DUST Search - All Ambush is now, is just tank warfare

Mr Zitro wrote:

Derek Barnes wrote:

Mr Zitro wrote:

Derek Barnes wrote:

Mr Zitro wrote:

Tanks are easy to kill, make a squad and try to adapt. If you want tank fits and av fits go get my book

We are still at the point of the beta where everyone's specializing in different weapons and equipment. Not everyone has strong AV as one another. A squad of 4 using militia or standard AV gear is not going to kill a heavy shielded/armored tank especially when most of the time the same team has multiple tanks practically guarding each other out on a small Ambush map. I do destroy a lot of tanks in Ambush, but those are the guys thinking they are tankers.

Ok let me explain something very simple, the solution to vehicle is av nade spam.

Why cause even basic av nades have a higher dps than most SL and FG. Get a squad of 4 people they don't even have to be good. All they have to do is spam 1 button and throw nanohives.

Examples of classes: normal AR or whatever you use plus av nades(if you don't have a nanohive on a ground class you have bigger problems than tanks). This can easily kill an armor tank with 2-3 throws (AS a squad not solo)

For a shield tank on or two guys have standard flux. Combine the flux plus av nades and that's a dead shield tank. Remember do this as a squad. If you are not heavily spec into av you CAN NOT Rambo a well fit tank.

Now please learn how to play this game efficiently so I don't have to explain how to kill one of my tanks.
It is pretty sad how dumb the average dust player is.

Actually grenade spamming is how I kill the weaker tanks, your explain solves nothing unless its a brain dead tank driver that just sits in one spot without moving around the map. The tanks that sit still are the tanks that I call weak tanks, which are the ones I grenade spam. You're the one that doesn't sound like you know what you are talking about. Which you're the guy that's always in the tank, so that explains why.

Sorry I'm not in the mood to talk with an idiot, you joined Zion. That is why you suck at something so simple as killing a tank. Enjoy and learn to adapt

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Derek Barnes ZionTCD Legacy Rising 350	Posted - 2013.03.12 01:43:00 - [1] - Quote Every Ambush match I get into now, there are Gunnlogis, Madrugars, or on some occasions Sagaris'. Usually I'm on the team with the better tank(s), but they still clear the field of enemies before anyone does much. I think it's only going to get worse from here on out. Or am I just having very bad luck finding ambush or OMS matches?
Spy Mouse New Eden Space Pirates 9	Posted - 2013.03.12 01:55:00 - [2] - Quote I occasionally bring a Gunnlogi to an ambush but only to fight the enemy tanks.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1105	Posted - 2013.03.12 02:01:00 - [3] - Quote Why do you think I only play ambush when I can't get into a skirmish? It's always a clusterfuck of scrubs with ARs, and tanks that shouldn't be in pub matches
Stryker Battalion Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2013.03.12 02:03:00 - [4] - Quote I think there are two primary reasons. One obvious the other not as much. 1) Like the rest of us tankers are trying to max SP and ISK gains after cap 2) Orbital Bombardments have chased HAV drivers out of Skirmish since an opposing team has more means and time to get WP. OB's being insta-death and a big loss of ISK to anything but a high end or well built armor HAV. Just my take.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 31	Posted - 2013.03.12 02:11:00 - [5] - Quote if i'm in a squad we exclusively use our ob's on tanks. only meaningful thing to do in beta left is blow up tanks.
Mr Zitro Imperfects Negative-Feedback 447	Posted - 2013.03.12 02:19:00 - [6] - Quote Tanks are easy to kill, make a squad and try to adapt. If you want tank fits and av fits go get my book
Derek Barnes ZionTCD Legacy Rising 353	Posted - 2013.03.12 02:35:00 - [7] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Tanks are easy to kill, make a squad and try to adapt. If you want tank fits and av fits go get my book We are still at the point of the beta where everyone's specializing in different weapons and equipment. Not everyone has strong AV as one another. A squad of 4 using militia or standard AV gear is not going to kill a heavy shielded/armored tank especially when most of the time the same team has multiple tanks practically guarding each other out on a small Ambush map. I do destroy a lot of tanks in Ambush, but those are the guys thinking they are tankers.
4447 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 688	Posted - 2013.03.12 02:53:00 - [8] - Quote Tank, Also called the god weapon... every map on dust is built for this beast, Even ambush At this point of time killing tanks makes you no money
Mr Zitro Imperfects Negative-Feedback 447	Posted - 2013.03.12 03:13:00 - [9] - Quote Derek Barnes wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Tanks are easy to kill, make a squad and try to adapt. If you want tank fits and av fits go get my book We are still at the point of the beta where everyone's specializing in different weapons and equipment. Not everyone has strong AV as one another. A squad of 4 using militia or standard AV gear is not going to kill a heavy shielded/armored tank especially when most of the time the same team has multiple tanks practically guarding each other out on a small Ambush map. I do destroy a lot of tanks in Ambush, but those are the guys thinking they are tankers. Ok let me explain something very simple, the solution to vehicle is av spam. Why cause even basic av nades have a higher dps than most SL and FG. Get a squad of 4 people they don't even have to be good. All they have to do is spam 1 button and throw nanohives. Examples of classes: normal AR or whatever you use plus av nades(if you don't have a nanohive on a ground class you have bigger problems than tanks). This can easily kill an armor tank with 2-3 throws (AS a squad not solo) For a shield tank on or two guys have standard flux. Combine the flux plus av nades and that's a dead shield tank. Remember do this as a squad. If you are not heavily spec into av you CAN NOT Rambo a well fit tank. Now please learn how to play this game efficiently so I don't have to explain how to kill one of my tanks.
Medic 1879 Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 8	Posted - 2013.03.12 03:18:00 - [10] - Quote Yeah I played ambush yesterday saw a tank lobbed a few av nade at it dropped a nanohive lobbed a few more died to the tank and noticed my "backup" had took the wise and brave decision to leg it thanks pubs, Played in a squad tank rolls up I flux its shields heavies take it down with fg. Remember folks tanks die to team work and drunken rdv drones only.

Icy Tiger Universal Allies Inc. 1082	Posted - 2013.03.12 03:18:00 - [11] - Quote 4447 wrote: Tank, Also called the god weapon... every map on dust is built for this beast, Even ambush At this point of time killing tanks makes you no money Start using a tank, and you realize it takes time and effort to get the perfect build, not to mention the ridiculous amounts of ISK you blow. Also, tanks are completely vulnerable now, 1 organized squad can make short work of them. Do you even life?
Derek Barnes ZionTCD Legacy Rising 354	Posted - 2013.03.12 03:30:00 - [12] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Derek Barnes wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Tanks are easy to kill, make a squad and try to adapt. If you want tank fits and av fits go get my book We are still at the point of the beta where everyone's specializing in different weapons and equipment. Not everyone has strong AV as one another. A squad of 4 using militia or standard AV gear is not going to kill a heavy shielded/armored tank especially when most of the time the same team has multiple tanks practically guarding each other out on a small Ambush map. I do destroy a lot of tanks in Ambush, but those are the guys thinking they are tankers. Ok let me explain something very simple, the solution to vehicle is av nade spam. Why cause even basic av nades have a higher dps than most SL and FG. Get a squad of 4 people they don't even have to be good. All they have to do is spam 1 button and throw nanohives. Examples of classes: normal AR or whatever you use plus av nades(if you don't have a nanohive on a ground class you have bigger problems than tanks). This can easily kill an armor tank with 2-3 throws (AS a squad not solo) For a shield tank on or two guys have standard flux. Combine the flux plus av nades and that's a dead shield tank. Remember do this as a squad. If you are not heavily spec into av you CAN NOT Rambo a well fit tank. Now please learn how to play this game efficiently so I don't have to explain how to kill one of my tanks. It is pretty sad how dumb the average dust player is. Actually grenade spamming is how I kill the weaker tanks, your explain solves nothing unless its a brain dead tank driver that just sits in one spot without moving around the map. The tanks that sit still are the tanks that I call weak tanks, which are the ones I grenade spam. You're the one that doesn't sound like you know what you are talking about. Which you're the guy that's always in the tank, so that explains why.
Mr Zitro Imperfects Negative-Feedback 447	Posted - 2013.03.12 03:33:00 - [13] - Quote Derek Barnes wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Derek Barnes wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Tanks are easy to kill, make a squad and try to adapt. If you want tank fits and av fits go get my book We are still at the point of the beta where everyone's specializing in different weapons and equipment. Not everyone has strong AV as one another. A squad of 4 using militia or standard AV gear is not going to kill a heavy shielded/armored tank especially when most of the time the same team has multiple tanks practically guarding each other out on a small Ambush map. I do destroy a lot of tanks in Ambush, but those are the guys thinking they are tankers. Ok let me explain something very simple, the solution to vehicle is av nade spam. Why cause even basic av nades have a higher dps than most SL and FG. Get a squad of 4 people they don't even have to be good. All they have to do is spam 1 button and throw nanohives. Examples of classes: normal AR or whatever you use plus av nades(if you don't have a nanohive on a ground class you have bigger problems than tanks). This can easily kill an armor tank with 2-3 throws (AS a squad not solo) For a shield tank on or two guys have standard flux. Combine the flux plus av nades and that's a dead shield tank. Remember do this as a squad. If you are not heavily spec into av you CAN NOT Rambo a well fit tank. Now please learn how to play this game efficiently so I don't have to explain how to kill one of my tanks. It is pretty sad how dumb the average dust player is. Actually grenade spamming is how I kill the weaker tanks, your explain solves nothing unless its a brain dead tank driver that just sits in one spot without moving around the map. The tanks that sit still are the tanks that I call weak tanks, which are the ones I grenade spam. You're the one that doesn't sound like you know what you are talking about. Which you're the guy that's always in the tank, so that explains why. Sorry not if the mood to argue with an idiot, you join Zion that's why you suck at something so simple as killing a tank. Enjoy and learn to adapt
Derek Barnes ZionTCD Legacy Rising 354	Posted - 2013.03.12 03:34:00 - [14] - Quote [/quote]Do you even life?[/quote] Di...Did....Did you just mess up the saying.
4447 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 688	Posted - 2013.03.12 03:35:00 - [15] - Quote Derek Barnes wrote: Do you even life?[/quote] Di...Did....Did you just mess up the saying. [/quote] He got me there, some how?
Sylvana Nightwind Expert Intervention Caldari State 104	Posted - 2013.03.12 03:36:00 - [16] - Quote Ambush tanks. Heaven for my swarm launcher.
Derek Barnes ZionTCD Legacy Rising 354	Posted - 2013.03.12 03:43:00 - [17] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Sorry I'm not in the mood to talk with an idiot, you joined Zion. That is why you suck at something so simple as killing a tank. Enjoy and learn to adapt There's the Zitro I know, always trying to pull insults whenever he's losing at an argument
Mr Zitro Imperfects Negative-Feedback 448	Posted - 2013.03.12 03:54:00 - [18] - Quote Derek Barnes wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Sorry I'm not in the mood to talk with an idiot, you joined Zion. That is why you suck at something so simple as killing a tank. Enjoy and learn to adapt There's the Zitro I know, always trying to pull insults whenever he's losing at an argument Also I started this conversation about tankers on my team ending matches so fast, the rest of the team doesn't get to do much. How did we get to talking about tanks on the opposite team than me? I know how to stay out of sight of enemy tanks in ambush matches, I'm a ghost in the wind. Funny you know me but I don't know you
Derek Barnes ZionTCD Legacy Rising 354	Posted - 2013.03.12 03:58:00 - [19] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Funny you know me but I don't know you I've been here since closed beta back in July, I just stopped playing for months until open beta started. But stayed on the forums during my months off. Like I said, I am a ghost in the wind.
Breakin Stuff Immobile Infantry 706	Posted - 2013.03.12 04:44:00 - [20] - Quote Please keep bringing tanks into ambushes. The last ones were delicious.

lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 363	Posted - 2013.03.12 04:47:00 - [21] - Quote I have gotten over being butt hurt over tanks in the game and all that. What my hopes in the future is that there may be a game mode that allows 0 vehicles in it, strictly gun on gun action.
Breakin Stuff Immobile Infantry 706	Posted - 2013.03.12 04:50:00 - [22] - Quote but then i won't be able to use my forge guns efficiently. I'll have to use my HMG or something. or perhaps, you know, grenade spam.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1954	Posted - 2013.03.12 08:56:00 - [23] - Quote Derek Barnes wrote: Actually grenade spamming is how I kill the weaker tanks, your explain solves nothing unless its a brain dead tank driver that just sits in one spot without moving around the map. The tanks that sit still are the tanks that I call weak tanks, which are the ones I grenade spam. You're the one that doesn't sound like you know what you are talking about. Which you're the guy that's always in the tank, so that explains why. Grenade spam works to SOLO weak tanks. Squad-based AV nade spam works on good tanks. Good Forge + Swarm players working together is also a good option. Especially if either/both/someone else nearby has AV Grenades.
The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1114	Posted - 2013.03.12 09:19:00 - [24] - Quote If you have a squad and a dropship with a CRU you can use that to keep deploying AV infantry in good position to keep the pounding on the tank. But appearently teamwork is a rare thing these days.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 429	Posted - 2013.03.12 09:35:00 - [25] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Derek Barnes wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Derek Barnes wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Tanks are easy to kill, make a squad and try to adapt. If you want tank fits and av fits go get my book We are still at the point of the beta where everyone's specializing in different weapons and equipment. Not everyone has strong AV as one another. A squad of 4 using militia or standard AV gear is not going to kill a heavy shielded/armored tank especially when most of the time the same team has multiple tanks practically guarding each other out on a small Ambush map. I do destroy a lot of tanks in Ambush, but those are the guys thinking they are tankers. Ok let me explain something very simple, the solution to vehicle is av nade spam. Why cause even basic av nades have a higher dps than most SL and FG. Get a squad of 4 people they don't even have to be good. All they have to do is spam 1 button and throw nanohives. Examples of classes: normal AR or whatever you use plus av nades(if you don't have a nanohive on a ground class you have bigger problems than tanks). This can easily kill an armor tank with 2-3 throws (AS a squad not solo) For a shield tank on or two guys have standard flux. Combine the flux plus av nades and that's a dead shield tank. Remember do this as a squad. If you are not heavily spec into av you CAN NOT Rambo a well fit tank. Now please learn how to play this game efficiently so I don't have to explain how to kill one of my tanks. It is pretty sad how dumb the average dust player is. Actually grenade spamming is how I kill the weaker tanks, your explain solves nothing unless its a brain dead tank driver that just sits in one spot without moving around the map. The tanks that sit still are the tanks that I call weak tanks, which are the ones I grenade spam. You're the one that doesn't sound like you know what you are talking about. Which you're the guy that's always in the tank, so that explains why. Sorry I'm not in the mood to talk with an idiot, you joined Zion. That is why you suck at something so simple as killing a tank. Enjoy and learn to adapt Enjoy and adapt?? Enjoys Borderlands 2 all next week. Adapts to playing Defiance. There you go. No new content= boredom.
BlG MAMA PLAYSTATION4 5	Posted - 2013.03.12 09:45:00 - [26] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Tanks are easy to kill, make a squad and try to adapt. If you want tank fits and av fits go get my book how about when people stay with tanks far in the red zone and you cant get to them and all they do is tank sniping?
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1955	Posted - 2013.03.12 10:12:00 - [27] - Quote BlG MAMA wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Tanks are easy to kill, make a squad and try to adapt. If you want tank fits and av fits go get my book how about when people stay with tanks far in the red zone and you cant get to them and all they do is tank sniping? 2 players. Both skill into LIght Weapon Sharpshooter. One brings Laser Rifle, the other brings Swarm Launcher. There aren't many redzones deep enough to hide.
BlG MAMA PLAYSTATION4 5	Posted - 2013.03.12 11:04:00 - [28] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: BlG MAMA wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Tanks are easy to kill, make a squad and try to adapt. If you want tank fits and av fits go get my book how about when people stay with tanks far in the red zone and you cant get to them and all they do is tank sniping? 2 players. Both skill into LIght Weapon Sharpshooter. One brings Laser Rifle, the other brings Swarm Launcher. There aren't many redzones deep enough to hide. Yeah in Ambush red zone is not that deep so you can get to them but i was playing Skirmish and the red zone is prety deep for the opposing team and there was this tank far into red zone and high on a hill who was sniping objective A , it was easy for him to get behind the hill if there was any danger for him. In another Skirmish game i encountered same move but it was in our team. I found that a prety cheap move.
Logi Blade Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 28	Posted - 2013.03.12 11:09:00 - [29] - Quote The chicken**** coward tankies are pretty easy to avoid anyway and destroy so many of us aren't that bothered anymore.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1956	Posted - 2013.03.12 11:25:00 - [30] - Quote BlG MAMA wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: BlG MAMA wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Tanks are easy to kill, make a squad and try to adapt. If you want tank fits and av fits go get my book how about when people stay with tanks far in the red zone and you cant get to them and all they do is tank sniping? 2 players. Both skill into LIght Weapon Sharpshooter. One brings Laser Rifle, the other brings Swarm Launcher. There aren't many redzones deep enough to hide. Yeah in Ambush red zone is not that deep so you can get to them but i was playing Skirmish and the red zone is prety deep for the opposing team and there was this tank far into red zone and high on a hill who was sniping objective A , it was easy for him to get behind the hill if there was any danger for him. In another Skirmish game i encountered same move but it was in our team. I found that a prety cheap move. They have a tank that hides as soon as it starts taking fire. You have a dedicated person directing fire at it so it keeps staying hidden. Can you say "stalemate"? The Laser is a viable defense against approaching enemy infantry as well as being available to support the AV guy when the tank pops up again. The tank will spend the entire match hiding, and achieve precisely nothing. Or if you can lure it a little too far forward before opening fire, you can get lucky and rip it open. Or if your team brings a second AV player with a Forge Gun, you have a decent chance of popping the tank before it has time to run. And yes, I've done this to a tank before (Laser + Swarm. I was Swarm). I got more kills with my SMG than the tank guy got with his tank. I only had a couple of early-game hack points, and the 100 points I got for kills on softened-up infantry (thank you Laser guy), but I was the primary reason why an enemy had 0 WP and 0 kills even though he spend the whole match in a Gunnlogi.



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