. In no way shape or form was I intending to whine or gripe about anything. Have a nice day. Sheesh. |
Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
475
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Posted - 2013.04.03 22:56:00 -
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i want ammunition that will disintegrate the body regardless of what happens to it.
or the ability to shoot a corpse. |
Sev Alcatraz
The Tritan Industries
203
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Posted - 2013.04.03 23:00:00 -
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I want exicutions lol when an enemy is wounded you have the option to execute them with a pistol or something |
Prius Vecht
Red and Silver Hand
Amarr Empire
34
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Posted - 2013.04.03 23:19:00 -
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the funny thing is we all want weapon customization. Beren comes from a universe where its called weapon upgrade modules but we call it somethin different. to him a stabilizer is a front grip. I just think about it as a future where upgrades have gotten much more advanced and proficient.
as long as the function is the same most console players wont care and it will stay true to EVE's story so pc players will be happy. still, many of us do want a variety with the scopes and thats understandable. red, blue, green dot sights, IR scopes and different levels of magnification need to be available. |
Diesel Punk
The Tritan Industries
3
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Posted - 2013.04.03 23:51:00 -
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I would love to have specific ammos for situations. I hope that's a soon coming feature. I should be able fire em MD rounds, or thermal that burn for seconds in the area. It just makes sense.
We have fitting screens for vehicles, drop suits, why not for weapons too? I don't see how this would cause the game to crash ( O.O paranoid much? ) on a similar not I want to be able to mod my drones in eve. Similar concept so why not?
I think under barrel attachments make sense. Laser pointers would be awesome so swarms can just dumb fire and track. We could also look into under barrel anti-swarm attachments to better defend our tank brothers.
And can we mod our equipment as well? Rep tool needs a lens to boost repping (or some such suitable sounding futuristic name. Mustn't sound to common...)
In the end the name of the mod doesnt matter, suppression is suppression and a recoil reduce is a recoil reduce. I just want some.
While we're at it, can we get HUD mods too? Range grid overlay, thermal view to better spot bullet paths or some such. It's a solid idea. I hope they run far with it. |
ZiwZih
The Tritan Industries
103
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Posted - 2013.04.04 00:27:00 -
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Sev Alcatraz wrote:I want exicutions lol when an enemy is wounded you have the option to execute them with a pistol or something
Fatality? |
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LT Dans Legs
The Tritan Industries
79
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Posted - 2013.04.04 01:35:00 -
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Grenades wrote:LT Dans Legs wrote:Im wondering if we can customize our weapons in Uprising. Its been a long time since my AR has had a scope on it. I would like a foregrip and a suppressor also. Has anyone heard anything about this being implemented? Plasma Weapons + Suppressor ????!!  LMFAO
Ya, why not. I mean cmon. We have the ability to cloak and become invisible, but not the technology to suppress a rifle. Hmmm now im lmfao. You guys are funny. |
Spademan
Hydra II-Omega
8
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Posted - 2013.04.04 01:37:00 -
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As long as I can put lasersights on my laser rifle and an underslung Massdriver on my Mass driver, I'll be happy |
Mithridates VI
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
591
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Posted - 2013.04.04 01:37:00 -
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LT Dans Legs wrote:Grenades wrote:LT Dans Legs wrote:Im wondering if we can customize our weapons in Uprising. Its been a long time since my AR has had a scope on it. I would like a foregrip and a suppressor also. Has anyone heard anything about this being implemented? Plasma Weapons + Suppressor ????!! LMFAO Ya, why not. I mean cmon. We have the ability to cloak and become invisible, but not the technology to suppress a rifle. Hmmm now im lmfao. You guys are funny.
We don't have the ability to cloak and become invisible. When we do, likely the lore explanation will be based on actual SCIENCE because we're already exploring military applications of metamaterials which can bend light around an object.
Now you explain your plasma suppressor. |
LT Dans Legs
The Tritan Industries
79
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Posted - 2013.04.04 01:50:00 -
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Lol, it is the future. Why wouldnt you be able to. Im very sorry this thread has been turned into arguments. I do thank everyone that has posted with an open mind. You see there are many that would like to think about attachments on they're weapons I mean who wouldnt? |
Mithridates VI
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
591
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Posted - 2013.04.04 01:57:00 -
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LT Dans Legs wrote:Lol, it is the future. Why wouldnt you be able to. Im very sorry this thread has been turned into arguments. I do thank everyone that has posted with an open mind. You see there are many that would like to think about attachments on they're weapons I mean who wouldnt?
Sure, totally brush off the question with "anything can happen in the fuuuuuuture".
Similarly, I want a silencer on my Nova Knives and for my missiles to explode quietly. |
Barnabas Wrex
The Tritan Industries
168
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Posted - 2013.04.04 08:10:00 -
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This is an amazing idea and post you beautiful stallion of a man. Anyone who disagrees with this post is obviously an idiot. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
119
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Posted - 2013.04.04 08:24:00 -
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Idd like a chainsword, silencer, forgrip, stock, extended clip or belt fed, hair trigger, muzzle vents, flash supressor, underbarrel anti tank depleted uranium grenade with tipped EMP rounds launcher on my Assault Rifle and a ballistics 3D imagin scope that predicts all possible movement.
Lucky i am not picky ....right..:p
Joke aside, idd kill for a few weapon customizations... |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
54
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Posted - 2013.04.04 08:30:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:LT Dans Legs wrote:Im wondering if we can customize our weapons in Uprising. Its been a long time since my AR has had a scope on it. I would like a foregrip and a suppressor also. Has anyone heard anything about this being implemented? Are you MOTHERKITTEN KIDDING ME??!?!?! What the KITTEN does a foregrip have to do with ANYTHING! Why do you kite flying COD-FISH have to have these wastes of developer time!?! Explain this to me...nobody has! What would it add to the game except 2 seconds of oohing and ahhing for the user?!?! If you must...just turn your sound down and imagine that it is suppressed. Or use your imagination to imagine the stupid foregrip is there if you have to. While your at it, you can imagine sparkles cming out of the barrel and you riding on ponies instead of LAVs as well! Can you imagine the developer investment time going into all of the visual animations for weapon customization variations, graphical changes, visual graphics caching, database expansion, not to mention the complexity of layered fittings management so that you have to 'fit' both your gun and your suit???!?! These aren't talked about because they are soo stinking far away in plans that probably nobody is working on them except in the form of post-it notes right now.
Fore-grip
used to decrease the recoil of the gun at the cost of how heavy it is
put this on a assault rifle you (should) have little to no recoil
Suppressed fire (reduces) the profile signature you give of when you shoot so people looking at the map will not see you
scopes (varying from close range medium range and long range scopes ~battle field vets will know the difference
-call of duty just took these ideas and DUST all over them and its people like you who reject extremely good ideas due to OTHER GAMES-
give nuclear dawn a shot
Suppressant
suppressant makes your gun not give away your presence on the mini map
REALLY HELPFUL IF YOUR A SCOUT AND YOU DON"T WANT TO GET BOMBARDED BY THERE COMMANDER
additional decreases your bullet flash so when in thermal vision mode (as the assault to see inv classes) firing your gun does not blind you ~ as much
Scope
let's you to effectively engage at medium to long range combat without the inaccuracy of a iron sight
(if playing as assault class this makes it hard to use thermal as the scope's lenses it self give of heat signature)
second best recommended for scout class so you can sneak around and shoot some one at long ranges more easily
(that's just 2 attachments and they both change the game so much)
but with people like you playing its no wonder i got 20/5 without much challenge
and most of the time your killing buildings not players
*edit*
i think i may have been trolled |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
120
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Posted - 2013.04.04 08:43:00 -
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Quote:not to mention the complexity of layered fittings management so that you have to 'fit' both your gun and your suit
Weapons having their own PG & CPU would add more depth instead of taking away from it.
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Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
1266
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Posted - 2013.04.04 08:52:00 -
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LT Dans Legs wrote:Im wondering if we can customize our weapons in Uprising. Its been a long time since my AR has had a scope on it. I would like a foregrip and a suppressor also. Has anyone heard anything about this being implemented?
Dont dream pal. |
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