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Judge Rhadamanthus
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2013.03.17 00:26:00 -
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I did a little testing this week. Played Skirmish and used CRU drop ships in all games. This is what happened in EVERY game :
72 people spawned in my CRU ship over 14 matches.
1) Game starts and I Spawn a ship and fly to rooftop/unclaimed OBJ. 2) Bluedots attack and first wave suffer deaths. 3) they spawn in my ship over OBJ. 4) they never leave the ship. EVER the whole game, at least 4 of them. 5) the gunners NEVER stop shooting even when I am way off map repping; they shoot the walls, the sky, the front of my ship sending it into spasms.
I move to a OBJ that ground forces are attacking and hover overhead, my ship stays full. None of them drop out. I try landing. Nothing. I move to the spawn near the MCC and land. All of them sit there, even when I sat there for 8 minutes.
Result = My 800k ship locks 4 to 6 people out of the battle for the whole match. We lose 70% of the games. Even though i take risks to get them to OBJs that are free for enemies, they still sit there shooting the sky.
In PUB matches it seems a CRU DS is in-fact good to help the team lose most of the time.
SUGGESTION : (may add to feedback section later. Just venting atm)
The kick from ship thing has been discussed, so ill add something new - How about a GTFO pad? there are many landing pads on structures already. How about at each spawn near the MCC there is a pad that when you land on it all occupants GTFO. Its a safe place and I can get the message to them that they are useless and not wanted.
This can be an addition to any GTFO green light or whatever gets added as per the DS discussion threads.
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Delirium Inferno
Chernova Industries
85
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Posted - 2013.03.17 00:36:00 -
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I've had the opposite experience as you, my CRU dropship usually helps win matches. Of course I'm using my mic and switching to the team chat channel telling people to jump out. |
Judge Rhadamanthus
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2013.03.17 00:40:00 -
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Delirium Inferno wrote:I've had the opposite experience as you, my CRU dropship usually helps win matches. Of course I'm using my mic and switching to the team chat channel telling people to jump out.
Tried it. Silence. Of course these are the results from 14 matches with a 70% loss ratio. By no means fully representative of gameplay as a whole. Also with people in squad chat, they often can't hear me anyway.
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Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
490
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Posted - 2013.03.17 00:51:00 -
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yea my random gunners are always so busy shooting at nothing they fail to shoot the infantry i line em up with |
WyrmHero1945
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
42
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Posted - 2013.03.17 02:01:00 -
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I loled so hard @GTFO pad. I hear you brother. But I see dropship buffs/rework so far, CCP nerfs them more with each patch... |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
594
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Posted - 2013.03.17 02:12:00 -
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I never see reasoning for going out of your way to use a CRU on a dropship. I see them then just go "Why! Why waste the game and the ship like that!".
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Rifter7
Improvise.
96
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Posted - 2013.03.17 02:17:00 -
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dude i was playing an ambush match today and someone took down one of those cru dropships right..
the thing was shot down and hit the L pipe on that 5 point clustered map.. 5 kids crawled out of the wreckage onto that pipe man.
i was like what in the hell just happened, i got a triple kill tho.. dunno why people sit in those things, maybe they just like the view.. |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
594
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Posted - 2013.03.17 02:26:00 -
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Rifter7 wrote:dude i was playing an ambush match today sitting on the straight pipe and someone took down one of those cru dropships right..
the thing was shot down or hit something (probably this one) and hit the L pipe on that 5 point clustered map.. 5 kids crawled out of the wreckage onto that pipe man.
i was like what in the hell just happened, i got a triple kill tho.. dunno why people sit in those things, maybe they just like the view.. Man I spawned into one onetime because it was actually somewhere good. I spawn, but the dropship is completely vertical and falling and I die within the second of spawning. |
Dr Debo Galaxy
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
242
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Posted - 2013.03.17 02:26:00 -
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I never understood why people just sit in the dropship. Whats the fun in that. Maybe instead of GTFO pad there could be a jump light. Kinda the inside of the dropship would have red light flashing so all nongunners could see it. Then maybe they would get the hint. Also maybe that eve lady from the warbarge could just say " please exit dropship" |
WyrmHero1945
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
43
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Posted - 2013.03.17 02:54:00 -
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Dr Debo Galaxy wrote: Also maybe that eve lady from the warbarge could just say " please exit dropship"
LMFAOOOOOOOOO
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
684
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Posted - 2013.03.17 02:58:00 -
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Dr Debo Galaxy wrote:I never understood why people just sit in the dropship. Whats the fun in that. Maybe instead of GTFO pad there could be a jump light. Kinda the inside of the dropship would have red light flashing so all nongunners could see it. Then maybe they would get the hint. Also maybe that eve lady from the warbarge could just say " please exit dropship" They'd probably just go "ooh pretty lights" and watch them instead |
Mithridates VI
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
336
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Posted - 2013.03.17 03:06:00 -
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That isn't enough matches for the derpship to be considered a factor in the losses. Could very easily be that 70% of the limited number of matches you played would have been lost with or without the ship, especially seeing as you had the type of team that doesn't know to get out over an objective.
Do you think they would have done any better on the ground? |
Nguruthos IX
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
113
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Posted - 2013.03.17 03:22:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:That isn't enough matches for the derpship to be considered a factor in the losses. Could very easily be that 70% of the limited number of matches you played would have been lost with or without the ship, especially seeing as you had the type of team that doesn't know to get out over an objective.
Do you think they would have done any better on the ground?
How could they not do better?
In a DS all they can do is die.
On the ground at least they can maybe get kills. Or be a bullet sponge for other good players but more effectively than in one DS because they'd be spread out with separate HP pools. |
KalOfTheRathi
CowTek
237
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Posted - 2013.03.17 03:50:00 -
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Would you consider supplying some more information?
Do you have a mic?
Did you enable Team Voice?
Did you use it?
Specifically did you instruct the Blues in what to do?
I look forward to expanding on this conversation.
More Explanation from my own experience:
The reason I ask is that when I am doing the Lone Wolf thing I switch to Team Voice and lead the Blues. That simple action gives me a 50% success/failure* rate. Sometimes you are against experienced Corp squads and those odds are definitely stacked against Random Blues.
Example conversation:
Blues, this is Kal Of The Rathi. I am your Tank driver. Your job is to capture Letter Objectives and to keep me alive.
The longer I am alive the more the Reds will obsess about killing me and my Tank and the less they will focus on winning the battle.
If you want to be a Gunner fine but please let those with a mic have first choice. Comm between Driver and Gunners are crucial.
We need a Squad Leader with a mic. Create a Squad, tell myself and my Gunners to join your Squad. Set Defend Order on the Tank. Use Orbital Strikes as soon as possible. Don't worry, we will try to get you another one.
If you want a Supply Depot capture and defend it. If it is Red more than Blue I Will Destroy it. Same goes for CRUs.
Etc., etc., etc.
Adjust as necessary for your particular situation such as explaining the use of the pip for targeting, never fire on a turret unless I Tell you to, how to use a Cycling Missile Turret (Hold down the trigger and don't let up once you have a target) and when you shout Drop or Bail ... do so Immediately.
* success/failure can be subjective as well as objective. Did I find some good Gunners? Did the Squad Leader do their job? Did the Blues start grouping up and capturing Objectives. At the very end of that list is did my Tank survive and did we Win. |
Mithridates VI
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
336
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Posted - 2013.03.17 04:05:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:That isn't enough matches for the derpship to be considered a factor in the losses. Could very easily be that 70% of the limited number of matches you played would have been lost with or without the ship, especially seeing as you had the type of team that doesn't know to get out over an objective.
Do you think they would have done any better on the ground? How could they not do better? In a DS all they can do is die. On the ground at least they can maybe get kills. Or be a bullet sponge for other good players but more effectively than in one DS because they'd be spread out with separate HP pools.
On the ground they can die more than once. If you keep them in your derpship, they might only go down when you and your team is less likely to get cloned. |
Nguruthos IX
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
114
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Posted - 2013.03.17 05:12:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:That isn't enough matches for the derpship to be considered a factor in the losses. Could very easily be that 70% of the limited number of matches you played would have been lost with or without the ship, especially seeing as you had the type of team that doesn't know to get out over an objective.
Do you think they would have done any better on the ground? How could they not do better? In a DS all they can do is die. On the ground at least they can maybe get kills. Or be a bullet sponge for other good players but more effectively than in one DS because they'd be spread out with separate HP pools. On the ground they can die more than once. If you keep them in your derpship, they might only go down when you and your team is less likely to get cloned.
There's something magical about derpships that can transform any type of KD/R player into an eyes glazed over comatose clone.
In all likely hood they'd have at least as good kd/r on the ground as the other teams redberries. Except in a DS they can only die. 7 people in a dropship effectively leaves the game as 7 vs 15 and those 7 left are much worse off to get camped and stomped without even the Illusion of support than they would if everyone was on the ground derping around. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
309
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Posted - 2013.03.17 05:16:00 -
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Thank you for giving me targets to shoot out of dropships. It's like practicing archery on a moving apple tree. Very satisfying. |
Minmatar Slave 74136
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
293
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Posted - 2013.03.17 06:33:00 -
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Sobriety Denied wrote:yea my random gunners are always so busy shooting at nothing they fail to shoot the infantry i line em up with
I never shoot until i have a target |
Judge Rhadamanthus
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
13
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Posted - 2013.03.17 09:07:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:Would you consider supplying some more information?
Do you have a mic?
Did you enable Team Voice?
Did you use it?
Specifically did you instruct the Blues in what to do?
I switched to team in all but two of the matches. Atleast one of the people in the ship had a mic as I could see the mic symbol and it pulsed green every now and then meaning they were making some noise (breathing, button pressing etc)
I tried to keep it as simple as I could.
1) First I asked if they had a destination 2) Then I told them where I was going 3) I told them I would say when we arrived 4) I told them I would say when it was safe to exit
not once did they acknowledge that they heard me. (I did shout really loudly once so I could hear myself feedback through their mic, so I know at least sometimes I was heard) I also typed a message in team chat each round instruction them to exit the DS as it was not being played as a gun-ship
In most cases most of the ship did not have mics active. Often they were in a squad so not in team chat (not the full squad in the ship, just one random guy). The issue may have been one of communication but I susspect not. There is just nogood reason to hang about in a gun slot if the pilot hangs in a safe spot against a building for a few minutes or parks on a roof or is waiting at the start for pickups.
THE big issue is they are filling the ship stopping people from spawning in who might want to try get an objective. In the best match someone may got AFK to help their child or some valid reason. I need to be able to get them out in a fair way. GTFO pads (or a more ccp friendly name of MUAF pads or TDPs- Man Up And Fight or Troop Deployment Pads) get them out in a most likely safe place. a GTFO at spawn leaves them perfectly safe (PS and OS the exception) |
Judge Rhadamanthus
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
13
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Posted - 2013.03.17 09:12:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:That isn't enough matches for the derpship to be considered a factor in the losses. Could very easily be that 70% of the limited number of matches you played would have been lost with or without the ship, especially seeing as you had the type of team that doesn't know to get out over an objective.
Do you think they would have done any better on the ground?
True there are too many factors to consider the CRU ship the deciding factor. But it is hard to see how removing 4 players from acting (5 if you add me) for the duration of the match would not have some negative effect on my teams performance. |
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DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
2077
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Posted - 2013.03.17 10:04:00 -
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I keep a militia dropship with a CRU in it for just this reason. Stupid blueberries don't want to get out, fine? I'll just smash it into the side of a building |
blue gt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.03.17 11:00:00 -
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I would take the boot of god tower sniping DS of yore over what they are now, I mean CCP fixed all the issues with dropships with AV grenades and render distances that don't suck, why they then proceeded to further break DSs is beyond me.
+1 to OP all the way tho I still favor the kick button, I'll take the potential to troll if it means that DS can do their jobs, if it means no one gets in my DS anymore least they are not wasting my teams time. |
Stefan Stahl
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2013.03.17 12:08:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:(I did shout really loudly once so I could hear myself feedback through their mic, so I know at least sometimes I was heard) That cracked me up, real dedication right there.
I actually think some players don't know how to exit vehicles. If I were a straight newbie in this game I surely wouldn't want to spend 5 minutes in a landed dropship shooting a wall. I'd like to get out so I can do something interesting. If I knew how to get out. Otherwise I'd be stuck with only a turret to shoot and no other form of interaction.
That's my theory. |
Skihids
The Tritan Industries
1032
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Posted - 2013.03.17 15:41:00 -
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Stefan Stahl wrote:Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:(I did shout really loudly once so I could hear myself feedback through their mic, so I know at least sometimes I was heard) That cracked me up, real dedication right there. I actually think some players don't know how to exit vehicles. If I were a straight newbie in this game I surely wouldn't want to spend 5 minutes in a landed dropship shooting a wall. I'd like to get out so I can do something interesting. If I knew how to get out. Otherwise I'd be stuck with only a turret to shoot and no other form of interaction. That's my theory.
My very first day playing I spawned into a DS and dint know how to get out, but that isn't last long. I think some new players are just entranced by the view. |
swannee
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
7
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Posted - 2013.03.20 21:31:00 -
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Dr Debo Galaxy wrote:I never understood why people just sit in the dropship. Whats the fun in that. Maybe instead of GTFO pad there could be a jump light. Kinda the inside of the dropship would have red light flashing so all nongunners could see it. Then maybe they would get the hint. Also maybe that eve lady from the warbarge could just say " please exit dropship"
Yeah but most of the time we want the gunners to leave the ship. I rarely fly any more, have proto turrets and all the good stuff...waste of sp, until i can kick out bad gunners and pick up someone that can prioritize between the enemy tank i am hovering over and that random red dot on the opposite side of the map that is even out of range for a Thale's sniper rifle.
On a side note, if you have a worthless gunner that is pissing you off, just go find an enemy sniper and hover in front of him. Either the gunner will die or maybe (just Maybe) he will kill the sniper....either way problem solved. |
Nguruthos IX
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
131
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Posted - 2013.03.20 21:36:00 -
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swannee wrote:Dr Debo Galaxy wrote:I never understood why people just sit in the dropship. Whats the fun in that. Maybe instead of GTFO pad there could be a jump light. Kinda the inside of the dropship would have red light flashing so all nongunners could see it. Then maybe they would get the hint. Also maybe that eve lady from the warbarge could just say " please exit dropship" Yeah but most of the time we want the gunners to leave the ship. I rarely fly any more, have proto turrets and all the good stuff...waste of sp, until i can kick out bad gunners and pick up someone that can prioritize between the enemy tank i am hovering over and that random red dot on the opposite side of the map that is even out of range for a Thale's sniper rifle. On a side note, if you have a worthless gunner that is pissing you off, just go find an enemy sniper and hover in front of him. Either the gunner will die or maybe (just Maybe) he will kill the sniper....either way problem solved.
This is pretty much what I have to resort to. Obviously the game is broken if I have to hover in front of an HMG praying he'll spray my bluetard dead so my million isk DS can stop being an expensive 100% worthless liability. |
BootStrapWill
R.I.f.t
7
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Posted - 2013.04.03 17:28:00 -
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How about instead of a GTFO light, the pilot has access to bay doors, and just drop the kittens (minus gunners that are strapped in) out into the fray? Make it a literal "drop"ship, plus you can drop afk'ers on top of a tank, or in the path of an LAV if they're annoying.
To really screw with someone, you could find a location near the flight ceiling, and find a way to wedge them up there. Above the draw distance for any chance to contribute to the fight.
To clarify, I don't fly yet, still working on skills, but reading about blueberry hitchhikers has me rankled already. |
From Costa Rica
Grupo de Asalto Chacal CRONOS.
74
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Posted - 2013.04.03 23:27:00 -
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CCP take dropships off the game now!!.. or add fighter ships... so people can understand the diference between a dropship and a fighter ship...
I mean, i know its fun to fly inside this flying tank, but the damn thing is expensive you know, if you can-Št shoot then jump and kill people on the ground. |
Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
475
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Posted - 2013.04.03 23:32:00 -
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i think dropships will see much more use once people can shoot out of them.
nothing like a spinning short bus with 4 swarm launchers and 2 missile launchers firing at everything ever.
if it has wheels, treads, or bolts it will be destroyed. |
ca ronic
Moffit Bros
0
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Posted - 2013.04.04 00:05:00 -
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Pilots need a chat where they can put together squads. I started a thread and got some good advice on what we should do when we spawn into a DS. Since then I've been in a dozen or so and only one pilot had a mic. When they do drop me its been someplace high and my AR is useless so I jump down, thats better than spawing into a bunch of red dots though. They fly someplace high and land that way most know to get out, sometime when you are just hovering I''m not sure if you want us to jump or not.
We are also going to need a way to find pilots for Planetary Conquest, good pilots will be a huge plus in those battles. |
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Mithridates VI
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
591
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Posted - 2013.04.04 00:06:00 -
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From Costa Rica wrote:flying tank
Bahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Ha.
Ahaha. |
Spademan
Hydra II-Omega
8
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Posted - 2013.04.04 00:12:00 -
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What if there were some sort of module that could turn the dropship intoa bomber, only instead of bombs, you're actively launching your passengers out of your dropship. So the driver could actually direct where he wants send them, with inertia dampeners activating as soon as they're launched out. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
1029
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Posted - 2013.04.04 02:02:00 -
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ca ronic wrote:Pilots need a chat where they can put together squads. I started a thread and got some good advice on what we should do when we spawn into a DS. Since then I've been in a dozen or so and only one pilot had a mic. When they do drop me its been someplace high and my AR is useless so I jump down, thats better than spawing into a bunch of red dots though. They fly someplace high and land that way most know to get out, sometime when you are just hovering I''m not sure if you want us to jump or not.
We are also going to need a way to find pilots for Planetary Conquest, good pilots will be a huge plus in those battles. There's condor squad, the channels been open for months but our participation levels have dropped recently, its a good place to swing by to chat about dropships. |
Patoman Radiant
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
59
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Posted - 2013.04.04 02:04:00 -
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A kick feature would be great but truely the problem is that teams are full of blueberrys, if you didn't pilot the dropship you could have used a suit or tank to get kills to carry the team.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1164
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Posted - 2013.04.04 02:08:00 -
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I feel your pain, but keep in mind the smart people who jump out also have problems.
Because of my position standing in a dropship, I couldn't see what it was hovering above (big thing to consider). Since it was hovering, I figured the pilot wanted me to jump out, so I did. What happened? Well, I landed on top of a building, DIRECTLY in front of the barrel of an enemy blaster turret. Turns out the ship was shooting at the huge swarm of reds I jumped into, but I couldn't see them (even on radar) |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
1029
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Posted - 2013.04.04 02:15:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I feel your pain, but keep in mind the smart people who jump out also have problems.
Because of my position standing in a dropship, I couldn't see what it was hovering above (big thing to consider). Since it was hovering, I figured the pilot wanted me to jump out, so I did. What happened? Well, I landed on top of a building, DIRECTLY in front of the barrel of an enemy blaster turret. Turns out the ship was shooting at the huge swarm of reds I jumped into, but I couldn't see them (even on radar) If your pilots initials were BTM he needs to get a mic so he can tell people when to jump, and pilots really need to get a way of talking to our passengers assuming their not in our squad. |
Wako 75
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
77
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Posted - 2013.04.04 03:55:00 -
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i was thinking maybe a launch button for ds pilot that would initiate a countdown from 5 and x will be abort launch for the people sitting in or maybe a time limit on how long you have before jumping out this gunners exempt of course would cause douches to sit in redline killing freindlies. who knows maybe 5 points if you drop them in a zone around an objective incentive to get into the heat.
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Dante Vento
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries
0
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Posted - 2013.04.04 04:23:00 -
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As a dropship gunner I haven't seen many good dropship pilots, other than my corpmates. Most of the time they run into a building or small hill and die. The rest just use them to get themselves up onto buildings to snipe or are shot down within 5 seconds. So flying with/under someone with actual skill would be a relief.
Keeping ignorant blueberries out of our combat dropships can be quite difficult and any means to forcefully remove them would be gladly welcomed!
As for your comment that a CRU on a DS causes the team to loose, I agree with you. Any dropship which is not in contact with it's occupants, gunners or passengers, is simply a liability. Further more, dropships with a blueberry for a pilot are liabilities too as they only induce an AV fever amongst the cherries making it difficult for the real dropships to get their job done.
If you're ever in need of air or artillery support The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries have skilled pilots with gunnery crews and tankers who would be glad to assist.....for a small fee, of course. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1165
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Posted - 2013.04.04 23:11:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I feel your pain, but keep in mind the smart people who jump out also have problems.
Because of my position standing in a dropship, I couldn't see what it was hovering above (big thing to consider). Since it was hovering, I figured the pilot wanted me to jump out, so I did. What happened? Well, I landed on top of a building, DIRECTLY in front of the barrel of an enemy blaster turret. Turns out the ship was shooting at the huge swarm of reds I jumped into, but I couldn't see them (even on radar) If your pilots initials were BTM he needs to get a mic so he can tell people when to jump, and pilots really need to get a way of talking to our passengers assuming their not in our squad. It was some random guy with 2 gunners who picked me up. I had my sniper fit, but I didn't want to be that ******* that ignores the ship in front of them. |
Zekain Kade
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1153
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Posted - 2013.04.04 23:19:00 -
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There's one major problem that probably stops people from jumping out of drop ships. I'm not sure if its just me. But when I'm a passenger in a drop ship, my mini Mao ceases to function properly, so I can't actually see where the objective are. |
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AEthis Badbaby
Destruction Initiative Enterprise
0
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Posted - 2013.04.22 01:41:00 -
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gbghg wrote:There's condor squad, the channels been open for months but our participation levels have dropped recently, its a good place to swing by to chat about dropships.
Truth.. Tried past two days to get DS squad going on condor and only one taker. I commend the organization of mercs rallying around the dropship dream on the forums but I'd be interested in seeing the fervor shift into the game. A good matchup channel is a must for developing gunner and pilot skills and a consistent following is going to spring from mercs that can count on a channel that makes squads. Not sure if most DS crews are internalized by corps already but even then to me the number of pilots/gunners interested in either the future of aerial combat or simply finding a crew outnumbers any DS action I've seen, even at peak hours. |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
154
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Posted - 2013.04.22 03:27:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:Delirium Inferno wrote:I've had the opposite experience as you, my CRU dropship usually helps win matches. Of course I'm using my mic and switching to the team chat channel telling people to jump out. Tried it. Silence. Of course these are the results from 14 matches with a 70% loss ratio. By no means fully representative of gameplay as a whole. Also with people in squad chat, they often can't hear me anyway.
DS will probably have more use may 6th when we have 16v16 corp battles. One good pilot can move an entire squad from point A to B in seconds, and if there in your corp they shouldn't have any objections to jumping out. Not to mention the scenarios were a DS could evacuate people quickly if an area is getting overwhelmed. I cant wait to see gameplay with that sort of thing happening. |
Martin0 Brancaleone
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
235
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Posted - 2013.04.22 07:35:00 -
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[quote=Marston VC Not to mention the scenarios were a DS could evacuate people quickly if an area is getting overwhelmed. I cant wait to see gameplay with that sort of thing happening. [/quote]
I tried to do this twice. Bot time i touched a rock and the dropship explosive paint killed me. I REALLY hope dropships get some love on may 6. |
Lazy Scumbag
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.04.22 12:07:00 -
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Dropships need ejector seats. Turning chat on by default would help, but a way to signal local players similar to squad leader commands would be helpful. I've wasted enough ISK on dropships to last me awhile. Most players won't even get on, since it costs way too much to keep from getting one-shotted. |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
1139
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Posted - 2013.05.15 19:08:00 -
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AEthis Badbaby wrote:gbghg wrote:There's condor squad, the channels been open for months but our participation levels have dropped recently, its a good place to swing by to chat about dropships. Truth.. Tried past two days to get DS squad going on condor and only one taker. I commend the organization of mercs rallying around the dropship dream on the forums but I'd be interested in seeing the fervor shift into the game. A good matchup channel is a must for developing gunner and pilot skills and a consistent following is going to spring from mercs that can count on a channel that makes squads. Not sure if most DS crews are internalized by corps already but even then to me the number of pilots/gunners interested in either the future of aerial combat or simply finding a crew outnumbers any DS action I've seen, even at peak hours. I'm trying to get Condor Squad some more momentum now. My corporate management issues have been alleviated due to new mechanics so I want to get out and fly as much as possible! |
Sir Snugglz
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.15 19:32:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote: I'm trying to get Condor Squad some more momentum now. My corporate management issues have been alleviated due to new mechanics so I want to get out and fly as much as possible!
I am down to bring it back. Its so hard to find good gunners and such. |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.05.15 19:39:00 -
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Dr Debo Galaxy wrote:I never understood why people just sit in the dropship. Whats the fun in that. Maybe instead of GTFO pad there could be a jump light. Kinda the inside of the dropship would have red light flashing so all nongunners could see it. Then maybe they would get the hint. Also maybe that eve lady from the warbarge could just say " please exit dropship"
No, no, no
A voice over of Samuel L Jackson should play in which he says.
"I've had it with these motherfucking noobs on this goddamn dropship!"
Then all of them get thrown out. |
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