If so, why would anyone one spend money to get AUR?

This is still being asked

Because you have haters that keep spreading rumors.

No, because CCP can't be clear on the matter without tack on caveats that have kept moving a bit under fire.

Because you have haters that keep spreading rumors.

What isnt clear about 1.0 being release?

I would like to add there been plenty of betas that have taken money well before release.

Pay to get in.
Pay to be a 'Founder'
Pay to 'transfer to final version'
Pay to 'test the micro-transaction system' (thankfully blizzard gave out fake money for this test)
ect. ect.

They can change the terms of usage all they want they cant change the terms of a purchase agreement which is what the merc pack was.

They can change the language it only applies to future sales.

And there isnt confusion on the SP reset the SP reset isnt in dispute. Learn to read what i said.

They also changed the language on merc packs a week or two after open beta not before so we're talking a 2 months at most.

Doesnt change it for everyone who bought merc packs that didnt include the closed beta access.

You can defend CCP until you are blue in the face doesn't change the fact that the whole thing was messy and ill handled.

And show me where they say this is DEFINITELY COMMERCIAL RELEASE more than that one post where they say we consider Open Beta as commercial release and see if they comment on it after we ask does that mean we will get our Aurum refunded. Ill wait. They clamored up real fast because CCP defintion of commercial release is probably very different from Marketing departments definition of commercial release and it has FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS SINCE THE MERC PACKS SAID ALL ITEMS ARE REFUNDED UPON COMMERCIAL RELEASE. They can change the language and that will be applicable to all purchasers after the language change its DOESNT APPLY TO ME OR OTHERS who bought MP BEFORE CHANGE

gday

Also this ISNT a purchase with just CCP, its also a purchase agreement with SONY, keep that in mind too please.

Im just waiting now for the thread lock and admonishment for spreading rumors despite the entire sequence of events ive stated are accurate.

All legal matters would be done though the wonderful state of California court system where smaller entittes have a historic trend of losing in favor of the larger entity.

Like apple's only victory against Samsung was here. Everywhere else in the world they loss way more money than what they now reduced winnings in california. Also Samsung just bought Sharp the supplier of the Retinia screen. Samsung also makes all the chips for the apples.

Finally, if you are that pissed off...

File a damn petition, get a resolution and be done with it, because that is what is going to get told to you, your failure to contact customer support is YOUR FAULT.

My pointing out a FLAW WITH COMMUNICATION and AMBIGUITY is not me being pissed off.

I DONT NEED TO CONTACT SUPPORT BECAUSE I HAVE NO INTENTION OF SEEKING REFUND. Learn to READ your sycophantic comments not withstanding, i find it amusing you can't tell that what i said has nothing with my displeasure over not getting AURUM items refunded but rather the manner in which the whole situation was/is handled and the continued lack of communication. But you can go ahead and defend that aspect all you like we see you for what you are, a shill, a prop, and fanboi that just wont quit.

They put you on payroll yet? They should, i'll start the IWS for ISM or (whatever the forum titile is) thread.

This is the full release,at least most of it

There better be a character reset at Full Release if they expect to get any NEW players! This game is still in Beta and long away from full release and its already one of the most newbie unfriendly games i have seen in a while.

The gap between new players and Veterans is growing everyday and is directly affecting Battle victory where some games basically come down to which side has the most veteran players with Heavy Armor & Heavy Weapons.

A big issue i am seeing in a good number of games is when one side gets signifigantly ahead of the other side, Maxed out veterans on the losing side who don't need SP and ISK as much either stop playing or drop out of the game...
...which leaves only the newer players on the losing side who need all the SP & ISK they can get who are now forced to take on the dominating team whose veterans have ALL switched to Heavy Armor & Weapons...
...and NOW those newbies aren't even getting ANY kills because they are getting 1-shot killed the second they poke their head out.

Also, its going to be hard to hold the attention of New Players as the game is now when those newbies log in with their starter Assault builds and realize their assault rifles arent doing ANY Damage to the veteran players Heavy Armor!

There better be a character reset at Full Release if they expect to get any NEW players! This game is still in Beta and long away from full release and its already one of the most newbie unfriendly games i have seen in a while.

The gap between new players and Veterans is growing everyday and is directly affecting Battle victory where some games basically come down to which side has the most veteran players with Heavy Armor & Heavy Weapons.

A big issue i am seeing in a good number of games is when one side gets signifigantly ahead of the other side, Maxed out veterans on the losing side who don't need SP and ISK as much either stop playing or drop out of the game...
...which leaves only the newer players on the losing side who need all the SP & ISK they can get who are now forced to take on the dominating team whose veterans have ALL switched to Heavy Armor & Weapons...
...and NOW those newbies aren't even getting ANY kills because they are getting 1-shot killed the second they poke their head out.

Also, its going to be hard to hold the attention of New Players as the game is now when those newbies log in with their starter Assault builds and realize their assault rifles arent doing ANY Damage to the veteran players Heavy Armor!

3.It's not individual disparity thats the issue so much but the makeup of the entire team. Like i said, i have seen many pub game come down solely to which side had more veterans with Heavy Armor winning and the side with more noobs like me losing! :)

4. A whole seperate issue in pub games is the number of people who quit playing or drop out of the game the minute their team starts losing. It is happening WAY too much and makes the game NO fun for the remaining players on the losing side.