DUST Search - Reset or No reset hmmm

SoTa PoP wrote:

XeroTheBigBoss wrote:

SoTa PoP wrote:

XeroTheBigBoss wrote:

The legend345 wrote:

Well ive been talking to alot of players and we have sadly agree this game has to reset. If you disagree go make alt and play on that. Its hell lol. But instead of resetting there should be gear limited servers (i first heard this from slap26 but im sure its been thought of before). I think this would be perfect it allows new players to play in a fair enviorment at all times. Then if they feel tough they go into the unlimited servers. But the unlimited servers must offer a larger isk reward otherwise to some players there isn't a reason to play better players. I really like the idea what do you guys think?

I am neutral on this topic.

From not being selfish and thinking what new players go through,
YES! At commercial release there NEEDS to be a stat wipe.

From a selfish POV ( I have to get from vets because I am a beast no matter what) No! We don't wanna grind AGAIN, we want CCP to keep to there word!

Edited your mistakes. Keep up the good work.

Thank you, should we make this 3 threads I school you? Still waiting on that link where CCP is in the middle of legal issues for their BETA not being up to your standards. Did you graduate HS btw? I really am curious It's a legitimate question. The stuff you have been posting in the other threads I am not so sure....

I didn't realize I was getting schooled - who needs HS education when you can listen to a scrub who thinks he knows more then someone whose been here since June.

I'm probably going to farm a lot of likes from our conversations ^_^

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The legend345 T3RROR SQUAD 143	Posted - 2013.04.01 17:14:00 - [1] - Quote Well ive been talking to alot of players and we have sadly agree this game has to reset. If you disagree go make alt and play on that. Its hell lol. But instead of resetting there should be gear limited servers (i first heard this from slap26 but im sure its been thought of before). I think this would be perfect it allows new players to play in a fair enviorment at all times. Then if they feel tough they go into the unlimited servers. But the unlimited servers must offer a larger isk reward otherwise to some players there isn't a reason to play better players. I really like the idea what do you guys think?
XeroTheBigBoss Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 92	Posted - 2013.04.01 17:17:00 - [2] - Quote The legend345 wrote: Well ive been talking to alot of players and we have sadly agree this game has to reset. If you disagree go make alt and play on that. Its hell lol. But instead of resetting there should be gear limited servers (i first heard this from slap26 but im sure its been thought of before). I think this would be perfect it allows new players to play in a fair enviorment at all times. Then if they feel tough they go into the unlimited servers. But the unlimited servers must offer a larger isk reward otherwise to some players there isn't a reason to play better players. I really like the idea what do you guys think? I am neutral on this topic. From not being selfish and thinking what new players go through, YES! At commercial release there NEEDS to be a stat wipe. From a selfish POV ( I have to get from vets because I am a beast no matter what) No! We don't wanna grind we want a advantage we need a clear advantage on new players so we can remain relevant in this game!
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1866	Posted - 2013.04.01 17:19:00 - [3] - Quote XeroTheBigBoss wrote: The legend345 wrote: Well ive been talking to alot of players and we have sadly agree this game has to reset. If you disagree go make alt and play on that. Its hell lol. But instead of resetting there should be gear limited servers (i first heard this from slap26 but im sure its been thought of before). I think this would be perfect it allows new players to play in a fair enviorment at all times. Then if they feel tough they go into the unlimited servers. But the unlimited servers must offer a larger isk reward otherwise to some players there isn't a reason to play better players. I really like the idea what do you guys think? I am neutral on this topic. From not being selfish and thinking what new players go through, YES! At commercial release there NEEDS to be a stat wipe. From a selfish POV ( I have to get from vets because I am a beast no matter what) No! We don't wanna grind AGAIN, we want CCP to keep to there word! Edited your mistakes. Keep up the good work.
The legend345 T3RROR SQUAD 143	Posted - 2013.04.01 17:19:00 - [4] - Quote XeroTheBigBoss wrote: The legend345 wrote: Well ive been talking to alot of players and we have sadly agree this game has to reset. If you disagree go make alt and play on that. Its hell lol. But instead of resetting there should be gear limited servers (i first heard this from slap26 but im sure its been thought of before). I think this would be perfect it allows new players to play in a fair enviorment at all times. Then if they feel tough they go into the unlimited servers. But the unlimited servers must offer a larger isk reward otherwise to some players there isn't a reason to play better players. I really like the idea what do you guys think? I am neutral on this topic. From not being selfish and thinking what new players go through, YES! At commercial release there NEEDS to be a stat wipe. From a selfish POV ( I have to get from vets because I am a beast no matter what) No! We don't wanna grind we want a advantage we need a clear advantage on new players so we can remain relevant in this game! Im neutral as well but i think this is a fair idea for both sides imo.
Paran Tadec Imperfects Negative-Feedback 953	Posted - 2013.04.01 17:24:00 - [5] - Quote No. CCP just needs to fix matchmaking, or do away with it entirely.
slap26 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 529	Posted - 2013.04.01 17:25:00 - [6] - Quote They just need to make -pubs (high sec)(standard gear limit, militant tanks) -FW and PC (low sec) (bring whatever) when I say standard gear, I mean just the suit and just the tank hull. If you can fit a duvolle on a standard type 2 suit more power to you but you would be sacrificing something to do it.
XeroTheBigBoss Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 93	Posted - 2013.04.01 17:25:00 - [7] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: XeroTheBigBoss wrote: The legend345 wrote: Well ive been talking to alot of players and we have sadly agree this game has to reset. If you disagree go make alt and play on that. Its hell lol. But instead of resetting there should be gear limited servers (i first heard this from slap26 but im sure its been thought of before). I think this would be perfect it allows new players to play in a fair enviorment at all times. Then if they feel tough they go into the unlimited servers. But the unlimited servers must offer a larger isk reward otherwise to some players there isn't a reason to play better players. I really like the idea what do you guys think? I am neutral on this topic. From not being selfish and thinking what new players go through, YES! At commercial release there NEEDS to be a stat wipe. From a selfish POV ( I have to get from vets because I am a beast no matter what) No! We don't wanna grind AGAIN, we want CCP to keep to there word! Edited your mistakes. Keep up the good work. Thank you, should we make this 3 threads I school you? Still waiting on that link where CCP is in the middle of legal issues for their BETA not being up to your standards. Did you graduate HS btw? I really am curious It's a legitimate question. The stuff you have been posting in the other threads I am not so sure....
Winscar Shinobi Better Hide R Die 128	Posted - 2013.04.01 17:25:00 - [8] - Quote While I personally don't care as I will play either way, I can see the positives and negatives of both, but at the end of the day a full reset is a temporary fix, because there will always be new players at a disadvantage. THAT SAID the highest influx of new players will always be on release week, so if a reset did occur that would be the only viable time for one to occur. Eventually though everyone who wants to play will max out what they want maxed. Ergo why a reset is only a temporary solution as compared to just letting everyone max their skills. But a common starting point for all interested players could be good for everyone. Or it could do nothing. Many posibilites
XeroTheBigBoss Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 93	Posted - 2013.04.01 17:27:00 - [9] - Quote Winscar Shinobi wrote: While I personally don't care as I will play either way, I can see the positives and negatives of both, but at the end of the day a full reset is a temporary fix, because there will always be new players at a disadvantage. THAT SAID the highest influx of new players will always be on release week, so if a reset did occur that would be the only viable time for one to occur. Eventually though everyone who wants to play will max out what they want maxed. Ergo why a reset is only a temporary solution as compared to just letting everyone max their skills. But a common starting point for all interested players could be good for everyone. Or it could do nothing. Many posibilites I agree with you 100%. I been saying this in 2 other threads but this one Sota kid follows me around like a 12 year old wanting my autograph.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1866	Posted - 2013.04.01 17:28:00 - [10] - Quote XeroTheBigBoss wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: XeroTheBigBoss wrote: The legend345 wrote: Well ive been talking to alot of players and we have sadly agree this game has to reset. If you disagree go make alt and play on that. Its hell lol. But instead of resetting there should be gear limited servers (i first heard this from slap26 but im sure its been thought of before). I think this would be perfect it allows new players to play in a fair enviorment at all times. Then if they feel tough they go into the unlimited servers. But the unlimited servers must offer a larger isk reward otherwise to some players there isn't a reason to play better players. I really like the idea what do you guys think? I am neutral on this topic. From not being selfish and thinking what new players go through, YES! At commercial release there NEEDS to be a stat wipe. From a selfish POV ( I have to get from vets because I am a beast no matter what) No! We don't wanna grind AGAIN, we want CCP to keep to there word! Edited your mistakes. Keep up the good work. Thank you, should we make this 3 threads I school you? Still waiting on that link where CCP is in the middle of legal issues for their BETA not being up to your standards. Did you graduate HS btw? I really am curious It's a legitimate question. The stuff you have been posting in the other threads I am not so sure.... I didn't realize I was getting schooled - who needs HS education when you can listen to a scrub who thinks he knows more then someone whose been here since June.

LXicon VENGEANCE FOR HIRE 74	Posted - 2013.04.01 17:28:00 - [11] - Quote first off, see the STICKIED CCP Official Stance on Skill Point Resets secondly, i notice that it's WAY easier when i use my alt with 1.3M SP as opposed to my main with 6.0M SP. matchmaking does work when there is a large enough player base AND a spread in skill levels. if there was a reset of SP then all the VETS would be playing with the new players. that would be worse for new players.
Cat Merc Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 337	Posted - 2013.04.01 17:29:00 - [12] - Quote There will always be SP disparity. No amount of resets will change that, unless they reset every hour. Another reset will be pointless. /thread
Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 167	Posted - 2013.04.01 17:30:00 - [13] - Quote How about you all wait until Uprising hits before you condemn us all to another reset? Improved matchmaking, all new and improved FW, plus PC will hopefully address the imbalance between noobs and vets.
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 48	Posted - 2013.04.01 17:30:00 - [14] - Quote No reset, respec or refunds. I would like to see a system that polices the high sec districts for boosting, farming, AFKers and and maybe incorrect suits. Now before everyone rages hear me out for a moment. Hopefully districts will be like systems - in the future - and we can travel to any district in any system at anytime. We may have to get a ride from a space taxi but we can go if we want to. There would be rules set for each district that was based on the security status of the system in which the district's planet is in. Sec status rules 1.0 Starter gear only no vehicles - for noobs 0.9 Starter gear and free LAV 0.8 MLT gear and MLT vehicles 0.7 Standard gear and MLT vehicles 0.6 Advanced gear and Standard vehicles 0.5 Advanced gear and Advanced vehicles. 0.4 and under is anything goes. As with EVE we need a "carebear" area that allows new, low SP and casual gamers to have a place to go and not get destroyed. Concord could police the high sec areas. There is two ways to do this. The first way would not allow prohibited suits from being spawned( very boring ). The second and personal favorite would allow anything to be spawned or drooped but Concord would show up ( the speed at which they show up depends on sec status- higher sec = faster concord) and kill the out of suit mercs or destroy anything dropped by the mercs or anything over the designated equipment and a hefty fine like getting caught with contraband This kind of system would allow for the training of new mercs in an area where top players would not like to be or limit top players to a set of equipment. This would also be a place where rivalries could be fought out; ensuring that skill is the determining factor. Skills would not be policed only equipped gear and deployed equipment and vehicles. This would also add to the sandbox feel of the game. If I want to go to a district that is held by a corp I should be able to. I might get biomassed before I walk two steps but at least I can do what I want, where ever I want and when ever. A merc or squad could just show up and screw around but not capture the district. District timers - to me - are kind of backwards but it seems to be the only way to do it.
XeroTheBigBoss Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 95	Posted - 2013.04.01 17:33:00 - [15] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: XeroTheBigBoss wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: XeroTheBigBoss wrote: The legend345 wrote: Well ive been talking to alot of players and we have sadly agree this game has to reset. If you disagree go make alt and play on that. Its hell lol. But instead of resetting there should be gear limited servers (i first heard this from slap26 but im sure its been thought of before). I think this would be perfect it allows new players to play in a fair enviorment at all times. Then if they feel tough they go into the unlimited servers. But the unlimited servers must offer a larger isk reward otherwise to some players there isn't a reason to play better players. I really like the idea what do you guys think? I am neutral on this topic. From not being selfish and thinking what new players go through, YES! At commercial release there NEEDS to be a stat wipe. From a selfish POV ( I have to get from vets because I am a beast no matter what) No! We don't wanna grind AGAIN, we want CCP to keep to there word! Edited your mistakes. Keep up the good work. Thank you, should we make this 3 threads I school you? Still waiting on that link where CCP is in the middle of legal issues for their BETA not being up to your standards. Did you graduate HS btw? I really am curious It's a legitimate question. The stuff you have been posting in the other threads I am not so sure.... I didn't realize I was getting schooled - who needs HS education when you can listen to a scrub who thinks he knows more then someone whose been here since June. I'm probably going to farm a lot of likes from our conversations ^_^ So did you just admit ya dropped out?
Cyn Bruin Imperfects Negative-Feedback 768	Posted - 2013.04.01 17:36:00 - [16] - Quote The legend345 wrote: Well ive been talking to alot of players and we have sadly agree this game has to reset. If you disagree go make alt and play on that. Its hell lol. It's not to difficult with a new character. I made another character and he's sporting a 5kdr with only 1mil SP. BUT.... Match making needs to be tweeked/implemented so say less than 3mil SP characters are thrown together. But no matter what happens, the guys that have been playing this beta for a year will always have a leg up on the guys that are just starting or have only been playing for a few months. Knowledge and experience are huge in a game like this, there is no way to level that playing field.
Nstomper Commando Perkone Caldari State 212	Posted - 2013.04.01 17:36:00 - [17] - Quote I would love for them to have atleast 1 more reset
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1871	Posted - 2013.04.01 17:39:00 - [18] - Quote Family circumstance forced me to drop out my senior year and get a GED instead if you want the truth. My college studies is psychology and education with a minor in history in LCC, a community college until I transfer to TAMUI University. Does that help stroke yourself enough even though you're still a bigger idiot then any middle schooler I've met? lmao
Tiel Syysch Imperfects Negative-Feedback 681	Posted - 2013.04.01 17:39:00 - [19] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Sec status rules 1.0 Starter gear only no vehicles - for noobs 0.9 Starter gear and free LAV 0.8 MLT gear and MLT vehicles 0.7 Standard gear and MLT vehicles 0.6 Advanced gear and Standard vehicles 0.5 Advanced gear and Advanced vehicles. 0.4 and under is anything goes. The reason this is a bad idea: I'll just max my passive skills and have a damage/health advantage vs new players in highsec even though we're using the same gear. Not sure why people want a reset so badly. You're just going to make everyone grind again, and in another 2-3 months you're going to ask for another reset because people got ahead in SP and you feel that's the reason you're dying.
XeroTheBigBoss Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 95	Posted - 2013.04.01 17:40:00 - [20] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Family circumstance forced me to drop out my senior year and get a GED instead if you want the truth. My college studies is psychology and education with a minor in history in LCC, a community college until I transfer to TAMUI University. Does that help stroke yourself enough even though you're still a bigger idiot then any middle schooler I've met? lmao So when are you schooling if you are always on Dust? Edit- Did I just catch you....AGAIN..?

Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 663	Posted - 2013.04.01 17:42:00 - [21] - Quote I'll just stay on my 3.3 mil toon, no problems so far
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1871	Posted - 2013.04.01 17:43:00 - [22] - Quote XeroTheBigBoss wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Family circumstance forced me to drop out my senior year and get a GED instead if you want the truth. My college studies is psychology and education with a minor in history in LCC, a community college until I transfer to TAMUI University. Does that help stroke yourself enough even though you're still a bigger idiot then any middle schooler I've met? lmao So when are you schooling if you are always on Dust? Edit- Did I just catch you....AGAIN..? As luck would have it I can play DUST514 off any PS3. Awesome, eh? Who'd a thunk. And I wish I played dust all day. I don't even have 10,000 kills - which is really low for my corp :(
XeroTheBigBoss Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 95	Posted - 2013.04.01 17:47:00 - [23] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: XeroTheBigBoss wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Family circumstance forced me to drop out my senior year and get a GED instead if you want the truth. My college studies is psychology and education with a minor in history in LCC, a community college until I transfer to TAMUI University. Does that help stroke yourself enough even though you're still a bigger idiot then any middle schooler I've met? lmao So when are you schooling if you are always on Dust? Edit- Did I just catch you....AGAIN..? As luck would have it I can play DUST514 off any PS3. Awesome, eh? Who'd a thunk. And I wish I played dust all day. I don't even have 10,000 kills - which is really low for my corp :( Sure that isn't just you being a LOGI? Ah cool! So at your college they have a Ps3 in the room and you can just go over and play Dust while the professor is giving a lecture... nice..What college did you say you are attending BVLLSH1T University?
D Avenue KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 12	Posted - 2013.04.01 17:47:00 - [24] - Quote I dont get all the fuss? it is easy to understand both sides of the argument CCP says no more resets unless ABSOLUTELY necessary. So then all Die hard players put in extra time and work to start leveling up there character now, since they know they need too. So yes any VET would say "no to a reset" based on the time they put into the game/build already(If they knew another reset was coming there would be 1/2 the player base there is today) (i know i wouldn't be playing). And for CCP turn around and say haha now we are going to reset you to 0 SP again, I can see why any vet would be mad! It is obvious Then a person who just joined would say "hey that's not fair" however this information has been out there for anyone to see for awhile now. So them not being informed is at least 1/2 there own fault if not more. Hey, any game in beta always has a player base concern, which has been brought up god knows how many times on this forum. So all these posts do in the forum is cause flame wars
TheMarkOf22 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 91	Posted - 2013.04.01 17:49:00 - [25] - Quote reset accomplishes nothing, all the players who will be playing this game already are, it's an open public beta that's free to play. Players that have already given up on the game will always be at a disadvantage when attempting to try to play it again. Best thing to do is make a militia gear only game types, so players don't get destroyed before learning the game, that's the only real solution. Also, beta testing for free for well over a year without any sort of compensation is lame, the least they could do is let us keep our stats and back up their statements of "no sp reset" Also, a reset means it's going to take that much longer to get a maxed out character, full release in may and ps4 drops in november that's what barely 5 months of playing time before ps4.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 967	Posted - 2013.04.01 17:50:00 - [26] - Quote XeroTheBigBoss wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: XeroTheBigBoss wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Family circumstance forced me to drop out my senior year and get a GED instead if you want the truth. My college studies is psychology and education with a minor in history in LCC, a community college until I transfer to TAMUI University. Does that help stroke yourself enough even though you're still a bigger idiot then any middle schooler I've met? lmao So when are you schooling if you are always on Dust? Edit- Did I just catch you....AGAIN..? As luck would have it I can play DUST514 off any PS3. Awesome, eh? Who'd a thunk. And I wish I played dust all day. I don't even have 10,000 kills - which is really low for my corp :( Sure that isn't just you being a LOGI? Ah cool! So at your college they have a Ps3 in the room and you can just go over and play Dust while the professor is giving a lecture... nice..What college did you say you are attending BVLLSH1T University? oh look someone hating on logi's again. and btw i'd advise you to stop trying to insult sota, as you can see he really doesn't give a ****, and you're just embarrassing yourself.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1875	Posted - 2013.04.01 17:51:00 - [27] - Quote XeroTheBigBoss wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: XeroTheBigBoss wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Family circumstance forced me to drop out my senior year and get a GED instead if you want the truth. My college studies is psychology and education with a minor in history in LCC, a community college until I transfer to TAMUI University. Does that help stroke yourself enough even though you're still a bigger idiot then any middle schooler I've met? lmao So when are you schooling if you are always on Dust? Edit- Did I just catch you....AGAIN..? As luck would have it I can play DUST514 off any PS3. Awesome, eh? Who'd a thunk. And I wish I played dust all day. I don't even have 10,000 kills - which is really low for my corp :( Sure that isn't just you being a LOGI? Ah cool! So at your college they have a Ps3 in the room and you can just go over and play Dust while the professor is giving a lecture... nice..What college did you say you are attending BVLLSH1T University? LOL Oh I didn't realize how hard you were trolling till now. How sweet would it be if they let you play during class? Oh, you can play cell phone games actually, lol. Keep reaching kid, If you want a troll match I'll utterly destroy you. BTW - Here's another bit of information everyone seems to know but you. I'm a Heavy. You know, that fat guy who laughs as scrubs like you run in front of me thinking you can out DPS me. When did PFBHz standards for recruitment drop so low?
ca ronic Moffit Bros 0	Posted - 2013.04.01 17:52:00 - [28] - Quote would be nice for noobs if they had a place to play, instead of just getting killed and respawning 10 times. If the vets want to stomp blueberries make them do it with level 1 skills. And dont let the vets bring militia gear into the noob stomps, its too cheap. I do just as bad with the $12,000 assault fit as I do with a $70,000 suit. Many battles seem to end 50-0 clone count. Those are pretty lopsided games. When is someone a vet? Maybe over something like 4 million SP? .
Yay Adski Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 166	Posted - 2013.04.01 17:53:00 - [29] - Quote Don't need a reset. The newbs getting owned by vets should be the last thing that puts them off this game.
reversed transcriptas Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 4	Posted - 2013.04.01 17:53:00 - [30] - Quote XeroTheBigBoss wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: XeroTheBigBoss wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Family circumstance forced me to drop out my senior year and get a GED instead if you want the truth. My college studies is psychology and education with a minor in history in LCC, a community college until I transfer to TAMUI University. Does that help stroke yourself enough even though you're still a bigger idiot then any middle schooler I've met? lmao So when are you schooling if you are always on Dust? Edit- Did I just catch you....AGAIN..? As luck would have it I can play DUST514 off any PS3. Awesome, eh? Who'd a thunk. And I wish I played dust all day. I don't even have 10,000 kills - which is really low for my corp :( Sure that isn't just you being a LOGI? Ah cool! So at your college they have a Ps3 in the room and you can just go over and play Dust while the professor is giving a lecture... nice..What college did you say you are attending BVLLSH1T University? Xero read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection



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