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1. Defiance is a kids game. 514 claims it's not, but it is becoming more and more of a kids game. both are easy but the community will make them out to be harder then they are. community will prolly handle Defiance easier since it's pve and most folks here can't handle pvp.

2. good let the kids go play defiance, they suck at 514 and need so many training wheels that it's tanking 514.

3. "Would it be better if we could load up a 64 man team and a couple of CRU's and go looking for places to invade?"
naw man you would hate it. go play the arma2 mod called "Wasteland"; it's EXACTLY what you are talking about cept no mini map, real weapons that take real skill and a REAL mmo map. but for all that, just like Buttnaked said, it's boring. you spend an assload of time traveling and when you get there, the fire fight is intense and usually pretty short. it's the EXACT opposite of what you are used to and even more so the opposite of what you are capable of playing. if 514 was a TRUE mmo, none of you would be here.

4. CCP has the summer to get this thing up and running. if they hit the fall and the game isn't out, they are done. defiance should be off the air by fall and the game will prolly be a LOL in the gaming media, but GTAV? that game will turn 514 into a ghost town. mostly because the crappy younger players who have crappy "parent" will all be on GTAV playing an M rated game instead of doing their homework. if GTAV and 514 come out at the same time, well i guess the 5 or 6 people playing 514 can split up the planets and run the show for what it's worth.

5. this isn't an mmo. and it actually hasn't even reached PFPS status yet. it's a fps that's looking more and more like a pos.

6. thank god ps4 is around the corner and all this kid style garbage will be left behind for a while. gonna be nice to have the adults only console next year. keep saving your pennies, ladies. maybe you can buy one in 2015.

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Speaking of which, aren't you supposed to be gone?

On the contrary, I love watching people double back on their declared intentions and place themselves in a perfect position to be tortured.

"Defiance is a 18+ game ...what you mean is "


you're fighting AI bugs and you ask why it's a kids game?


this is why you guys have such a hard time with 514.

you're kinda dim.

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Watching beta footage of it atm

Looks smooth and PVE looks okay for general fun but looks easy and mutants spawn anywhere out of nowhere, PVP is 4v4 i think and looks crap and pointless

World looks big, not detailed and very samey

Upgrades look decent and customization seem well thought out

Arc event things are just a clusterfuck for ppl to get together and kill some aliens

Aliens themselves look bland and **** tbh and also very stupid and just seems so easy to kill them

Overall its an open world mix of fallout and borderlands with easy unoriginal aliens and is aimed just for something to shoot at in large numbers

I might try out the beta but it does look meh, no purpose to it