Not scared dude I'm not the one hiding in a tin can with 3000+ armor because I can't fight toe to toe with anyone

I'd love to see you bunch of tankers try fighting on the ground without a tank

from that linked thread:



If you spend 4mil SP on HAV skills, you get a return on it. This idiot thinking is akin to "Hey, sniper! Why don't you stand in front of my HMG like a man?"

I don't hate Tanks... I "Nothing" them. I see one, i run away to the other side of the map.

And to be honest, you never see any tanks defending a key objective, or supporting the Infantry in a hot zone. They hang around at the ages of the map, or they do quick hit and run tactics, because they are scare of losing their expensive machine.

I call BS. In Skirmish they aren't too bad, but tanks dictate the flow of the match in Ambush, simply because of how small the map is, and the lack of objectives.

Tanks force you to do one of 3 things in Ambush:

-Retreat, lose positioning on a small map, and risk being pincered.
-Dedicate a squad just to make one retreat (assuming the tank user isn't stupid)
-Die horribly

This is compounded by the fact that a majority of Ambush players barely know how to deal with Infantry, much less a tank. Add on Orbitals to kill off any momentum the opposition may gain for the lols.

You may not see it, but I often spearhead the attack on objectives, my tank causes half the enemy team to grab swarm launchers and its CRU allows my team to spawn in my tank and take the objectives i clear, If im running around the edges or hiding its because the enemy teams AV is effective and I need to hit and run or support infantry from the rear, its not retreating its advancing in another direction.

And to be honest, you never see any tanks defending a key objective, or supporting the Infantry in a hot zone. They hang around at the ages of the map, or they do quick hit and run tactics, because they are scare of losing their expensive machine.

You may not see it, but I often spearhead the attack on objectives, my tank causes half the enemy team to grab swarm launchers and its CRU allows my team to spawn in my tank and take the objectives i clear, If im running around the edges or hiding its because the enemy teams AV is effective and I need to hit and run or support infantry from the rear, its not retreating its advancing in another direction.

Not my play stile as a tank driver, not what I have observed the majority of other tank drivers. Therefore I am forced to draw tow conclusions:

1. You are not very observent
2. You have begun to believe a set of lies you have concocted in order to inflate your ego.

Could be a combination of the two as well, or you also could simply be lieing.

Not my play stile as a tank driver, not what I have observed from the majority of other tank drivers. Therefore I am forced to draw two conclusions:

1. You are not very observent, or simply know cery little to nothing about the tactics involved in keeping a tank alive.
2. You have begun to believe a set of lies you have concocted in order to inflate your ego.

Could be a combination of the two as well, or you also could simply be lieing.

Ignorance.

That and not having a good AV Fit.

I quite enjoy killing tanks in ambushes... Expensive well fit tanks... Singlehandedly a good deal of the time. There is nothing more satisfying in this game IMO.

Once again I am baffled by this line of reasoning

Don't care how good you are, you're not soloing competent tank users(as you shouldn't, because they're tanks).

Tanks deny a wide area in such a small map, and force you to use equipment that are useless against the standard infantry to maintain that area, which means you need cover fire, and you also risk being overrun by organized squads while dealing with them. Since the objective to to kill the opposition, this provides a massive advantage to one side assuming both teams are equally skilled, but you also have to take into consideration alot of the players you're partnered up with in Ambush simply don't know how to handle them(I'm not the best player, but it's not rare to see people shooting at shielded, healthy tanks with ARs). All you can do is retreat to a safe place and watch them die until the reserves are depleted.

Then you're calling me a lier, is that it?

So then a truly competent tank driver would be one that has never lost a tank. And it is impossible to take out an "expesive, well fit" tank singlehandedly. And all well fit tanks have competent drivers. And competent drivers never make mistakes or bite off more than they can chew, or happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Just making sure I've got this all right. I'm taking notes.

Proxy, proxy, proxy. AV nade, AV nade, AV nade. Swarm, Swarm.

And that's how it's done.

I've actually soloed well fit shield tanks with nothing but flux nades and a massdriver. The most important thing involved in soloing tanks is to have a well thought out plan, and to make proper use of the environment, and know when and when not to strike. You can pick a lot of this up from fist hand experience as a driver.

I never said competent tank users would never lose a tank. Competent tank users don't get solo'd by a lone intrantry unit . Competent tank users will either kill you, retreat to cover from the team, or at the very least drive away until their shields come back up. If you're soloing a "well fit shield tank", then the tank users weren't competent.

if you'r hated on you'r doing it right

People expect to run in front of a tank and escape without a scratch.

Most of my kills in a tank come from infantry either;

1. Shooting me with an AR
2. Running in front of me

What I do when a tank is coming my way is I find the nearest cover and hide until it passes. Then I swtich out to my AV fit and attack it.

Tanks are not OP.

I am a "skilled" tank driver (though I do not drive tanks all the time)

I am a skilled AV user (though I do not run around with AV all game)

Mostly I play as infantry (heavily skilled into sidearms, lightly skilled into massdrivers and lasers)

As an AV player:

I very rarely feel on uneven ground verses tanks.

As an infantry player:

I am smart enough to AVOID being killed by tanks the vast majority of the time.

I see the mentality of a lot of tank haters to be along the lines of this:



The above quote was taken from here:

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=63544&find=unread

Its a tank (come on man think about it) it's supposed to elicit fear in the hearts and minds of everyone else on the battlefield. IT'S A TANK! You might want to think about running away as fast as you can now.

I would much rather be playing a game with big, bad, scary tanks in it than without them (and if you think the tanks are big bad and scary now be thankful you didn't play during the missile crisis)

I love tanks, as a driver and infantry. It lends a great deal of diversity to necessary play stile to the battlefield.-á

I do not think that tanks are unbalenced at this point.

So, what the hell is the deal here? It makes very little since to me.-á

Why all the tank hate?