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Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 750	Posted - 2013.03.29 15:45:00 - [31] - Quote Django Quik wrote: Damnit, I wish people would stop noticing how awesome pistols are! We must stamp it out! Hey, remember the last person to write a thread on how good scrambler pistols are? You do? When's the last time they wrote anything? Recant what you have said! Deny the very existence of scrambler pistols! Do not go 'missing' like the others before you! Sincerely, Your Local Secret Society
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1145	Posted - 2013.03.29 16:01:00 - [32] - Quote Scramblers are a true skill weapon- to add to that, the scrambler pistol operation skill is probably the most useful skill in the game- it gives you another round in the clip every level. If someone did that well with them, clearly they have excellent aim.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 670	Posted - 2013.03.29 16:21:00 - [33] - Quote Reiki Jubo wrote: 41-5 not really that impressive. is it skill or taking advantage of broken mechanics? give scrambler pistols 150% like all the other weapons and see who gets 40 kills with it. lol, the butthurt is strong in this one.
Marston VC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 135	Posted - 2013.03.29 16:39:00 - [34] - Quote scrambler pistols are pretty good guys, we have a guy in our corp who actually specializes in them and does ridiculously well with them.
Grim Tanker 187. 3	Posted - 2013.03.29 16:54:00 - [35] - Quote I run a scrambler as my primary along with a swarm. I can tell you from experiance that they are very good. I have lvl 3 pistols, with all side arm skills lvl 3. I average 7/3 not including kills from vehicles, but I'm no where near 41/5 good. I can't even begin to describe how good it feels to 1 shot someone with it there is that little delay between you shooting them and them getting hit with the bonus damage, it's just enough time to look them in the eyes and smile.
Utsuru Kaiju IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 17	Posted - 2013.03.29 17:41:00 - [36] - Quote XeroTheBigBoss wrote: Heavies are like stand up comedians man. You guys think nothing short of Superman should be able to kill you. That's just the ones with no skill lol! The one's that actually have skill think the gods themselves shouldn't be enough to kill them. CCP this is how you fix this problem. Stop eating around the bush and just make them all Immortal and have them restricted to a game mode that only Heavies can play in and just have them fight themselves all day, problem solved! YOU ARE WELCOME! Kinky. In all seriousness, the scrambler pistol is awesome, it just takes someone with more than half a working brain to do well with it is all. I'm still speccing up in my scrambler pistol tree, but even the basic one is pretty wicked when used correctly.
Tolen Rosas Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 67	Posted - 2013.03.29 17:51:00 - [37] - Quote Greasepalms wrote: Dusters Blog wrote: the headshot bonus for using sniper rifles [including the Thales railgun officer sniper rifle] is 200%. The scrambler pistol is 450%. thats embarassing, no weapon should exceed a sniper rifle in headshot bonus and overall anything exceeding 300% is just overkill. this as been one of the more broken mechanics in the game for some time and its needs fixing. its another reason games must always be tuned with the skilled user in mind, because the skilled shooter breaks the game when given a 450% damage modifier to play with. Getting a higher bonus for sitting in a mountain rather than being on the heat of the battle with 6 rounds per mag and trashy irons? Get outta here. ur missing the point, bro. he's right no weapon should have a bigger headshot bonus than a railgun sniper rifle and 450% if thats true is redonkulous. it begs to be exploited.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 670	Posted - 2013.03.29 17:56:00 - [38] - Quote Tolen Rosas wrote: ur missing the point, bro. he's right no weapon should have a bigger headshot bonus than a railgun sniper rifle and 450% if thats true is redonkulous. it begs to be exploited. Exploited how? By shooting you in the head in CQC? Good luck with that bro. People talking like if landing headshots with a scrambler is easy... SMH
Coleman Gray RED COLONIAL MARINES Covert Intervention 144	Posted - 2013.03.29 18:08:00 - [39] - Quote I once killed a fellow heavy by throwing a flux grenade at him, not sure if I should feel awesome or scared.
Laheon Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 317	Posted - 2013.03.29 18:26:00 - [40] - Quote Tolen Rosasur wrote: missing the point, bro. he's right no weapon should have a bigger headshot bonus than a railgun sniper rifle and 450% if thats true is redonkulous. it begs to be exploited. Consider this: A sniper rifle can be shot from across the map to hit a guy. There's very little risk from heavies, assaults, or logis. Snipers are a different issue. To use a scrambler pistol, though, you need to be, at most, at medium range. Chances are that your target has seen you, too. To get a headshot on a guy who's moving around and jumping around is quite impressive. And if you can manage to sneak up on a heavy and headshot him, well, that's his fault for not being supported by his team. Teamwork is OP.

Xander Mercy SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 98	Posted - 2013.03.29 18:36:00 - [41] - Quote Marston VC wrote: scrambler pistols are pretty good guys, we have a guy in our corp who actually specializes in them and does ridiculously well with them. cough cough Xander Mercy cough
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2204	Posted - 2013.03.29 19:30:00 - [42] - Quote Tolen Rosas wrote: ur missing the point, bro. he's right no weapon should have a bigger headshot bonus than a railgun sniper rifle and 450% if thats true is redonkulous. it begs to be exploited. It's true, and if it "begs to be exploited" how come you don't see everyone using Scramblers? It's not as OP as it sounds. That 450% damage still only barely tops the damage a Sniper is dealing on a headshot.
Dr Debo Galaxy GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 283	Posted - 2013.03.29 19:34:00 - [43] - Quote BOOM HEADSHOT!!!
Grezkev The Red Guards 154	Posted - 2013.03.29 19:38:00 - [44] - Quote There is no freakin way triple stuffed oreos should be allowed. That's just OP.
copy left Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 79	Posted - 2013.03.29 19:41:00 - [45] - Quote I was being sarcastic in my original post.... Because I was the one who did it lmao
copy left Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 79	Posted - 2013.03.29 19:43:00 - [46] - Quote aden slayer wrote: So the OP is trying to say that Heavies are not allowed to die by the scrambler pistol. if this is the kind mercs new Eden has to offer. Than we are F****d...... yea... you were wrong buddy
copy left Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 79	Posted - 2013.03.29 19:44:00 - [47] - Quote I didnt mean to start a blood bath! lol
Sobriety Denied FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET 519	Posted - 2013.03.29 19:51:00 - [48] - Quote not that great of a troll by 2/10 for effort
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 679	Posted - 2013.03.29 20:09:00 - [49] - Quote copy left wrote: I was being sarcastic in my original post.... Because I was the one who did it lmao Cool Story Bro.
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core Gallente Federation 63	Posted - 2013.03.29 20:28:00 - [50] - Quote holy balls,props to the guy, he probably has scambler prof pretty high.

Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 55	Posted - 2013.03.29 21:00:00 - [51] - Quote Tolen Rosas wrote: Greasepalms wrote: Dusters Blog wrote: the headshot bonus for using sniper rifles [including the Thales railgun officer sniper rifle] is 200%. The scrambler pistol is 450%. thats embarassing, no weapon should exceed a sniper rifle in headshot bonus and overall anything exceeding 300% is just overkill. this as been one of the more broken mechanics in the game for some time and its needs fixing. its another reason games must always be tuned with the skilled user in mind, because the skilled shooter breaks the game when given a 450% damage modifier to play with. Getting a higher bonus for sitting in a mountain rather than being on the heat of the battle with 6 rounds per mag and trashy irons? Get outta here. ur missing the point, bro. he's right no weapon should have a bigger headshot bonus than a railgun sniper rifle and 450% if thats true is redonkulous. it begs to be exploited. Fine then buff the SR headshot bonus to 450%, just leave the garbage Scrambler Pistol alone, it is garbage enough as it is. Any changes to the negative for it and it would just be a worthless waste of ISK/AUR, anyone considering using one should just leave them be, they're truly not worth it.
Laheon Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 323	Posted - 2013.03.29 21:04:00 - [52] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Fine then buff the SR headshot bonus to 450%, just leave the garbage Scrambler Pistol alone, it is garbage enough as it is. Any changes to the negative for it and it would just be a worthless waste of ISK/AUR, anyone considering using one should just leave them be, they're truly not worth it. SP's aren't garbage. They're fun. And... No to the SR buff. That would be ridiculous. Headshot a proto heavy with the militia sniper rifle. Or anything, really.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 55	Posted - 2013.03.29 21:13:00 - [53] - Quote Laheon wrote: SP's aren't garbage. They're fun. And... No to the SR buff. That would be ridiculous. Headshot a proto heavy with the militia sniper rifle. Or anything, really. Scramblers are garbage, no one should use them. TBH, I agree with you about the SR buff, I'm just of the opinion that the SR buff would be preferable to a Scrambler nerf. They're garbage enough already, no point in taking the only positive away from them.
Laheon Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 324	Posted - 2013.03.29 21:19:00 - [54] - Quote I have fun with my scrambler pistol. I recently switched from my toxin SMG... I rarely use my sidearm, but I sometimes enjoy sneaking up on someone trying to cap a point, take my time, and headshot them. Instakill, no downsides.
copy left Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 79	Posted - 2013.03.29 21:21:00 - [55] - Quote Sobriety Denied wrote: not that great of a troll by 2/10 for effort I was trying to troll? tell me what trolling is then?
KalOfTheRathi Talon Strike Force LTD Sleepless Knights Alliance 287	Posted - 2013.03.29 21:26:00 - [56] - Quote copy left wrote: I was being sarcastic in my original post.... Because I was the one who did it lmao So you were just out for a Troll in the DUST? Breach Scrambler 115 HP Weaponry lvl 5 +10% Damage Mod +10% 115 * 1.21 = 139 HP 450% head shot bonus = 626 HP 2 Head Shots = Dead Heavy, Dead anything. Recall that Head Shots will kill any Merc faster and with less total damage than Body Shots. The difference is unknown although it might only appear that way based on the various multipliers to the head. Even Large Rail Gun Turrets get 195% to the head for example.
Prius Vecht Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 32	Posted - 2013.03.29 21:46:00 - [57] - Quote 450% bonus to the SR? thats probably the worst idea ever. how about no? leave SR at 200% and lower scrambler pistol to 150. bad mechanics shouldnt stay because people like them. thats stupid as heck.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 681	Posted - 2013.03.29 21:54:00 - [58] - Quote Prius Vecht wrote: bad mechanics shouldnt stay because people like them. thats stupid as heck. Scrambler pistols should get nerfed because you don't like being killed by head shots? That's just stupid. So now scrambler pistols have been added to the list "this weapon is OP" huh? I'm now waiting for someone to seriously make a case for Nova Knives being OP.
Prius Vecht Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 32	Posted - 2013.03.29 22:02:00 - [59] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Prius Vecht wrote: bad mechanics shouldnt stay because people like them. thats stupid as heck. Scrambler pistols should get nerfed because you don't like being killed by head shots? That's just stupid. So now scrambler pistols have been added to the list "this weapon is OP" huh? I'm now waiting for someone to seriously make a case for Nova Knives being OP. no smart guy they should be lowered because the headshot mod is excessive. any idiot can see that. sniper rifle headshot mod 200% railgun turret headshot mod 195% scrambler pistol headshot mod 450%???? please explain that. does it shoot black holes or something???
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2207	Posted - 2013.03.29 22:03:00 - [60] - Quote Prius Vecht wrote: 450% bonus to the SR? thats probably the worst idea ever. how about no? leave SR at 200% and lower scrambler pistol to 150. bad mechanics shouldnt stay because people like them. thats stupid as heck. scrambler pistol higher headshot bonus than railgun turret? no way. cant wait 4 the scrambler rifle It's NOT a bad mechanic though. It makes the Pistol a viable weapon in skilled hands, instead of a waste of space on a fitting.



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