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Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.03.07 02:00:00 -
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Skytank ftw!
There isn't much to be done with heavy aircraft, but I wouldn't imagine they would be as OP as people may think- my fighter will make sure of that. |
Charlotte O'Dell
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.03.07 02:07:00 -
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+1 |
Magpie Raven
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.03.07 02:20:00 -
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Iago Templar wrote:WARNING Slightly off topic.
I look forward to all the new types of Aircraft but I have a theory about fighters and bombers. Last year at Fanfest they showed a graph with five pillars on the page and in this video the interviewer (wrongly I believe) said that that might mean that Dust 514 would go to PC, but the CCP staff said that they were five different IPs that CCP owns, obviously EVE, Dust and WOD that leaves two more pillars without announced IP's. I think one of those ideas is another cross platform game, i.e. a fighter/bomber game in which you play a pilot in both EVE and DUST, imagine that! You launch from a carrier up in space dogfight with the opposing fleets fighters, then at the command from your wing leader you cross the atmosphere threshold and scream into combat in lower atmosphere operations supporting the ground pounders in DUST with air strikes and/or further dogfighting support. Now I know what you're gonna say: - All the many Balancing issues.
- Lack of a market for flight sims.
- Technologys simply not there.
- Nightmare of three games crossing over as opposed to two, which is a monumental task.
BUTIf anyone can make it work CCP can. I have faith, *Puts on tin-foil hat* (Shh they're listening!) This is such a sexy idea. I would love flying.g off a supercarrier are dodging flak cannon fire from enemy battleships. Abiding enemy fighter to do a bombing run on a capital ship. Although I think that dust player will be able to fly air vehicles in game another game where we play fighter pilots in space would be awesome |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1089
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Posted - 2013.03.07 02:23:00 -
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This stuff will come into the game and you cant deny it. Why you ask? Take a look at the symbol legend. There are light and heavy aircrafts listed. There is aswell a icon for the medium ground vehicle. Now for those that dont know it: the dropship/bolas are classified as "medium aircrafts". And the MCC has its own icon so there are 3 vehicle categorys to come. I want a proper gunship like a Hind-D with alot of firepower not that crappy dropship. Fighters would aswell be nice. All aircrafts will probably be based on VTOL's with different acceleration. And dont forget the bigger a vehicle gets the slower it becomes. I imagine fighters would work like the harrier. Well the future for infantry will be hars, very harsh and brutal. Simply cause CCP loves it to see expensive stuff go pop. |
Nguruthos IX
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.03.07 02:31:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:This stuff will come into the game and you cant deny it. Why you ask? Take a look at the symbol legend. There are light and heavy aircrafts listed. There is aswell a icon for the medium ground vehicle. Now for those that dont know it: the dropship/bolas are classified as "medium aircrafts". And the MCC has its own icon so there are 3 vehicle categorys to come. I want a proper gunship like a Hind-D with alot of firepower not that crappy dropship. Fighters would aswell be nice. All aircrafts will probably be based on VTOL's with different acceleration. And dont forget the bigger a vehicle gets the slower it becomes. I imagine fighters would work like the harrier. Well the future for infantry will be hars, very harsh and brutal. Simply cause CCP loves it to see expensive stuff go pop. don't forget Mtacs though
or whatever they're called.
I'd rather be an infantry in a massive map with vehicle chaos everywhere than on the ground in some call of duty clone.
Infantry won't have it so bad, considering they'll also be able to get in the LAV's, Tanks, Dropships, Gunships, possibly fighters, and if my dreams come true some heavy aircraft with a drone bay and laser turrets.
Not to mention they won't have to front the expense of all those fun vehicles being destroyed constantly.
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Brandon brownx
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.03.19 14:53:00 -
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I would love to see some Heavy aircraft be put in to the game. An idea on how i think they should look is like the much larger ships you would use in star wars battle front 2, with afew modifications. Aslo they should have different mods for it since it will be air born and will be a easyier target. |
Galthur
CrimeWave Syndicate
27
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Posted - 2013.03.19 15:18:00 -
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"ETA 15 seconds" 'Caldari RDV crashes into a Gallente tank'
That's your heavy aircraft |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
296
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Posted - 2013.03.19 15:28:00 -
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I want some massive Zeppelin of doom reigning death from above!!! |
Charlotte O'Dell
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
54
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Posted - 2013.03.19 16:14:00 -
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I think we need something with 20000 HP and 2 large turrets- the ultimate tank killer. But it'd be a big slow target. |
The2 Holgg
BetaMax. CRONOS.
50
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Posted - 2013.03.19 16:22:00 -
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yes something like this
http://youtu.be/6nKruyRwaMM?t=5m25s
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ICECREAMK1NG
WARRIORS 1NC
436
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Posted - 2013.03.19 16:33:00 -
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ooh yeah, more vehicles, just what this fps needs to bring it back to life. |
Specter RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.03.19 18:47:00 -
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Wondering if the Heavy Aircraft might be a sort of variation of the Warhawk KT-424 Dropship with some good capabilities Ups - 6 Mann-able Missile Turrets (Heat seeking against Aircraft (AA)) - 6 Machine Gun turrets (3 On each side (Only operable by the pilot) and can only be used 3 at a time at one side) = Very powerful Close to mid range Machine gun turrets that are very effective against personnel, and vehicles alike - Capable of carrying Ground Vehicles except the APC (See Below for APC) = Can carry LAVs and Tanks with people in them as well = Can load the flag on a vehicle and take the vehicle with the person that has the flag back to the allied flag for capturing - Fast in flight Mode - High HP - Uses Chaffs (Flares) to avoid missile confrontation (x3)
Downsides - Slow in Combat mode (When Machine guns can be used) - Slow when picking up vehicles - Very low survivability without backup or Missile turret gunners - High Priority Target at any time - Noticeable on the Map no matter what - Low Defensive capabilities (When only pilot)
And another thing I want to see is a Heavy Transport Vehicle like an APC Theres an APC in Warhawk as well that is very well rounded in its capabilities, heres all the ups and downs Ups - Heavy Armor and large HP - Very fast with Charge Boost thrust = Can take out LAVs with the boost as well as other APCs and Aircraft stupid enough to be within jumping range or on the ground being a derp - Able to deploy a Force Field = Force Field allows soldiers and vehicles to fire out and resists any incoming fire = Force Field can destroy ANY aircraft that touches it - Can carry 6 infantry units who can also fire out with their own weapons they obtained - Internal spawning system (Can be spawned on after death)
Downsides - Highly noticeable on the Map, but can still be hidden sometimes - No actual weaponry of its own - High Priority Target because of spawning capabilities - Force Field can be destroyed by = Destroying the deployed device in the center of the circle = Hitting with a EMP weapon = Another APC Deploys its own force field in it or if the field touches it (Overlaps) - Force field also has a small hole on the top of its dome which can lead to TOW Missiles going in or strikes going into it - Can be destroyed by other APCs
So yeah, I wonder if any of these can be put in in a way differently in Dust514 as heavier vehicles. They are greatly diversified in how they work honestly and I think they're both great concepts in the world of Warhawk. Too bad Starhawk doesn't have these because I used to use the hell out of em back in Warhawk. Any variation of this in Dust can be real fun to play with (for me at least) but really needs to be balanced the hell out with the rest of the game for it to work.
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GunBunnie
DIOS EX.
1
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Posted - 2013.03.19 19:23:00 -
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Meh dropships are pretty useless overall with the current game modes and map size. If they release a drastically larger map, something the size of a BF2 map then I think more and varied aircraft would make sense.
As it stands now they're a useless toy that costs way to much isk for very little benefit. A heavy version would either cost even more isk for little benefit, or completely dominate the small map for the few seconds it takes for the other team to switch to forge guns. |
Chris F2112
Killshot Corp
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Posted - 2013.03.19 19:25:00 -
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I for one would love to see some heavier aircraft, especially something that could efficiently harass tanks and other vehicles. |
Assi9 Ventox
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.03.19 20:01:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:As it stands there's a LAV, HAV, and "Dropship" which is technically a medium aircraft of some non attack variety.
Would you like to see some heavy aircraft, and if so what would you like it to do? Lets not be too ridiculous here.
Technically carrier fighters are single man attack craft. Maybe some of those. :D
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Ganton Kable
HoldSquare Reaper Dynamics
8
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Posted - 2013.03.19 20:05:00 -
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I would support a Liberator (from Planetside) type craft for sure. |
WyrmHero1945
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
52
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Posted - 2013.03.19 20:10:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:I want some massive Zeppelin of doom reigning death from above!!!
OMG this. With 6 turrets and bit smaller than MCC. |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
695
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Posted - 2013.03.19 22:18:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:As it stands there's a LAV, HAV, and "Dropship" which is technically a medium aircraft of some non attack variety.
Would you like to see some heavy aircraft, and if so what would you like it to do? Lets not be too ridiculous here.
There's going to be heavy aircraft, look at the icon screen when a map is loading and you will see |
Coleman Gray
RED COLONIAL MARINES Covert Intervention
91
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Posted - 2013.03.19 23:04:00 -
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A heavy gunship would be cool, have all the turrets pointing to the front so face on it's decimate people and vehicles ect while it would have a fairly large "blindspot" |
Klivve Cussler
Ransoms Incorporated
66
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Posted - 2013.03.19 23:05:00 -
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I'd love to see CCP re-purpose the existing carrier-based fighters as land-based aircraft and use them as the light aircraft.
Carrier-based fighters
I think they would fit perfectly, and would pave the way for the eventual carrier-level orbital support option.
As for heavies, they'd have to be smaller than the MCC. I lol'ed when I read the "wouldn't it be cool to have a huge airship looming over our heads shooting missiles" comments. Next skirmish match, look up. I think a heavy gunship would be about right, with either more light turrets, or a single heavy turret, more armour and shields, and less manouverability.
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Zekain Kade
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1015
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Posted - 2013.03.19 23:07:00 -
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I tank flying via a cluster of balloons.
FEAR THY COLORFUL DOOM. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2143
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Posted - 2013.03.20 00:29:00 -
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Please CCP, gimme the Heavy aircraft |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
700
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Posted - 2013.03.20 00:37:00 -
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That's not even an aircraft zan, that's a spaceship |
Dalton Smithe
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
68
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Posted - 2013.03.20 00:44:00 -
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I would like to see an "assault" drop ship. Something that takes an entire squad to use to its fullest, with two belly turrets and one top turret for defending against hostile aircraft. Guided munitions for anti tank warfare, and some weapons for the pilot to use, so they can get some kills themselves.... |
StarBurst Stream
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
1
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Posted - 2013.03.20 01:14:00 -
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Screw all your heavy aircraft! I just want my MTAC......... |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2144
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Posted - 2013.03.20 18:24:00 -
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gbghg wrote:That's not even an aircraft zan, that's a spaceship Is it a vehicle sustaining altitude in midair? thought so b**** |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1251
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Posted - 2013.03.20 18:37:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:As it stands there's a LAV, HAV, and "Dropship" which is technically a medium aircraft of some non attack variety.
Would you like to see some heavy aircraft, and if so what would you like it to do? Lets not be too ridiculous here. **** yeah. |
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