They have a tank that hides as soon as it starts taking fire.

You have a dedicated person directing fire at it so it keeps staying hidden.

Can you say "stalemate"?

The Laser is a viable defense against approaching enemy infantry as well as being available to support the AV guy when the tank pops up again.

The tank will spend the entire match hiding, and achieve precisely nothing. Or if you can lure it a little too far forward before opening fire, you can get lucky and rip it open. Or if your team brings a second AV player with a Forge Gun, you have a decent chance of popping the tank before it has time to run.

And yes, I've done this to a tank before (Laser + Swarm. I was Swarm). I got more kills with my SMG than the tank guy got with his tank. I only had a couple of early-game hack points, and the 100 points I got for kills on softened-up infantry (thank you Laser guy), but I was the primary reason why an enemy had 0 WP and 0 kills even though he spend the whole match in a Gunnlogi.

Ambush is full of tryhard tactics, tbh. They try the same weapons/tactics in skirmish but it isn't so problematic because there are objectives to be taken. So, one may end up losing the game if they aren't focused on winning.

Yawn... didn't read anything in this thread, but:

I want to see CCP implement a tanks only ambush variant.

How awesome would this be? Even if it was just for a week or even a day.

no tanker would go to a tank only game, they'd lose their tanks lol. the whole idea of them using tanks in ambush is so that they won't lose their tanks, all the guys talking about tears and trash like that are simply chicken ***** avoiding skirmish.

Every Ambush match I get into now, there are Gunnlogis, Madrugars, or on some occasions Sagaris'. Usually I'm on the team with the better tank(s), but they still clear the field of enemies before anyone does much. I think it's only going to get worse from here on out.

Or am I just having very bad luck finding ambush or OMS matches?

Funny you know me but I don't know you

Do you tank? I do. In my experience it is far more risky to bring a tank into ambush than skirmish. So your reasoning makes no sence to me.

As an experienced tanker, I would actually be quite interested in a tanks only ambush, for nothing more than fun factor (money isn't everything, and for those to whom it is, I pitty you). Wouldn't be able to do it often though.

Yawn... didn't read anything in this thread, but:

I want to see CCP implement a tanks only ambush variant.

How awesome would this be? Even if it was just for a week or even a day.

Ok let me explain something very simple, the solution to vehicle is av nade spam.

Why cause even basic av nades have a higher dps than most SL and FG. Get a squad of 4 people they don't even have to be good. All they have to do is spam 1 button and throw nanohives.

Examples of classes: normal AR or whatever you use plus av nades(if you don't have a nanohive on a ground class you have bigger problems than tanks). This can easily kill an armor tank with 2-3 throws (AS a squad not solo)

For a shield tank on or two guys have standard flux. Combine the flux plus av nades and that's a dead shield tank. Remember do this as a squad. If you are not heavily spec into av you CAN NOT Rambo a well fit tank.

Now please learn how to play this game efficiently so I don't have to explain how to kill one of my tanks.
It is pretty sad how dumb the average dust player is.

I think there are two primary reasons. One obvious the other not as much.

1) Like the rest of us tankers are trying to max SP and ISK gains after cap

2) Orbital Bombardments have chased HAV drivers out of Skirmish since an opposing team has more means and time to get WP. OB's being insta-death and a big loss of ISK to anything but a high end or well built armor HAV.

Just my take.

And next week.

It will all be AV warfare!

I ride with a alot of tankers, and their is only one risky map to bring your tank in as far as ambush is concerned.

as for skirmish the maps are larger, but they have ALOT more time to get your tank, they can get orbitals, and you have to stay alive alot longer, it's by far the riskier of the those two game modes at least if you're a decent tanker.

Not my experience. But then I am very rarely actually killed by an orbital (try though they do). It helps to constantly be on the move (at least as much as possible) and changing directions constantly as well.

Tanks are not worth the isk or WP per reward for killing, When I play I just avoid them because the amount of wp per minute and isk per minute i get from killing them compared to players is laughable. Tanks need to give a higher ISK reward probably 1/3 of that tanks worth as reward (should be the same for Dropsuits).

Fighting tanks is not worth my time with i can kill 10-20 players in the time i could spend chasing a tank around the map. The only time I bother to hunt tanks is when it becomes less profitable for me to avoid the tank then to hunt it down. And then he goes down but it still only worth my time because he was personally in my way.

I'm selfish that way, I don't care if my team is getting slaughters as long as its to my benefit to not hunt that tank down I wont. Wining and losing the match is not even a factor because it does not matter if you win or lose the match all that matters is how much SP/ISK I can pull per min.

Make it work my while to hunt them.

how about when people stay with tanks far in the red zone and you cant get to them and all they do is tank sniping?

Theres no reason to win skirmish, just killing is oftin the correct way to play it, usuing objectives more as bait than anything else

Every Ambush match I get into now, there are Gunnlogis, Madrugars, or on some occasions Sagaris'. Usually I'm on the team with the better tank(s), but they still clear the field of enemies before anyone does much. I think it's only going to get worse from here on out.

Or am I just having very bad luck finding ambush or OMS matches?