I dont believe that FF will ever be applied into pub matches. It will be applied into corp battles and other game modes with meaning.

If we do implement friendly fire it will only be on corporation matches, not instant battles. At least to begin with. In those battles the expectation is that players are of a higher caliber quality and are able to work together.

If we do implement friendly fire it will only be on corporation matches, not instant battles. At least to begin with. In those battles the expectation is that players are of a higher caliber quality and are able to work together.

Well that is a little weak, isn't dust all about 'htfu' and 'welcome to new eden' ?

This is the smart way to do it, thanks.
But it must also keep track of who kills who on the same team as well.

And I'd recommend there being some sort of permanent log. Because scrolling text is too fast and if say, moron corp member X decides to forge gun a teammates dropship, only with a post combat log could that player be held accountable. There's too much confusion during fights, some guns don't leave much a tracer, and determining who the team troll is would be impossible.

This log would also have to register hits and not just killing blows.

If we do implement friendly fire it will only be on corporation matches, not instant battles. At least to begin with. In those battles the expectation is that players are of a higher caliber quality and are able to work together.

I would imagine that is why having FF in corp battles makes sense in New Eden, a saboteur would be able to do some major damage. And if they were sly about it, nobody would suspect them.

FF in pub matches would be lame, but in corp matches it makes sense. Not only does it force the players to think before they use an orbital, or start spraying bullets/whatever all over the place, but it opens up other devious possibilities that New Eden is known best for.

If we do implement friendly fire it will only be on corporation matches, not instant battles. At least to begin with. In those battles the expectation is that players are of a higher caliber quality and are able to work together.

have to agree with Bassmeant there. I sure hope FoxFour doesnt speak for all of CCP. Adding FF is simple and necessary. its all about deterring people from shooting teammates for no reason by making the penalties significant. we addressed it here: http://tinyurl.com/chzvsxt

a world where MD spam and orbital strikes still dont affect friendlies? no thank you very much.

You trying to say pub players are a bunch of nubs? Awesome even CCP agrees.

You trying to say pub players are a bunch of nubs? Awesome even CCP agrees.

To be clear oh god no I don't speak for all of CCP, especially when talking about things that are not out yet or even announced.

With the game being free to play and instant battles not having and risk to them, at least not a guaranteed risk only what you want to risk, adding friendly fire to them presents a massive griefing opportunity and also a much steeper learning curve.

We have already announced that we are making changes to FW battles and to corporation battles. Corporation battles should indeed have friendly fire. If we get it to the point where people always have corporation battles available, instead of as they are right now where you have just one or two randomly around, then it becomes the players choice as to what level of gameplay they want to experience. The lower level nature of instant battles or the top tier nature of corporation battles.

Why sis friendly fire required in instant battles?

I read that link and saw nothing describing why friendly fire would be required in instant battles.

Im fine with it as long as they have an auto-kick for excessive TK.

Define excessive.... you know, you would be surprised how eager some blues are to run in front of my burst HMG. Can't exactly stop the thing, either...

"f we do implement friendly fire it will only be on corporation matches, not instant battles"


well, that's that then.

i thought ccp was going to make a real game.

not a kids game.

oh well... mag on!

Peace
B

You trying to say pub players are a bunch of nubs? Awesome even CCP agrees.

If FF comes to public matches and im about to loose a skirmish cause we have 8 snipers in the redline sitting then i will get a shotgun, a LAV and do some patrolling on the borderline. And teach them what i think about the so called "learning curve". Snipers you have beeing warned.

Well that is a little weak, isn't dust all about 'htfu' and 'welcome to new eden' ?

As long as there are no Americans in your team you'll be fine.\

or al qaeda

You trying to say pub players are a bunch of nubs? Awesome even CCP agrees.

Pub matches is anarchy trying to take a null cannon. Imagine friendly fire deaths would go up especially because im a heavy and I go into the room where they are and clear them out while my blueberry team throws in sissy grenades futilely.


Thats how nubby pub players are. unfortunately they are my only way to earn money.

Im fine with it as long as they have an auto-kick for excessive TK.

Same same

As an American and servicewoman of the armed forces I terribly resent that remark. Whatever my opinion is or that of my fellow countrymen is not up for debate. I lost friends in that conflict doing what they signed up to do. You sir have been reported.

I am fine with no FF in pug games. Better to keep things simple and focus on corp match play and balance first. Sounds like this next update will be big enough as it is, no need to have too many plates spinning. we will have enough stuff to try and balance as is.

Why would there be backstabbing in a public match? There is nothing to be gained by it.

FF in a public match with a bunch of new players in militia gear would serve what purpose? What could you possibly stand to gain from betraying your team when the rewards are the same whether you win or lose?

If we do implement friendly fire it will only be on corporation matches, not instant battles. At least to begin with. In those battles the expectation is that players are of a higher caliber quality and are able to work together.

Why sis friendly fire required in instant battles?

I read that link and saw nothing describing why friendly fire would be required in instant battles.

You are kidding right? Haha, good one.
Seriously you are kidding, right? I don't believe that a DEV for game such as Dust what would even consider asking that question.

But just in cause you aren't: 3 answers:
Grenade spam
Massdriver spam
Indiscriminate orbital strike targetting