DUST Search - Would our characters be reset for the full release?

Gunner Nightingale wrote:

They can change the terms of usage all they want they cant change the terms of a purchase agreement which is what the merc pack was.

They can change the language it only applies to future sales.

And there isnt confusion on the SP reset the SP reset isnt in dispute. Learn to read what i said.

They also changed the language on merc packs a week or two after open beta not before so we're talking a 2 months at most.

Doesnt change it for everyone who bought merc packs that didnt include the closed beta access.

You can defend CCP until you are blue in the face doesn't change the fact that the whole thing was messy and ill handled.

And show me where they say this is DEFINITELY COMMERCIAL RELEASE more than that one post where they say we consider Open Beta as commercial release and see if they comment on it after we ask does that mean we will get our Aurum refunded. Ill wait. They clamored up real fast because CCP defintion of commercial release is probably very different from Marketing departments definition of commercial release and it has FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS SINCE THE MERC PACKS SAID ALL ITEMS ARE REFUNDED UPON COMMERCIAL RELEASE. They can change the language and that will be applicable to all purchasers after the language change its DOESNT APPLY TO ME OR OTHERS who bought MP BEFORE CHANGE

gday

Also this ISNT a purchase with just CCP, its also a purchase agreement with SONY, keep that in mind too please.

Im just waiting now for the thread lock and admonishment for spreading rumors despite the entire sequence of events ive stated are accurate.


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Altina McAlterson TRUE TEA BAGGERS 390	Posted - 2013.03.10 00:23:00 - [1] - Quote I really don't understand what all the confusion is about. Official statement from CCP is no more resets barring something "catastrophic" happens or language that was similar to that. I don't think that's a very ambiguous statement and isn't really open to much interpretation. As for the merc pack thing, that was put up a long, long time ago. We don't know if that was an official statement from the DEV team or whether marketing put that up or what. They took it down so it's pretty clear they have no intention of refunding any AUR and as per the agreeement we all signed they reserve the right to change things. Everyone wants to be a lawyer but that's not how things work. This isn't the "commercial release" just because of what was said on the merc pack from a year ago or whenever it was. It's the commercial release when CCP says it is. Officially anyway. Whether it "might as well be" is something we call all debate until we're blue in the face.
Altina McAlterson TRUE TEA BAGGERS 390	Posted - 2013.03.10 01:01:00 - [2] - Quote Gunner Nightingale wrote: They can change the terms of usage all they want they cant change the terms of a purchase agreement which is what the merc pack was. They can change the language it only applies to future sales. And there isnt confusion on the SP reset the SP reset isnt in dispute. Learn to read what i said. They also changed the language on merc packs a week or two after open beta not before so we're talking a 2 months at most. Doesnt change it for everyone who bought merc packs that didnt include the closed beta access. You can defend CCP until you are blue in the face doesn't change the fact that the whole thing was messy and ill handled. And show me where they say this is DEFINITELY COMMERCIAL RELEASE more than that one post where they say we consider Open Beta as commercial release and see if they comment on it after we ask does that mean we will get our Aurum refunded. Ill wait. They clamored up real fast because CCP defintion of commercial release is probably very different from Marketing departments definition of commercial release and it has FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS SINCE THE MERC PACKS SAID ALL ITEMS ARE REFUNDED UPON COMMERCIAL RELEASE. They can change the language and that will be applicable to all purchasers after the language change its DOESNT APPLY TO ME OR OTHERS who bought MP BEFORE CHANGE gday Also this ISNT a purchase with just CCP, its also a purchase agreement with SONY, keep that in mind too please. Im just waiting now for the thread lock and admonishment for spreading rumors despite the entire sequence of events ive stated are accurate. I did read what you said. Maybe you didn't see my edit since you put up your post while I was typing mine. I know they changed the language recently but the item was put on the market something like a year ago. My comment about SP being reset was for the OP, you're not the only person on this thread. I also said that whether they are going to be bound by what it said on the merc pack or not is irrelevant to whether or not there will be a future refund of AUR. That is what CCP said so that is the answer. The merc pack issue is a matter for civil court in, I believe but could be mistaken, your current country of residence. So that's the answer to the OP's question. And I'm also not defending CCP. They handled this poorly and should probably have left a statement about future plans off an item for sale on the market for a game where they knew full well those future plans would change. I agree that ad wasn't put up there by the DEV team so this seems like a communication error and poor judgement on the part of some other department. I'm merely stating the facts as they stand currently. So calm down and don't think I'm attacking you personally.
Altina McAlterson TRUE TEA BAGGERS 394	Posted - 2013.03.10 06:31:00 - [3] - Quote Presti71 wrote: There better be a character reset at Full Release if they expect to get any NEW players! This game is still in Beta and long away from full release and its already one of the most newbie unfriendly games i have seen in a while. The gap between new players and Veterans is growing everyday and is directly affecting Battle victory where some games basically come down to which side has the most veteran players with Heavy Armor & Heavy Weapons. A big issue i am seeing in a good number of games is when one side gets signifigantly ahead of the other side, Maxed out veterans on the losing side who don't need SP and ISK as much either stop playing or drop out of the game... ...which leaves only the newer players on the losing side who need all the SP & ISK they can get who are now forced to take on the dominating team whose veterans have ALL switched to Heavy Armor & Weapons... ...and NOW those newbies aren't even getting ANY kills because they are getting 1-shot killed the second they poke their head out. Also, its going to be hard to hold the attention of New Players as the game is now when those newbies log in with their starter Assault builds and realize their assault rifles arent doing ANY Damage to the veteran players Heavy Armor! Possibly, but there's not going to be a reset so those noobs are just going to have to get used to it.