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Nguruthos IX Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 73	Posted - 2013.03.06 20:54:00 - [1] - Quote As it stands there's a LAV, HAV, and "Dropship" which is technically a medium aircraft of some non attack variety. Would you like to see some heavy aircraft, and if so what would you like it to do? Lets not be too ridiculous here.
JL3Eleven Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 136	Posted - 2013.03.06 20:55:00 - [2] - Quote NO!
Ten-Sidhe Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 422	Posted - 2013.03.06 20:59:00 - [3] - Quote Perhaps a large dropship that can pick up and move an hav or a dozen dropsuits. Like a C-130 vtol. No AC-130 though, that would just suck to be on other team against. Not needed till we have much larger maps.
DJINN Marauder Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 276	Posted - 2013.03.06 21:01:00 - [4] - Quote I'd like to see a buff to the heavy proto... But yes heavy aircraft too
Nguruthos IX Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 73	Posted - 2013.03.06 21:04:00 - [5] - Quote Ten-Sidhe wrote: Perhaps a large dropship that can pick up and move an hav or a dozen dropsuits. Like a C-130 vtol. No AC-130 though, that would just suck to be on other team against. Not needed till we have much larger maps. I'm imaging some lumbering behemoth that would make it easy to hit and hard to move. perhaps a drone bay and a CRU built in. I mention this because I see an icon for heavy air vehicles on the map legend.
Nguruthos IX Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 73	Posted - 2013.03.06 21:05:00 - [6] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: I'd like to see a buff to the heavy proto... But yes heavy aircraft too maybe the heavy aircraft could provide a small AOE buff zone for ground troops. like a bubble shield repair around it
WyrmHero1945 IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 33	Posted - 2013.03.06 21:16:00 - [7] - Quote Me but I want fighters and assault 'dropships' first.
Skihids Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 1000	Posted - 2013.03.06 21:32:00 - [8] - Quote A tank destroying beast akin to the A-10.
Nguruthos IX Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 73	Posted - 2013.03.06 21:33:00 - [9] - Quote WyrmHero1945 wrote: Me but I want fighters and assault 'dropships' first. I imagine they wouldn't be called dropships but lumped in with LAV/(MAV?)/HAVs
PAs Capone Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 10	Posted - 2013.03.06 21:39:00 - [10] - Quote Im picturing an aircraft capable of picking up heavies, (think like a missile on a wing) and the heavy is capable of shooting his weapon down into the battle. Forges- HMG's- Plasma Cannons?, all the while a logi in a bay can heal the heavies as they absorb bullets and rain death. If you want it done Right, Hire a Professional...

D3LTA Blitzkrieg II D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire 0	Posted - 2013.03.06 21:46:00 - [11] - Quote Heavy aircraft would be super hard to implement and balance properly. BATTLEFIELD 3 still struggles to balance their aerial combat and they have been making FPS's for over 10 years. Let CCP just focus on the simple stuff and iron out the current game play. I don't see any new vehicles on the horizon just yet
D Avenue KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 12	Posted - 2013.03.06 22:01:00 - [12] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: As it stands there's a LAV, HAV, and "Dropship" which is technically a medium aircraft of some non attack variety. Would you like to see some heavy aircraft, and if so what would you like it to do? Lets not be too ridiculous here. FLYING TANKS!!!!!!! ...wait too ridiculous??? this is a futuristic game right?
iceyburnz Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 292	Posted - 2013.03.06 22:07:00 - [13] - Quote The dropship is "medium' and its quite small. Id like gunships tbh.
Knight SoIaire Better Hide R Die 55	Posted - 2013.03.06 23:37:00 - [14] - Quote Am I the only one thats seen the loading screen showing all the 'Legends' (Supply Depots, units), it says on that 'Heavy Aircraft' , 'Light Aircraft' and 'Medium Ground Vehicle' all of which we dont have now.
Aqil Aegivan The Southern Legion 77	Posted - 2013.03.06 23:40:00 - [15] - Quote Knight SoIaire wrote: Am I the only one thats seen the loading screen showing all the 'Legends' (Supply Depots, units), it says on that 'Heavy Aircraft' , 'Light Aircraft' and 'Medium Ground Vehicle' all of which we dont have now. Nope, there are also command nodes and defense relays. Or is it the other way around? Either way, there's plenty we haven't seen in the pipe.
WyrmHero1945 IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 33	Posted - 2013.03.06 23:50:00 - [16] - Quote iceyburnz wrote: The dropship is "medium' and its quite small. Id like gunships tbh. That was the word I was looking for thanks. Tank destroying gunships!!!
Nguruthos IX Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 73	Posted - 2013.03.06 23:51:00 - [17] - Quote iceyburnz wrote: The dropship is "medium' and its quite small. Id like gunships tbh. but what class of vehicle would gunships and fighters be?
Rupture Reaperson Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 46	Posted - 2013.03.06 23:52:00 - [18] - Quote I want to see small aircrafts. Ace Combat style.
Aqil Aegivan The Southern Legion 77	Posted - 2013.03.06 23:56:00 - [19] - Quote Rupture Reaperson wrote: I want to see small aircrafts. Ace Combat style. It had never occurred to me before that the light air vehicle may be a lot more fun, zipping around in a tiny one man craft would be rad.
Nguruthos IX Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 73	Posted - 2013.03.06 23:57:00 - [20] - Quote Aqil Aegivan wrote: Rupture Reaperson wrote: I want to see small aircrafts. Ace Combat style. It had never occurred to me before that the light air vehicle may be a lot more fun, zipping around in a tiny one man craft would be rad. till forge gun :X the lavs of the sky.

Logi Bro ZionTCD Legacy Rising 883	Posted - 2013.03.07 00:33:00 - [21] - Quote I'm pretty sure the heavy airships are going to be gunships, light airships will be fighters. CCP's way ahead of you.
Rifter7 Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION 59	Posted - 2013.03.07 00:38:00 - [22] - Quote imo the maps are to small atm.. i'd like to see them in the future if bigger maps are incorporated tho.
IwillNameHim GEORGE Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 14	Posted - 2013.03.07 00:40:00 - [23] - Quote WyrmHero1945 wrote: iceyburnz wrote: The dropship is "medium' and its quite small. Id like gunships tbh. That was the word I was looking for thanks. Tank destroying gunships!!! hmmm How about tank DEPLOYING gunships? spawn you tank in the gunship, drive out, and cush any sucker beneath you as you drop down :o
Magpie Raven ZionTCD Legacy Rising 164	Posted - 2013.03.07 00:42:00 - [24] - Quote Gunships are obviously going to be the heavy unit. But has anyone played ace combat? There was a mission in one of the games where we had to literally fight a giant flying aircraft carrier. It was so bad ads. A scenario like this would work great on a gas planet. Needless to say by then fighters and gunships would be in game. Drop ships would ferry mercs to it to blow the engines or something while fighter a act as a screen for the deposits and shoot engines from the outside
Zekain Kade BetaMax. 951	Posted - 2013.03.07 00:45:00 - [25] - Quote Hows about an RDV that has 4 turrets, like the one in the concept art thread wolf posted awhile back. Being able to carry vehilces to where you want them would already be a huge bonus to having one. It would fly in, then land and let you fly it. Plus 4 others can manage the 4 turrets, and it also be able to carry 4 other mercs aswell. plus a vehicle.
SERPENT-Adamapple Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 7	Posted - 2013.03.07 00:46:00 - [26] - Quote Those heavy air vehicles could also be applying to giant drones in PVE modes.
Sobriety Denied Universal Allies Inc. 476	Posted - 2013.03.07 00:55:00 - [27] - Quote how bout a heavy bomber, cant make sharp turns, needs escort, can carry a crew of pilot, bombadier, and 4 gunners, (nose, 2 waist and a tail gunner)
Iago Templar SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 0	Posted - 2013.03.07 01:16:00 - [28] - Quote WARNING Slightly off topic. I look forward to all the new types of Aircraft but I have a theory about fighters and bombers. Last year at Fanfest they showed a graph with five pillars on the page and in this video the interviewer (wrongly I believe) said that that might mean that Dust 514 would go to PC, but the CCP staff said that they were five different IPs that CCP owns, obviously EVE, Dust and WOD that leaves two more pillars without announced IP's. I think one of those ideas is another cross platform game, i.e. a fighter/bomber game in which you play a pilot in both EVE and DUST, imagine that! You launch from a carrier up in space dogfight with the opposing fleets fighters, then at the command from your wing leader you cross the atmosphere threshold and scream into combat in lower atmosphere operations supporting the ground pounders in DUST with air strikes and/or further dogfighting support. Now I know what you're gonna say: All the many Balancing issues. Lack of a market for flight sims. Technologys simply not there. Nightmare of three games crossing over as opposed to two, which is a monumental task. BUT If anyone can make it work CCP can. I have faith, Puts on tin-foil hat (Shh they're listening!)
Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 129	Posted - 2013.03.07 01:27:00 - [29] - Quote Iago Templar wrote: EVE, Dust and WOD that leaves two more pillars without announced IP's. EVE and DUST are basically the same intellectual property.
Iago Templar SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 0	Posted - 2013.03.07 01:43:00 - [30] - Quote Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe wrote: Iago Templar wrote: EVE, Dust and WOD that leaves two more pillars without announced IP's. EVE and DUST are basically the same intellectual property. Yeah but, Bad-ass fighter pilots, playing volley-ball on the beach saying "you can be my wing man anytime." Think about it. Plus they aren't quite the same IP they are separate games set in the same world but they require separate copyrights. This is the video in which they talk about it sorry should have linked in the previous post.

Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1088	Posted - 2013.03.07 02:00:00 - [31] - Quote Skytank ftw! There isn't much to be done with heavy aircraft, but I wouldn't imagine they would be as OP as people may think- my fighter will make sure of that.
Charlotte O'Dell Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 17	Posted - 2013.03.07 02:07:00 - [32] - Quote +1
Magpie Raven ZionTCD Legacy Rising 164	Posted - 2013.03.07 02:20:00 - [33] - Quote Iago Templar wrote: WARNING Slightly off topic. I look forward to all the new types of Aircraft but I have a theory about fighters and bombers. Last year at Fanfest they showed a graph with five pillars on the page and in this video the interviewer (wrongly I believe) said that that might mean that Dust 514 would go to PC, but the CCP staff said that they were five different IPs that CCP owns, obviously EVE, Dust and WOD that leaves two more pillars without announced IP's. I think one of those ideas is another cross platform game, i.e. a fighter/bomber game in which you play a pilot in both EVE and DUST, imagine that! You launch from a carrier up in space dogfight with the opposing fleets fighters, then at the command from your wing leader you cross the atmosphere threshold and scream into combat in lower atmosphere operations supporting the ground pounders in DUST with air strikes and/or further dogfighting support. Now I know what you're gonna say: All the many Balancing issues. Lack of a market for flight sims. Technologys simply not there. Nightmare of three games crossing over as opposed to two, which is a monumental task. BUT If anyone can make it work CCP can. I have faith, Puts on tin-foil hat (Shh they're listening!) This is such a sexy idea. I would love flying.g off a supercarrier are dodging flak cannon fire from enemy battleships. Abiding enemy fighter to do a bombing run on a capital ship. Although I think that dust player will be able to fly air vehicles in game another game where we play fighter pilots in space would be awesome
The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1089	Posted - 2013.03.07 02:23:00 - [34] - Quote This stuff will come into the game and you cant deny it. Why you ask? Take a look at the symbol legend. There are light and heavy aircrafts listed. There is aswell a icon for the medium ground vehicle. Now for those that dont know it: the dropship/bolas are classified as "medium aircrafts". And the MCC has its own icon so there are 3 vehicle categorys to come. I want a proper gunship like a Hind-D with alot of firepower not that crappy dropship. Fighters would aswell be nice. All aircrafts will probably be based on VTOL's with different acceleration. And dont forget the bigger a vehicle gets the slower it becomes. I imagine fighters would work like the harrier. Well the future for infantry will be hars, very harsh and brutal. Simply cause CCP loves it to see expensive stuff go pop.
Nguruthos IX Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 78	Posted - 2013.03.07 02:31:00 - [35] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: This stuff will come into the game and you cant deny it. Why you ask? Take a look at the symbol legend. There are light and heavy aircrafts listed. There is aswell a icon for the medium ground vehicle. Now for those that dont know it: the dropship/bolas are classified as "medium aircrafts". And the MCC has its own icon so there are 3 vehicle categorys to come. I want a proper gunship like a Hind-D with alot of firepower not that crappy dropship. Fighters would aswell be nice. All aircrafts will probably be based on VTOL's with different acceleration. And dont forget the bigger a vehicle gets the slower it becomes. I imagine fighters would work like the harrier. Well the future for infantry will be hars, very harsh and brutal. Simply cause CCP loves it to see expensive stuff go pop. don't forget Mtacs though or whatever they're called. I'd rather be an infantry in a massive map with vehicle chaos everywhere than on the ground in some call of duty clone. Infantry won't have it so bad, considering they'll also be able to get in the LAV's, Tanks, Dropships, Gunships, possibly fighters, and if my dreams come true some heavy aircraft with a drone bay and laser turrets. Not to mention they won't have to front the expense of all those fun vehicles being destroyed constantly.
Brandon brownx Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.03.19 14:53:00 - [36] - Quote I would love to see some Heavy aircraft be put in to the game. An idea on how i think they should look is like the much larger ships you would use in star wars battle front 2, with afew modifications. Aslo they should have different mods for it since it will be air born and will be a easyier target.
Galthur CrimeWave Syndicate 27	Posted - 2013.03.19 15:18:00 - [37] - Quote "ETA 15 seconds" 'Caldari RDV crashes into a Gallente tank' That's your heavy aircraft
ChromeBreaker SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 296	Posted - 2013.03.19 15:28:00 - [38] - Quote I want some massive Zeppelin of doom reigning death from above!!!
Charlotte O'Dell Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 54	Posted - 2013.03.19 16:14:00 - [39] - Quote I think we need something with 20000 HP and 2 large turrets- the ultimate tank killer. But it'd be a big slow target.
The2 Holgg BetaMax. CRONOS. 50	Posted - 2013.03.19 16:22:00 - [40] - Quote yes something like this http://youtu.be/6nKruyRwaMM?t=5m25s

ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS 1NC 436	Posted - 2013.03.19 16:33:00 - [41] - Quote ooh yeah, more vehicles, just what this fps needs to bring it back to life.
Specter RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 57	Posted - 2013.03.19 18:47:00 - [42] - Quote Wondering if the Heavy Aircraft might be a sort of variation of the Warhawk KT-424 Dropship with some good capabilities Ups - 6 Mann-able Missile Turrets (Heat seeking against Aircraft (AA)) - 6 Machine Gun turrets (3 On each side (Only operable by the pilot) and can only be used 3 at a time at one side) = Very powerful Close to mid range Machine gun turrets that are very effective against personnel, and vehicles alike - Capable of carrying Ground Vehicles except the APC (See Below for APC) = Can carry LAVs and Tanks with people in them as well = Can load the flag on a vehicle and take the vehicle with the person that has the flag back to the allied flag for capturing - Fast in flight Mode - High HP - Uses Chaffs (Flares) to avoid missile confrontation (x3) Downsides - Slow in Combat mode (When Machine guns can be used) - Slow when picking up vehicles - Very low survivability without backup or Missile turret gunners - High Priority Target at any time - Noticeable on the Map no matter what - Low Defensive capabilities (When only pilot) And another thing I want to see is a Heavy Transport Vehicle like an APC Theres an APC in Warhawk as well that is very well rounded in its capabilities, heres all the ups and downs Ups - Heavy Armor and large HP - Very fast with Charge Boost thrust = Can take out LAVs with the boost as well as other APCs and Aircraft stupid enough to be within jumping range or on the ground being a derp - Able to deploy a Force Field = Force Field allows soldiers and vehicles to fire out and resists any incoming fire = Force Field can destroy ANY aircraft that touches it - Can carry 6 infantry units who can also fire out with their own weapons they obtained - Internal spawning system (Can be spawned on after death) Downsides - Highly noticeable on the Map, but can still be hidden sometimes - No actual weaponry of its own - High Priority Target because of spawning capabilities - Force Field can be destroyed by = Destroying the deployed device in the center of the circle = Hitting with a EMP weapon = Another APC Deploys its own force field in it or if the field touches it (Overlaps) - Force field also has a small hole on the top of its dome which can lead to TOW Missiles going in or strikes going into it - Can be destroyed by other APCs So yeah, I wonder if any of these can be put in in a way differently in Dust514 as heavier vehicles. They are greatly diversified in how they work honestly and I think they're both great concepts in the world of Warhawk. Too bad Starhawk doesn't have these because I used to use the hell out of em back in Warhawk. Any variation of this in Dust can be real fun to play with (for me at least) but really needs to be balanced the hell out with the rest of the game for it to work.
GunBunnie DIOS EX. 1	Posted - 2013.03.19 19:23:00 - [43] - Quote Meh dropships are pretty useless overall with the current game modes and map size. If they release a drastically larger map, something the size of a BF2 map then I think more and varied aircraft would make sense. As it stands now they're a useless toy that costs way to much isk for very little benefit. A heavy version would either cost even more isk for little benefit, or completely dominate the small map for the few seconds it takes for the other team to switch to forge guns.
Chris F2112 Killshot Corp 5	Posted - 2013.03.19 19:25:00 - [44] - Quote I for one would love to see some heavier aircraft, especially something that could efficiently harass tanks and other vehicles.
Assi9 Ventox IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 10	Posted - 2013.03.19 20:01:00 - [45] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: As it stands there's a LAV, HAV, and "Dropship" which is technically a medium aircraft of some non attack variety. Would you like to see some heavy aircraft, and if so what would you like it to do? Lets not be too ridiculous here. Technically carrier fighters are single man attack craft. Maybe some of those. :D
Ganton Kable HoldSquare Reaper Dynamics 8	Posted - 2013.03.19 20:05:00 - [46] - Quote I would support a Liberator (from Planetside) type craft for sure.
WyrmHero1945 IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 52	Posted - 2013.03.19 20:10:00 - [47] - Quote ChromeBreaker wrote: I want some massive Zeppelin of doom reigning death from above!!! OMG this. With 6 turrets and bit smaller than MCC.
tribal wyvern ZionTCD Legacy Rising 695	Posted - 2013.03.19 22:18:00 - [48] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: As it stands there's a LAV, HAV, and "Dropship" which is technically a medium aircraft of some non attack variety. Would you like to see some heavy aircraft, and if so what would you like it to do? Lets not be too ridiculous here. There's going to be heavy aircraft, look at the icon screen when a map is loading and you will see
Coleman Gray RED COLONIAL MARINES Covert Intervention 91	Posted - 2013.03.19 23:04:00 - [49] - Quote A heavy gunship would be cool, have all the turrets pointing to the front so face on it's decimate people and vehicles ect while it would have a fairly large "blindspot"
Klivve Cussler Ransoms Incorporated 66	Posted - 2013.03.19 23:05:00 - [50] - Quote I'd love to see CCP re-purpose the existing carrier-based fighters as land-based aircraft and use them as the light aircraft. Carrier-based fighters I think they would fit perfectly, and would pave the way for the eventual carrier-level orbital support option. As for heavies, they'd have to be smaller than the MCC. I lol'ed when I read the "wouldn't it be cool to have a huge airship looming over our heads shooting missiles" comments. Next skirmish match, look up. I think a heavy gunship would be about right, with either more light turrets, or a single heavy turret, more armour and shields, and less manouverability.

Zekain Kade BetaMax. CRONOS. 1015	Posted - 2013.03.19 23:07:00 - [51] - Quote I tank flying via a cluster of balloons. FEAR THY COLORFUL DOOM.
Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2143	Posted - 2013.03.20 00:29:00 - [52] - Quote Please CCP, gimme the Heavy aircraft
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 700	Posted - 2013.03.20 00:37:00 - [53] - Quote Sleepy Zan wrote: Please CCP, gimme the Heavy aircraft That's not even an aircraft zan, that's a spaceship
Dalton Smithe OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 68	Posted - 2013.03.20 00:44:00 - [54] - Quote I would like to see an "assault" drop ship. Something that takes an entire squad to use to its fullest, with two belly turrets and one top turret for defending against hostile aircraft. Guided munitions for anti tank warfare, and some weapons for the pilot to use, so they can get some kills themselves....
StarBurst Stream OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1	Posted - 2013.03.20 01:14:00 - [55] - Quote Screw all your heavy aircraft! I just want my MTAC.........
Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2144	Posted - 2013.03.20 18:24:00 - [56] - Quote gbghg wrote: Sleepy Zan wrote: Please CCP, gimme the Heavy aircraft That's not even an aircraft zan, that's a spaceship Is it a vehicle sustaining altitude in midair? thought so b****
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 1251	Posted - 2013.03.20 18:37:00 - [57] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: As it stands there's a LAV, HAV, and "Dropship" which is technically a medium aircraft of some non attack variety. Would you like to see some heavy aircraft, and if so what would you like it to do? Lets not be too ridiculous here. **** yeah.


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