CCP Frame I need a response for this:

Was the Balac's Modified Assault Dropsuit supposed to display a unique skin? What about the Sagaris's desert camo?

I'm asking this because at the moment the dropsuit looks the same as a Assault Type I and the tank has not shown it's original camo in months. Shock assault does not appear to show unique skin either and also the Raider Scout (gold or strange lighting?)

Seems CCP only had 3 people working in the art department. I remember hearing last summer that content was delayed because of the art department.

Note to ccp hire more peeps, get them better tools, or maybe fire the weak and slow ones.

Like i tweeted a few minutes ago... This video is ..... "Meh...."
It's a huge plead on how the MD is a weapon with which you need average aim to get the job done. I'll acknowledge though that this dude knows its distance shot.

But in that video, there are more than half the kills which at close range get the job done while landing at 4-5 m from the target and without even hurting the owner.

I always hated grenade launcher.

We need FF.

I am getting sick and tired of enemies being able to spam an area and make a pile of unrevivable corpses while their blues walk away unscathed.

I'm starting to think the Freedom might be a little OP as far as splash radius, but I'm not really sure. Have to wait until more people use them, or I see a pack exploiting the lack of FF.

Like i tweeted a few minutes ago... This video is ..... "Meh...."
It's a huge plead on how the MD is a weapon with which you need average aim to get the job done. I'll acknowledge though that this dude knows its distance shot.

But in that video, there are more than half the kills which at close range get the job done while landing at 4-5 m from the target and without even hurting the owner.

I always hated grenade launcher.

Dude just because you can make a video does not mean you should make a video.

I saw nothing other then a normal player using MD. He hardly strafes, his shots are slow and off right. I saw no 1 shots, not one single jump 180 and fire kills.. a few two for one kills but adding slow motion was lame.

And just because you can climb on top of pipes and spray explosives, uncontested, does not mean that you are anything special.

Aim?

lolworthy

just tell your team to focus fire on me and the other mass driver users and those corpse wont be in a pile as much

I have no problem with the mass driver being able to wipe out a squad if he gets position and time.

The only thing I have a problem with is someone being able to spam a mixed group and only kill enemies. It is a garbage tactic. Same thing with Lasers.

FF always on needs to be tested ASAP while we still have that beta tag on. I don't mind shredding the occasional blue with my HMG if we can stop people abusing the force field.

This is true for all weapons. I see plenty of blue dots shooting me in the back with the AR. FF needs to come, and soon, but it will be a major change to all players. I'm not sure why people namedrop specific weapons here. Sure the MD has splash damage, so it will likely be affected most, but the laser rifle? I see HMGs, ARs, thrown grenades, even forge guns being bigger issues than the LR.

Isnt that what the video just showed?

I hate to tell you guys, but you need arguably better aim with the MD than with, say, the AR.

MD - not hitscan, so you have to predict where the player will be and land the MD round there
MD - MUST aim for a surface near the target, but not the target itself (I think this part is what confuses most of you AR people into thinking you don't need aim)
MD - shoot too close and you kill yourself

The MD requires a different kind of aim than hitscan weapons to be sure, but it is by no means easier. Having said that, I prefer the MD playstyle myself, but that's all it is - a playstyle preference.

If MDs were super easy to own up with, everyone would be using them - reference: AR

A nicely edited video showing a competent MD player but nothing really impressive.

And just because you can climb on top of pipes and spray explosives, uncontested, does not mean that you are anything special.

Thanks for the compliments everyone even the trolls!!

First off I never claimed or made this video to show how AWESOME I am with the MD anyone who questions that can see it up close and personal on the field..

I bought a PVR2 48hrs ago filmed a few matches and put in a song along with a lil editing...

Edited the entire video in a few hours... Only having the PVR2 for the past two days it hasn't caught half the crazy **** Ive pulled off with the MD, its my weapon of choice, Ive focused trained in it since final wipe, and felt I should make a lil video, (as some will disagree) nothing to impressive just a quick montage..

Thanks Dubbs for posting it on the forums and for the trolls out there ill be sure to make the next one with 360 AOE headshots!

Eveeryone uses ARs because that's what people are used to using in fps games. How can the MD be harder than an AR when your aim has to be precise in order to kill as opposed to MDs where you kill even if it isn't a direct hit and you miss. All that you have to do is hit in the area and they are dead. Not to mention, the proto MDs have a much larger splash damage radius and can kill much easier.

OK, I explained some of it already, but let me try again. Because the MD is not hitscan, you must aim in time and space. Because most weapons are hitscan, you only need to aim in space. If that makes no sense to you - brain up.

Also, the AR fires much faster than the MD, so yes, you have to point the AR at the target. The MD you have to point the weapon at the target as well, but differently as explained aboce. With the MD you get 6 shots (8 on the Assault variants). 6 shots - that's all. Also, you have a total of 18 shots in the gun, then you need supplies. This is a big limitation.

There are other issues that make the MD more difficult to use than casual observation would suggest.

I invite anyone who thinks the MD is an "easy" weapon to use, to try it for a while and see how it really works. It has it's place, but it is by no means easier than the "default" AR weapon.

I think the funniest part is where you mentioned "mass driver" and "aim" in the same sentence.

It goes more like this: With MD you kinda point yourself in the general direction of the red dots a bit and then mash R1 repeatedly until all the squishy things die from your 50m splash radius grenade launcher that does virtually no self-damage to the operator outside of him sticking the MD into an enemy's ribs and pulling the trigger.

btw, the other weapons do not instantly hit when you pull the trigger. Basing MD's "aiming" (lol) on the incorrect assumption that just because it has the lowest muzzle velocity it's the only one you have to "aim in time and space" is lulzy.

I can see by your hyperbole that you feel threatened. I'm guessing that by your 50m comment, you're the kind of player that sees an MD opponent and tries to hide next to a wall for cover, or runs up a hill in the open at a MD opponent who is behind cover. No matter. Dust 514 welcomes all, even the tactically challenged.

Please accept my heartfelt invitation to become uber and use the MD yourself. Second, the other weapons do hit instantly. That's kinda the definition of hitscan. Of course, you might not see this when watching videos or waiting for in game feedback, but that's a technical issue obviously beyond your comprehension.

Thanks for playing forum warrior with me. I have to go though, so please, again, accept my invitation to the elite and play a MD.

Dude just because you can make a video does not mean you should make a video.

I saw nothing other then a normal player using MD. He hardly strafes, his shots are slow and off right. I saw no 1 shots, not one single jump 180 and fire kills.. a few two for one kills but adding slow motion was lame.

You saw ckise quarter shots didn't you? Was the entire video on top of pipes?

Either way, I'm not defending MDs......I don't like them but it is a good video. But don't try to trash another MD player when all you do is camp on pipes with them.

Dude just because you can make a video does not mean you should make a video.

I saw nothing other then a normal player using MD. He hardly strafes, his shots are slow and off right. I saw no 1 shots, not one single jump 180 and fire kills.. a few two for one kills but adding slow motion was lame.

Eveeryone uses ARs because that's what people are used to using in fps games. How can the MD be harder than an AR when your aim has to be precise in order to kill as opposed to MDs where you kill even if it isn't a direct hit and you miss. All that you have to do is hit in the area and they are dead. Not to mention, the proto MDs have a much larger splash damage radius and can kill much easier.

video was terribad

Spoken like someone who has never used a Mass Driver. Easer than an Assault Riffle? Really? Even I can get kills with an Assault Riffle.

You'all really need to try the MD for a couple games, just for giggles you'know?

that "aiming at a surface" thing is a stone *****.
I'd love to see you AR folks (just the whiny ones) try to hit anything with 1/8 second to 2 second lag with only 6 shots, sure that that doesn't address that your opponent can jump over your damage but I'll spot you folks that one.
Yeah we get that blast radius but in shots that are farther than 30 meters away all a running target needs to do is stop and we miss (walking targets can start running the other way and that works for them too) you see in the future, grenades only hurt things up to 5 meters away but people can run 6 meters per second and our grenades take a bit o' time to get to you.

Please folks, try that stupid weapon before you claim there is no skill involved. It is one thing to be ignorant quietly, but proving is totally unnecessary.

Here's some advise though, when outfitting you can only have nanohives so you don't need to spend ISK on anything else, that makes MD easier for sure.

*as for friendly fire, I am wholly in favor (though it will totally change the mostly positive interactions in corp chat) I really want my corp mates to die painfully when they step infront of my MD (killing me)

Agreed.

I will also say the player in the Video is GOOD. Not jaw dropingly amazing, but good. No shame in that.

You'all really need to try the MD for a couple games, just for giggles you'know?

that "aiming at a surface" thing is a stone *****.
I'd love to see you AR folks (just the whiny ones) try to hit anything with 1/8 second to 2 second lag with only 6 shots, sure that that doesn't address that your opponent can jump over your damage but I'll spot you folks that one.
Yeah we get that blast radius but in shots that are farther than 30 meters away all a running target needs to do is stop and we miss (walking targets can start running the other way and that works for them too) you see in the future, grenades only hurt things up to 5 meters away but people can run 6 meters per second and our grenades take a bit o' time to get to you.

Please folks, try that stupid weapon before you claim there is no skill involved. It is one thing to be ignorant quietly, but proving is totally unnecessary.

Here's some advise though, when outfitting you can only have nanohives so you don't need to spend ISK on anything else, that makes MD easier for sure.

*as for friendly fire, I am wholly in favor (though it will totally change the mostly positive interactions in corp chat) I really want my corp mates to die painfully when they step infront of my MD (killing me)

The MD requires skill if you want to be good. But to say that it requires more skill to kill than an AR just isn't logical when you can miss and still kill

You'all really need to try the MD for a couple games, just for giggles you'know?

that "aiming at a surface" thing is a stone *****.
I'd love to see you AR folks (just the whiny ones) try to hit anything with 1/8 second to 2 second lag with only 6 shots, sure that that doesn't address that your opponent can jump over your damage but I'll spot you folks that one.
Yeah we get that blast radius but in shots that are farther than 30 meters away all a running target needs to do is stop and we miss (walking targets can start running the other way and that works for them too) you see in the future, grenades only hurt things up to 5 meters away but people can run 6 meters per second and our grenades take a bit o' time to get to you.

Please folks, try that stupid weapon before you claim there is no skill involved. It is one thing to be ignorant quietly, but proving is totally unnecessary.

Here's some advise though, when outfitting you can only have nanohives so you don't need to spend ISK on anything else, that makes MD easier for sure.

*as for friendly fire, I am wholly in favor (though it will totally change the mostly positive interactions in corp chat) I really want my corp mates to die painfully when they step infront of my MD (killing me)

Please folks, try that stupid weapon before you claim there is no skill involved. It is one thing to be ignorant quietly, but proving is totally unnecessary.

Here's some advise though, when outfitting you can only have nanohives so you don't need to spend ISK on anything else, that makes MD easier for sure.

I would advise you to learn the differance between advice and advise before commenting on someones intelligence. Other than that you make some fairly decent points except what everyones missing in that the mass driver is super easy mode at 20 to 30 meters and under.

I apologize for not checking what my spell check did It is my responsibility to monitor my posts for perfect grammar and in that I failed . It seems off that you would correct me while having spelling errors in your post but I forgive you.

You are incorrect on "easy mode" You might want to add some criteria: opponent has already taken shield damage, he is against a wall, he is facing the wrong way...actually that is easy mode for everyone...
What is not easy mode is 20-30 meters where your opponent is above you, or shooting you with a GEK or better or you just had an engagement and you need to take 3.5 seconds to reload 6 more shots (which kills only 2 players)

How much damage is in a full mag of AR. How much damage is in an EXO?

You dont even realize that yours wasnt a spelling error but rather improper word usage, which I feel is a worse grammar **** offense since many words are spelled differant than they sound. And dont even start with me on the shield damage BS. Yall have flux grenades you can use as well as the fact that mass drivers do more damage to shields than people give them credit for.

Had you spelled "different" correctly I would now be pointing out that this should be "differently". "Spelled" is a verb and should be modified by an adverb, not an adjective. Don't even get me started on the lack of apostrophes.

Dude just because you can make a video does not mean you should make a video.

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You dont even realize that yours wasnt a spelling error but rather improper word usage, which I feel is a worse grammar **** offense since many words are spelled differant than they sound. And dont even start with me on the shield damage BS. Yall have flux grenades you can use as well as the fact that mass drivers do more damage to shields than people give them credit for.

Eveeryone uses ARs because that's what people are used to using in fps games. How can the MD be harder than an AR when your aim has to be precise in order to kill as opposed to MDs where you kill even if it isn't a direct hit and you miss. All that you have to do is hit in the area and they are dead. Not to mention, the proto MDs have a much larger splash damage radius and can kill much easier.

I think the funniest part is where you mentioned "mass driver" and "aim" in the same sentence.

It goes more like this: With MD you kinda point yourself in the general direction of the red dots a bit and then mash R1 repeatedly until all the squishy things die from your 50m splash radius grenade launcher that does virtually no self-damage to the operator outside of him sticking the MD into an enemy's ribs and pulling the trigger.

btw, the other weapons do not instantly hit when you pull the trigger. Basing MD's "aiming" (lol) on the incorrect assumption that just because it has the lowest muzzle velocity it's the only one you have to "aim in time and space" is lulzy.

Quite logical actually. If your aiming at someone say 10m away, and miss, it flys past him and far enough where it wont do any damage. Simply lets every raspberry know where you are at. After playing with the mass driver for a month or so now, I ran around with the AR the other day and it was like I was playing easy mode. Of course this was against your average players. I got murdered against any good players because I have no skill into suits or AR's.

That wasn't Nasty enough.

Today I took on a Subreddit Heavy, solo, in a scout suit with basic Mass driver and Flux nades and he never even hit my shields.

You gotta love all the hate. Hate is a sign of respect because you all wish you're as good as the player ur hating on.

Bolsh owns lots of people with his MD.