Wouldn't blaster tanks be able to 1 shot them then? They'd be invincible!

It would be hard to drop a whole swarm before they hit, but it would be a good way for your gunners to support your retreat when you need to fall back. They'd probably be able to get 2 or 3 of them before they landed, 4 if they are really good gunners. This would increase the need for people having to plan when and where they fire off a volley. It would help dropships and specced up LAV's too.

So... do swarms also get free fire back?

No... probably not. But I'm sure we could come up with SOME kind of gentle buff to make it worthwhile for swarm users.

I introduced this idea months ago (back in September actually) while I was still on my very first Dust toon, but I think it's time to bring it back up. Vehicle drivers don't like swarms becaus there's a free one, they track, they require no skill, they do too much damage, on and on and on. I don't agree with them, I really don't. But that's because I see swarms from the infantry side of the equation. So, why don't we give swarms a hit box, give them about 70 HP, and let people shoot them out of the air for like 15~25 SP? It would give teammates a means of helping out tankers, it would prevent the need for swarm nerfs (since tankers and their gunners could shoot them down too), and might even allow for a swarm buff depending on how well shooting them down works.

Just an old idea that I felt might be fun to reintroduce.

lolz, you know what's goin on here. It is a great idea though, and as I said good gunners could assist the dropships as well by shooting them down. Also, I'm sure the pilot would get some sort of assist points for it.

While it would be yseful for dropshipp's and LAV's it might be a little op for blaster tanks, in fact stick two blaster tanks near each other and they would be effectively invunerable

I'd perfer a module that shoots down a certain number of swarms per level, since completely removing a form of Av's viability is a terrible idea. I'm thinking have the module shoot 2 missiles down at standard and 1 more at every other tier.

But with a max mod you are thereby making a proto swarm automatically worse than a militia would be without that mod. If you simply allow swarms to be shot down, then flanking to a vehicles blind side or getting close enough to prevent all of the swarms from being shot down will still give you full damage with your swarm. It doesn't negate the swarm launcher, it makes you have to use it more intelligently.

It does negate the swarm launcher, do you have any idea how slow they are? Imagine having your turret have it's own hp bar which is much lower than the rest of your Hav and getting it destroyed

Really good idea cos it's gonna be hard to hit the misslies anyway without spraying as many bullets as possible so wouldn't be unfair to swarm launcher users since if people are shooting your missles then you can use them as diversions perhaps? every bullet shot at missles would be one less bullet shooting at your team. So I agree with your idea! tis a good one!

In your scenario my damage can be completely negated without you having to make any sort of sacrifice because your whole team can do so.

The fact that it doesn't have to be you who takes their time to save themselves, all of my potential damage can be negated, and you sacrifice only a bit of time makes this a bad idea

The fact that it doesn't have to be you who takes their time to save themselves, all of my potential damage can be negated, and you sacrifice only a bit of time makes this a bad idea

It makes the swarm more of a support weapon, but it does not negate it. Especially if you buff them to compensate. Also, if you read up through the thread a bit, it's mentioned that you could double the missile count and half the damage of each missile, thus making it harder to hit them all.