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DarkPrometheus
Dark Force Katana
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Posted - 2013.03.28 23:57:00 -
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With the up coming conguest mode. I came up with Idea inspired by xLTShinySidesx to create a federation for small corps to help each other grow, train with other, and most inportantly help each gain districts.
{ A Quote from shinys post
What we are thinking about is with the upcoming conquest mode we would like us as well as our allies to be able to occupy districts close to each other and be able to support each other on the battlefield during attacks from other corporations or to help your corp fight to gain another district.
For smaller corps, having allies is going to be paramount in the new conquest mode... If we can get a few corps to ally with us, our hope is that we can take a planet with 4-5 districts and have all of us together to defend the planet from the large corporations who will without a doubt dominate conquest without allied opposition. end quote }
If you or your corp is interested just post here
Current Corps in the Federation
* Dark Force Katana
* UNOBTANIUM INC
* Elite Universal
Were also looking to make a council of CEO that represent there corps. Wich will run this Federation
Council Members * DarkPrometheus * xLTShinySidesx * Logic Md |
xLTShinySidesx
UNOBTANIUM INC
3
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Posted - 2013.03.29 17:46:00 -
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Cool site, thanks for doing all the leg work.
Small corps should join, you will need us and we you, help us carve out our own little area in space and support each other to keep it.
Planetary conquest (PC) is going to be the funnest part of this game and a great way to make money for the corp as long as you can keep your district, that's where the FSC comes in, we will all work together to keep our districts and planet so that we can continue to be profitable corps.
After the first week of PC, we should be able to pull in 5mil isk a week just based off clone sales... due to the market not yet being fully functional we can't sell stuff to make money and battles just don't pay enough if you're trying to run proto gear, that's where PC will shine, but if you're a small corp and do it alone you will not last. |
Durn McSnipeFace
Kargatane Kill Team
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Posted - 2013.03.29 22:28:00 -
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I guess i haven't checked, but can you make alliances in DUST?
Or is everyone expected to join this corp, and thus everyone has to apply to the FSC, and everyone will be tagged under FSC eventually?
Honestly I think it's a really good idea, good thinkin! |
DarkPrometheus
Dark Force Katana
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Posted - 2013.03.30 01:10:00 -
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Durn McSnipeFace wrote:I guess i haven't checked, but can you make alliances in DUST?
Or is everyone expected to join this corp, and thus everyone has to apply to the FSC, and everyone will be tagged under FSC eventually?
Honestly I think it's a really good idea, good thinkin!
Hello and thanks.
First FSC is not a Corp, Is a Federation small Corps. So far their are 3 corporations in the federation. |
Mazer Rayleigh
Department of Defence Planetary Response Force Eternal Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.03.30 02:55:00 -
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This sounds great, message me in game. |
xLTShinySidesx
UNOBTANIUM INC
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Posted - 2013.03.30 06:10:00 -
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Hey, I won't be in game this weekend due to the Easter holiday and family but to answer an earlier question, no you don't join our corp, your corp becomes an alliance with our corps (verbally) agreeing to help us defend our planet and we'll do the same for your corp and if you want to take another district, we'll help you fight the battle.
If you don't have a corp, you're more than welcome to join any of the corps in the alliance.
The more corps our alliance gets the bigger the planet we can secure on opening day of PC, so far we have 3 corps allianced which will not give us enough to own a planet, we need one more for that and we will be able to obtain a small planet with four districts(the smallest planets have 4), 1 district for each corp to control, however, if we get more to alliance we can take a bigger planet which will make it tougher for the bigger corps to take from us. |
Durn McSnipeFace
Kargatane Kill Team
1
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Posted - 2013.03.30 14:35:00 -
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xLTShinySidesx wrote:Hey, I won't be in game this weekend due to the Easter holiday and family but to answer an earlier question, no you don't join our corp, your corp becomes an alliance with our corps (verbally) agreeing to help us defend our planet and we'll do the same for your corp and if you want to take another district, we'll help you fight the battle.
If you don't have a corp, you're more than welcome to join any of the corps in the alliance.
The more corps our alliance gets the bigger the planet we can secure on opening day of PC, so far we have 3 corps allianced which will not give us enough to own a planet, we need one more for that and we will be able to obtain a small planet with four districts(the smallest planets have 4), 1 district for each corp to control, however, if we get more to alliance we can take a bigger planet which will make it tougher for the bigger corps to take from us.
I'm tracking now. The alliance is based off a verbal agreement, since the mechanics of alliances hasn't been added. That's what had me thrown off, heh.
My corp would like to join if you'll have us? Only a few of us in it as of now, but I just started actively recruiting outside of our guild which is in various other games at the moment. So hopefully i'll be able to bring some more killers to FSC's cause ;) |
xLTShinySidesx
UNOBTANIUM INC
3
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Posted - 2013.03.30 15:38:00 -
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Durn McSnipeFace wrote:xLTShinySidesx wrote:Hey, I won't be in game this weekend due to the Easter holiday and family but to answer an earlier question, no you don't join our corp, your corp becomes an alliance with our corps (verbally) agreeing to help us defend our planet and we'll do the same for your corp and if you want to take another district, we'll help you fight the battle.
If you don't have a corp, you're more than welcome to join any of the corps in the alliance.
The more corps our alliance gets the bigger the planet we can secure on opening day of PC, so far we have 3 corps allianced which will not give us enough to own a planet, we need one more for that and we will be able to obtain a small planet with four districts(the smallest planets have 4), 1 district for each corp to control, however, if we get more to alliance we can take a bigger planet which will make it tougher for the bigger corps to take from us. I'm tracking now. The alliance is based off a verbal agreement, since the mechanics of alliances hasn't been added. That's what had me thrown off, heh. My corp would like to join if you'll have us? Only a few of us in it as of now, but I just started actively recruiting outside of our guild which is in various other games at the moment. So hopefully i'll be able to bring some more killers to FSC's cause ;)
Sounds good, we'll be happy to have you guys or anybody for that matter, like was said before, sheer number is not what's important, quality is key... As long as you have a few really skilled mercs to help us fend off attacks we'll be alright.
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xLTShinySidesx
UNOBTANIUM INC
3
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Posted - 2013.03.30 15:42:00 -
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Dark Prometheus, if you can.. Edit your first post to add our two new alliances bringing us up to 5. |
xLTShinySidesx
UNOBTANIUM INC
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Posted - 2013.03.31 18:49:00 -
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Bump |
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Mazer Rayleigh
Department of Defence Planetary Response Force Eternal Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.03.31 20:29:00 -
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Umm, you spelled my corps name wrong.lol |
DarkPrometheus
Dark Force Katana
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Posted - 2013.04.01 00:44:00 -
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Sorry kinda hard to type with the stomach flu :( |
xLTShinySidesx
UNOBTANIUM INC
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Posted - 2013.04.01 15:19:00 -
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Bump
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xLTShinySidesx
UNOBTANIUM INC
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Posted - 2013.04.01 18:42:00 -
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Hey, darkprometheus.. I can't do anything in the FSC website till you accept my application. |
xLTShinySidesx
UNOBTANIUM INC
3
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Posted - 2013.04.02 16:40:00 -
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Bump |
Durn McSnipeFace
Kargatane Kill Team
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Posted - 2013.04.02 16:45:00 -
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For your situational awareness (fysa) there is another group of small corps called "Federation of Small Corps". THeir thread is here Federation of Small Corps
Maybe get them on the same sheet of music that we are? I don't see how it'd be beneficial for anyone who is in a small corp conglomerate to compete with another small corp conglomerate...? I just think that Instead of a bunch of small corps potentially double fisting, alliances maybe we just condense into one, and thus only have 1 website to help keep the potentially large amount of small corps all on the same page and a similar focus?
Just a thought.
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xLTShinySidesx
UNOBTANIUM INC
3
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Posted - 2013.04.02 18:44:00 -
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Durn McSnipeFace wrote:For your situational awareness (fysa) there is another group of small corps called "Small Corps Coalition". THeir thread is here Small Corps CoalitionMaybe get them on the same sheet of music that we are? I don't see how it'd be beneficial for anyone who is in a small corp conglomerate to compete with another small corp conglomerate...? I just think that Instead of a bunch of small corps potentially double fisting, alliances maybe we just condense into one, and thus only have 1 website to help keep the potentially large amount of small corps all on the same page and a similar focus? Just a thought.
There's is similar but is based on the current corp battle system, from what I've read they don't have any plans for the upcoming PC mode.
I would rather our alliance stick as we are... This way we can keep a smaller alliance (under 10 corps) and secure a planet with the same amount of districts.
That's my 2isk anyways |
DarkPrometheus
Dark Force Katana
8
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Posted - 2013.04.02 19:09:00 -
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Just an update! Everyone who applied for site are now members.
I'm think about having the small coalition merge in to our federation the more ther marrier |
xLTShinySidesx
UNOBTANIUM INC
3
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Posted - 2013.04.02 19:17:00 -
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DarkPrometheus wrote:Just an update! Everyone who applied for site are now members.
I'm think about having the small coalition merge in to our federation the more ther marrier
That may work... I just read thru the small corp coalition thread and it seems like their "CEO" has backed out of it because of the new PC coming out so they seem to be falling apart.
I think we have sturdier feet at the moment and a better plan for the future, if you could get some of the corps over there to align with us, it could work out well.
From what I read they only have 3-4 corps with 4-25 people each.
Little update on my end, I had a CEO contact me over the weekend and he decided he wanted to merge his corp with mine so we are gaining an additional 13 members this week bringing us up around 60 members.
With our other 4 corps as well we should have a good amount of mercs for battles if needed.
Remember to tell your corp members to join the chat channel so we can squad up and play together, mazer Rayleigh joined up and played a couple games with us last night and I would like to play with the other corps CEOs as well so we can get to know each other a bit. |
Durn McSnipeFace
Kargatane Kill Team
3
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Posted - 2013.04.02 19:50:00 -
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Right on. I accidentally deleted the email with the info for the chat channel.
could you post it here or in the FSC forum, or message it to me again?
thanks, and sorry for the inconvenience |
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xLTShinySidesx
UNOBTANIUM INC
3
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Posted - 2013.04.02 19:52:00 -
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Durn McSnipeFace wrote:Right on. I accidentally deleted the email with the info for the chat channel. could you post it here or in the FSC forum, or message it to me again? thanks, and sorry for the inconvenience
It's "FSC" |
DarkPrometheus
Dark Force Katana
8
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Posted - 2013.04.02 20:18:00 -
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Hehe I forgot to add I create a channel called federation |
xLTShinySidesx
UNOBTANIUM INC
3
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Posted - 2013.04.02 20:36:00 -
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DarkPrometheus wrote:Hehe I forgot to add I create a channel called federation
Oh, you did? I know allot of us are already in the "FSC" channel, is there already a large group of us in the federation channel? |
DarkPrometheus
Dark Force Katana
8
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Posted - 2013.04.03 00:09:00 -
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not many |
Durn McSnipeFace
Kargatane Kill Team
3
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Posted - 2013.04.03 05:45:00 -
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gotchya, TY! |
NIKIA BETHUNE
Ill Omens
56
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Posted - 2013.04.03 06:10:00 -
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Gl guys u will need it. |
Alcare Xavier Golden
DUST University Ivy League
134
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Posted - 2013.04.03 14:27:00 -
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I'm not trolling your thread...I'm pointing out some things so they can be addressed pre-launch...
So...question....if you're going to ban together many small corps to own a small planet consisting of 3-5 districts and only one corporation can own any given district that means you are now faced with a wealth gap situation...
3-5 corps would be receiving a revenue stream from the the district ownership while the remaining corps wouldn't be receiving anything (and possibly expending in order to take more districts) since we know that corp taxes will not be implemented as part of this build...
ISK transfers between corps don't exist yet...so that's another concern...
Just seems like eventually you'll have a have vs have-not culture in the current proposed environment fairly quickly assuming that small corps will be able to hold onto districts in any case. Ultimately, there are economic and communication concerns that will make it difficult for a band of small corps to defend against large corps with their economy of scale. Keep in mind...a corp with 1000 members could tell their members they're going on a war of take everything and collect 1M isk from each member...now you've got a corp that very quickly and easily has a finincial pool of 1B isk to through against anyone they want in range...you can be certain they'll consolidate their resources by takeing out small corps first...they can attack all your districts and take them via attrition within a week or less.
It's a good rallying point...just not sure how viable this would be... *shrugs* |
Soraya Xel
Gentlemen's Foreign Legion Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2013.04.03 14:43:00 -
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xLTShinySidesx wrote:That may work... I just read thru the small corp coalition thread and it seems like their "CEO" has backed out of it because of the new PC coming out so they seem to be falling apart.
Just a point of correction, the SCC far from 'fell apart'. SCC corps grew large enough to merge into the Gentlemen's Agreement alliance, Nomed continued the SCC to pick up NEW small corps to foster as well, due to his dedication to the community. If you wanted to think of it that way, the first group of Small Corps "graduated". ;) And many of them will be working together on Planetary Conquest.
Best of luck in your endeavors. |
xLTShinySidesx
UNOBTANIUM INC
3
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Posted - 2013.04.03 14:57:00 -
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Alcare Xavier Golden wrote:I'm not trolling your thread...I'm pointing out some things so they can be addressed pre-launch...
So...question....if you're going to ban together many small corps to own a small planet consisting of 3-5 districts and only one corporation can own any given district that means you are now faced with a wealth gap situation...
3-5 corps would be receiving a revenue stream from the the district ownership while the remaining corps wouldn't be receiving anything (and possibly expending in order to take more districts) since we know that corp taxes will not be implemented as part of this build...
ISK transfers between corps don't exist yet...so that's another concern...
Just seems like eventually you'll have a have vs have-not culture in the current proposed environment fairly quickly assuming that small corps will be able to hold onto districts in any case. Ultimately, there are economic and communication concerns that will make it difficult for a band of small corps to defend against large corps with their economy of scale. Keep in mind...a corp with 1000 members could tell their members they're going on a war of take everything and collect 1M isk from each member...now you've got a corp that very quickly and easily has a finincial pool of 1B isk to throw against anyone they want in range...you can be certain they'll consolidate their resources by takeing out small corps first...they can attack all your districts and take them via attrition within a week or less.
It's a good rallying point...just not sure how viable this would be... *shrugs*
I don't understand your wealth gap comment, if we have a planet with 5 districts and each corp owns a district then we will all be making money off excess clone sales.
I do understand that it will be hard for the small group of us to survive but it sure as hell beats doing it alone with no backup.
It seems as if you're basing your whole argument on money, while it is important, the bigger corps can't kill me with isk... They have to defeat me in battle first.
So was your whole point to come in here and give us crap for what we're trying to do? Cause you sure didn't offer any words of guidance or encouragement in your post, it seemed more like a ploy to make everyone think we are screwed. |
xLTShinySidesx
UNOBTANIUM INC
3
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Posted - 2013.04.03 14:58:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:xLTShinySidesx wrote:That may work... I just read thru the small corp coalition thread and it seems like their "CEO" has backed out of it because of the new PC coming out so they seem to be falling apart. Just a point of correction, the SCC far from 'fell apart'. SCC corps grew large enough to merge into the Gentlemen's Agreement alliance, Nomed continued the SCC to pick up NEW small corps to foster as well, due to his dedication to the community. If you wanted to think of it that way, the first group of Small Corps "graduated". ;) And many of them will be working together on Planetary Conquest. Best of luck in your endeavors.
Yeah, I realized that after I posted this, seems like they have a pretty good thing going over there. |
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