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2-Ton Twenty-One
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.03.14 18:07:00 -
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I am fine with no FF in pug games. Better to keep things simple and focus on corp match play and balance first. Sounds like this next update will be big enough as it is, no need to have too many plates spinning. we will have enough stuff to try and balance as is. |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
452
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Posted - 2013.03.14 19:54:00 -
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2-Ton Twenty-One wrote:I am fine with no FF in pug games. Better to keep things simple and focus on corp match play and balance first. Sounds like this next update will be big enough as it is, no need to have too many plates spinning. we will have enough stuff to try and balance as is.
QFT. It's going to be a helluva ride and a complete zoo out there for a while.
And it's a first in the history of gaming. We're the scouts CCP is throwing into the wilderness.
I hear the pay is good, but you end up spending it at the company store.
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GetShotUp
Arrogance.
89
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Posted - 2013.03.14 21:31:00 -
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Yeah, leave that **** in corp battles or even better, leave that **** out of this game. Anyone played COD 3? Run a medic class, kill a ************ you disliked and revive him to kill him again until he manages to bleed out.
I can bring myself to accept FF in corp battles but if you guys bring it in public matches, you'll regret it. At least make it as to where YOU die instead of the teammate you shot as a penalty. Kick them after 3 times.
I just don't even want to think about FF. Ill enjoy this game for now until than. |
BASSMEANT
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
161
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Posted - 2013.03.20 12:12:00 -
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then make 2 separate leaderboards:
FF off board
FF on board
stats go to the board for the mode you play most.
so we can at least separate the "good" players from the good players.
anyone in the FF off mode needs an asterisk by their stats.
cuz they are fake. the stats i mean.
well i guess so is the gamer, too.
Peace
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Captain-Awesome
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.03.20 13:19:00 -
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can't wait for friendly fire so I can team kill those noobs stealing the ******* CRUs! They are meant for camping! |
victor coolbreeze
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.03.20 15:38:00 -
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Friendly fire would be a major game break.. as we all know there are people in corps who belong to other corps. it would be easy for them to kill off team mates to help out the other corp. can you imagine the havic one or two squads would cause to a defending or attacking corp. if they were paid off or belong to the other corp and being given isk and equipment to kill off their team mates to win the battle..
Or by people who get mad because they are not good enough to get kills so start killing team mates.. its already been said people will kill off snipers because they think they are not productive, because they are not capturing objectives..
if someone wants to snipe that's up to them not other players to decide. as for
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CheifSlapaNigg
UnReaL.
1
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Posted - 2013.03.20 16:02:00 -
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They should only have friendly fire on in corp battles because you are plying as a corp so if you kill your corp member tht is ur fault. |
General John Ripper
Killshot Corp
114
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Posted - 2013.03.20 16:04:00 -
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I am going to join a bunch of random corps with my alts and infiltrate their corp matches.
My plan is to time myself each time I do this so I can try to improve my technique. |
Anax 01
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2013.03.20 17:22:00 -
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Fraceska wrote:Why would there be backstabbing in a public match? There is nothing to be gained by it.
Nothing but lulz you mean. Just take a stroll through the forums and read the various threads made by people who brag about being able to teamkill, even though FF is disabled. Someone the other day was bragging that they managed to hijack a team dropship, crashed it on some building and crushed teammates with it. I can already see the griefers' trollgrins and if they were any bigger their heads would fall off ...
Fraceska wrote:FF in a public match with a bunch of new players in militia gear would serve what purpose? What could you possibly stand to gain from betraying your team when the rewards are the same whether you win or lose?
Aside from the griefers you've got deranged paladins going on a crusade, killing snipers when they're about to lose a Skirimish game. Some people spawn as snipers when they're about to lose, so as to farm some last minute kill WPs, whereas others are dedicated snipers. I'm one of those dedicated sniper and I'm not even that good (rarely score above 10/0), having had very little experience with FPS games (mostly Borderlands) and practically zero online FPS experience before Dust 514. I'm a total noob. Do I want random angry teammates killing me, because they are offended by my existence? No. Kitten no!
Friendly fire makes perfect sense the way Dust Blog talks about it and I admit that I too would have to be very careful sniping 600-700 meters in the thick of firefight, so as not to kill my own team. I've saved teammates from getting killed from behind by someone at 600m a few times, but a few times I've missed and hit my own teammate instead. FF would force me to be way more careful and it sounds awesome for Corporate battles, because of everything everyone's said about New Eden etc. If it were to be implemented in instant battles though, I'd like to know that the griefer who walked up to me and shotgunned me in the face paid a big price for the enjoyment of teamkilling me. Proportionally bigger for kittens who'd destroy tanks and dropships for the lulz.
No lulz for pub game teamkilling griefers. |
Xender17
Oblivion S.G.X
15
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Posted - 2013.03.20 17:30:00 -
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If the penalties not big... ur gonna wanna stay a couple of feet from me  |
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Ademis Kalel
WarRavens
4
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Posted - 2013.03.20 17:33:00 -
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Mommy's and Daddy's should take the controller away from little billy when they TK. FF is going to be the best indication of seperating the COD (generic anyone can play a FPS) from the skillfull players of an age that was long ago. |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
242
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Posted - 2013.03.20 17:44:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:If we do implement friendly fire it will only be on corporation matches, not instant battles. At least to begin with. In those battles the expectation is that players are of a higher caliber quality and are able to work together.
clearly you have too much faith in FPS players |
Synner Zerg
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
3
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Posted - 2013.03.20 18:31:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:
Why sis friendly fire required in instant battles?
I read that link and saw nothing describing why friendly fire would be required in instant battles.
You are kidding right? Haha, good one.
Seriously you are kidding, right? I don't believe that a DEV for game such as Dust what would even consider asking that question.
But just in cause you aren't: 3 answers:
Grenade spam
Massdriver spam
Indiscriminate orbital strike targetting
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
523
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Posted - 2013.03.20 18:39:00 -
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Synner Zerg wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:
Why sis friendly fire required in instant battles?
I read that link and saw nothing describing why friendly fire would be required in instant battles.
You are kidding right? Haha, good one. Seriously you are kidding, right? I don't believe that a DEV for game such as Dust what would even consider asking that question. But just in cause you aren't: 3 answers: Grenade spam Massdriver spam Indiscriminate orbital strike targetting
And why does any of that matter in instant battles again? |
BASSMEANT
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
162
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Posted - 2013.03.21 11:33:00 -
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"Why sis friendly fire required in instant battles?"
see this is why these folks shouldn't be devving this game:
1. because if it's not in and you keep stats, your stats are all fake and your game is a stupid kids game. i'll go find the pre beta interviews where your devs said specifically they were NOT making a typical codboi kids game and that everything about 514 would be different. it's not. FF off proves that.
2. you have fooled more then half these players into thinking they are doing well at 514. if you put in FF then REALITY sets in and suddenly all these "beast" players will find out that without FF off, their scores are way more average or below average then they currently are. and you keep stats about this crap? half of their kills would be blue on blue and the penalty for that would knock your bs leadewrboards to pieces in a week.
3. with no FF, there is no reason to play well. you just spam some nads and bullets at the cluster and hope for some kill asists or some finishing kills. oh yeah... drop the orbital and we can all run straight into it? GTFO with that crap.
4. it is a LEGIT tactic when you are stuck on a team with some halfassers to let em have it. if you have a good alamo set up and some nerd thinks she is gonna run in and hack the cru, they deserve to be tkd, because they are an idiotl. if you have 3 or 5 snipers camped out behind the redline and you have no flags, hell yeah they should be tkd. if someone jumps in your vehicle and you happen to run into em later in the match, hell yeah they deserve to be tkd. if you have some moron who doesn't understand how screening works or that all this bunny hopping and running around like toddlers is crappy gameplay and the guy steps in front of a heavy who is on full auto, the guy deserves to be tkd.
the reason you guys are scared of tk is because you aren't as good as you think you are and FF on will prove that fast as hell.
Peace
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