The skilled Pistol users AVOID getting into CQC because EVEN THEY CAN'T HIT CONSISTENTLY AT THAT RANGE.

Skilled SMG users deliberately aim for CQC because SMGs are one of the best options at that range.

It's not about my aim (or the best Pistol users in the game sucking), it's about how the weapon works and what it's good at doing.

Also, no, I didn't do the math, I worked from experience both with and against the weapon, and the primary point I was making (which is the ACTUAL damage output, not the "assuming you have infinite devhax ammo in your clip") is still correct. My core argument isn't invalidated by the fact that there was a small flaw in part of the working that I hadn't 100% confirmed.

if you use a breach its almost 500. and then you add the two complex sidearm mods, weaponry... if I get a headshot, you're kissin' pavement.

actually, it comes to 612 and change with those, if I remember correctly. though my base(115) might be off, as I don't entirely like the breach. too slow, have to get a headshot, and in the heat of the moment, it gets a bit difficult.

Which, unfortunately, demonstrates that dust is too much like eve. In my humble opinion, fps games should be about player skill, not who can spend more time fapping off to a spreadsheet or some kind of "dust fitting tool"

Sorry but you just described every single shooter out there. W e could all have equal everything,and all our SP would be pointless, but where's the fun in that?

all the weapons are under-powered and they should be buffed not nerfed.

Heavies are like stand up comedians man. You guys think nothing short of Superman should be able to kill you. That's just the ones with no skill lol! The one's that actually have skill think the gods themselves shouldn't be enough to kill them. CCP this is how you fix this problem. Stop eating around the bush and just make them all Immortal and have them restricted to a game mode that only Heavies can play in and just have them fight themselves all day, problem solved! YOU ARE WELCOME!

I know I am coming into the "talk" late, but this is what I think: the scrambler pistol seems to be OP especially where it can do immense amount of damage to Heavy. But you know what, I can make the same claim for the assault rifle (which no one really talks about because its the most commonly used weapon) which is extremely OP. When you look at the damage per bullet and RPM for the duvolle its beyond powerful. In fact, I've watched videos (and I've been on the relieving end) the Balac tear through people as if they weren't wearing armor.

Now that I have gotten that out of my system, here is what I really believe: all the weapons are under-powered and they should be buffed not nerfed. And if CCP can't do that leave the weapons as they are (but buff the heavy, improve the dropship and work on the missile turrets so they actually work correctly). Instead of complaining that the weapons are OP, or crying because you died 10 times to someone using a proto suit, learn to fight back. Use tactics, or change your playstyle, or evolve based on the battle. And even if your team gets slaughtered, accept the loss, examine why your team was crushed and figure out how you will improve your game-play. As some of the other comments have stated HTFU.

That's all I have to say,

Osiris.

Heavies are fine how they are. I'm hard enough to kill in my heavy type-1 as is.

Wow! Props to you sir! Most Heavies cry so hard that they are squishy. I tell them play Scout than I'll sympathize.

50% of the time I am a heavy with nothing but two scrambler pistols.