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Ydubbs81 RND
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Posted - 2013.03.07 14:37:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xZY6mQJOkw&feature=player_embedded |
Ydubbs81 RND
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Posted - 2013.03.07 16:25:00 -
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DEADPOOL5241 wrote:Dude just because you can make a video does not mean you should make a video.
I saw nothing other then a normal player using MD. He hardly strafes, his shots are slow and off right. I saw no 1 shots, not one single jump 180 and fire kills.. a few two for one kills but adding slow motion was lame.
And just because you can climb on top of pipes and spray explosives, uncontested, does not mean that you are anything special. |
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Posted - 2013.03.07 17:12:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:DEADPOOL5241 wrote:Dude just because you can make a video does not mean you should make a video.
I saw nothing other then a normal player using MD. He hardly strafes, his shots are slow and off right. I saw no 1 shots, not one single jump 180 and fire kills.. a few two for one kills but adding slow motion was lame. And just because you can climb on top of pipes and spray explosives, uncontested, does not mean that you are anything special. Isnt that what the video just showed?
You saw ckise quarter shots didn't you? Was the entire video on top of pipes?
Either way, I'm not defending MDs......I don't like them but it is a good video. But don't try to trash another MD player when all you do is camp on pipes with them. |
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Posted - 2013.03.07 17:19:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Laurent Cazaderon wrote:Like i tweeted a few minutes ago... This video is ..... "Meh...."
It's a huge plead on how the MD is a weapon with which you need average aim to get the job done. I'll acknowledge though that this dude knows its distance shot.
But in that video, there are more than half the kills which at close range get the job done while landing at 4-5 m from the target and without even hurting the owner.
I always hated grenade launcher. Aim? lolworthy I hate to tell you guys, but you need arguably better aim with the MD than with, say, the AR. MD - not hitscan, so you have to predict where the player will be and land the MD round there MD - MUST aim for a surface near the target, but not the target itself (I think this part is what confuses most of you AR people into thinking you don't need aim) MD - shoot too close and you kill yourself The MD requires a different kind of aim than hitscan weapons to be sure, but it is by no means easier. Having said that, I prefer the MD playstyle myself, but that's all it is - a playstyle preference. If MDs were super easy to own up with, everyone would be using them - reference: AR
Eveeryone uses ARs because that's what people are used to using in fps games. How can the MD be harder than an AR when your aim has to be precise in order to kill as opposed to MDs where you kill even if it isn't a direct hit and you miss. All that you have to do is hit in the area and they are dead. Not to mention, the proto MDs have a much larger splash damage radius and can kill much easier. |
Ydubbs81 RND
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Posted - 2013.03.07 19:20:00 -
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I'm not saying that the MD doesn't require some skill.....because it does. But I don't agree that it utilizes more skill than an AR just because there isn't a hitscan.
The AR leaves the least amount of room for error aside from the sniper, as far as aiming is concerned. |
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Posted - 2013.03.08 01:07:00 -
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XXfootnoteXX wrote:Thog A Kuma wrote:You'all really need to try the MD for a couple games, just for giggles you'know?
that "aiming at a surface" thing is a stone *****.
I'd love to see you AR folks (just the whiny ones) try to hit anything with 1/8 second to 2 second lag with only 6 shots, sure that that doesn't address that your opponent can jump over your damage but I'll spot you folks that one.
Yeah we get that blast radius but in shots that are farther than 30 meters away all a running target needs to do is stop and we miss (walking targets can start running the other way and that works for them too) you see in the future, grenades only hurt things up to 5 meters away but people can run 6 meters per second and our grenades take a bit o' time to get to you.
Please folks, try that stupid weapon before you claim there is no skill involved. It is one thing to be ignorant quietly, but proving is totally unnecessary.
Here's some advise though, when outfitting you can only have nanohives so you don't need to spend ISK on anything else, that makes MD easier for sure.
*as for friendly fire, I am wholly in favor (though it will totally change the mostly positive interactions in corp chat) I really want my corp mates to die painfully when they step infront of my MD (killing me)
Agreed. I will also say the player in the Video is GOOD. Not jaw dropingly amazing, but good. No shame in that.
Wait for his next video.......this was his first video that he posted just to get something out. I thought it was a good looking video which is why I posted it. |
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Posted - 2013.03.08 01:14:00 -
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Thog A Kuma wrote:You'all really need to try the MD for a couple games, just for giggles you'know?
that "aiming at a surface" thing is a stone *****.
I'd love to see you AR folks (just the whiny ones) try to hit anything with 1/8 second to 2 second lag with only 6 shots, sure that that doesn't address that your opponent can jump over your damage but I'll spot you folks that one.
Yeah we get that blast radius but in shots that are farther than 30 meters away all a running target needs to do is stop and we miss (walking targets can start running the other way and that works for them too) you see in the future, grenades only hurt things up to 5 meters away but people can run 6 meters per second and our grenades take a bit o' time to get to you.
Please folks, try that stupid weapon before you claim there is no skill involved. It is one thing to be ignorant quietly, but proving is totally unnecessary.
Here's some advise though, when outfitting you can only have nanohives so you don't need to spend ISK on anything else, that makes MD easier for sure.
*as for friendly fire, I am wholly in favor (though it will totally change the mostly positive interactions in corp chat) I really want my corp mates to die painfully when they step infront of my MD (killing me)
The MD requires skill if you want to be good. But to say that it requires more skill to kill than an AR just isn't logical when you can miss and still kill |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.03.08 14:06:00 -
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XXfootnoteXX wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Thog A Kuma wrote:You'all really need to try the MD for a couple games, just for giggles you'know?
that "aiming at a surface" thing is a stone *****.
I'd love to see you AR folks (just the whiny ones) try to hit anything with 1/8 second to 2 second lag with only 6 shots, sure that that doesn't address that your opponent can jump over your damage but I'll spot you folks that one.
Yeah we get that blast radius but in shots that are farther than 30 meters away all a running target needs to do is stop and we miss (walking targets can start running the other way and that works for them too) you see in the future, grenades only hurt things up to 5 meters away but people can run 6 meters per second and our grenades take a bit o' time to get to you.
Please folks, try that stupid weapon before you claim there is no skill involved. It is one thing to be ignorant quietly, but proving is totally unnecessary.
Here's some advise though, when outfitting you can only have nanohives so you don't need to spend ISK on anything else, that makes MD easier for sure.
*as for friendly fire, I am wholly in favor (though it will totally change the mostly positive interactions in corp chat) I really want my corp mates to die painfully when they step infront of my MD (killing me)
The MD requires skill if you want to be good. But to say that it requires more skill to kill than an AR just isn't logical when you can miss and still kill Quite logical actually. If your aiming at someone say 10m away, and miss, it flys past him and far enough where it wont do any damage. Simply lets every raspberry know where you are at. After playing with the mass driver for a month or so now, I ran around with the AR the other day and it was like I was playing easy mode. Of course this was against your average players. I got murdered against any good players because I have no skill into suits or AR's.
c'mon man.....of course you can totally miss with the mass driver.
With the ARs, it has to be a direct hit. It's direct hit or no kill. With MDs, it's direct hit, then miss with splash damage, or just miss totally. |
Ydubbs81 RND
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Posted - 2013.03.08 14:15:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:That wasn't Nasty enough.
Today I took on a Subreddit Heavy, solo, in a scout suit with basic Mass driver and Flux nades and he never even hit my shields.
Your adventure "wasn't Nasty enough" as I 1 v 2'ed two heavies with full health yesterday, with an AR.......Big deal, so what.
You were just looking for a reason to say that you killed one heavy...this is hardly the thread or the context for it. |
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