I agree. It would take something creative to overcome the strength in numbers. So I'd have to do some planning. I know I will die 150 times. But will any one of you die once? That for me is the real question.

The rules are simple: you have to kill me 150 times before (or if) I kill one of your guys/ destroy a tank or a dropship, whether you are in it or not. Destroying an LAV would not count, however, if you die in it, it would count.

If one you dies for any reason, I win. So remember to activate your dampner when jumping out of the MCC.

that's not a challenge. I'm not chasing you around to kill you 150 times. Too boring

I would just take the money from wining the match and let you quit dust.

Let me know when your ready to donate me the 100 million

I think we could be of service. I'll talk it over with my fellows. Don't worry, we've plenty of scrubs in our corporation (I am one) to give you a fighting chance.

You said you'd steal it.

Anyone who accepts this wager is just going to steal it.

Why pay you the ISK if all they have to do is lock down the NULL cannons and take your money anyway?

Ha! I think it occured to you I might just get one of you. All you big corps run in numbers and pub stomp like that is real entertainment. That, my dust friend, is equally just as boring. Looks like the imperfects are rich and don't need the risk.

Fine by me. Maybe a middle level corp would like to try to earn the biggest contract yet.

No hacking objectives

150-0 would win from your point of view.

Yes, I would quit if it was stolen. Maybe there are folks who don't care a damn if I play this game. But then again, I don't want to commit to a community that does such a thing, and they would be doing me a favor, giving me an excuse not to game with them.

I'd like to ask why you've been jumping from corporation to corporation. I also see your current one was made very recently, on the 28th.

Pretty much. I don't really feel like playing against eight of CrimeWave Syndicate's best for 100m. How about any of you?

EvE is built on stuff like this, man. You're going to be stolen from, you're going to be backstabbed, and you're going to me cheated (most likely).

If it's going to be a real issue with you, then you might not want to stick around.

I'd like to ask the previous corps if they are missing any isk?

Also 150 kills seems ridiculous, even the worst players can luck into a tank or drop ship getting crushed by the deployment ships.

I'd like to ask why you've been jumping from corporation to corporation. I also see your current one was made very recently, on the 28th.

Too many tactics to guarantee at least one kill. And I guarantee no one is going to pay up once the isk is in their wallet.

One dude should go play something else. This whole thing is ridiculous and your logic is insane. I'm out.

Dude, where interacting with simulated version of an alternate realtiy. Loosen up on the logic demands.

I'm pretty sure he's calling you short-sighted and naive.

Which you are being. No one will seriously accept this wager when all it takes is a lucky shot from a Forge Gun to OHK any suit ever. They'll lock down all the NULLs, take your money, and walk away.

Also: Team play is exactly what nearly all of DUST is being built around. It's not a lonewolf game, and will never be designed for that. If you aren't interested in teamplay, then I must admit that I do not think that this game is for you.

First real scam in DUST?

Too obvious, but I'm sure a lot of the soft targets here on DUST will fall completely for it.

Remote explosives or other traps can harass a superior force and cause them to lose a few clones without seriously affecting their ability to control an area. In that way DUST is working as intended.

[quote=Jotun Hiem]I have to explain something to you about a lone wolf. It's a misconception that what they do does not help the team. In many cases, not all, the lonewolf wants to win just as bad, if not more then the pack mentality.

This mindset see things that perhaps the pack may not, and the only way to take action on it, is to stray off.

If you mean lock down the nulls by hacking objectives, hacking would not be allowed in this match. Nothing, no supply depots, blasters, objectives.

Some people feel safe in numbers during a match, and yet from the sounds of it, they are surrounded by a gaming community of shadiness and nobody should to be trusted. I can't let that contradiction just slide.

I'm an honest person.

I'm an honest person. Is that so rare?

If people want to call me naive for getting my isk taken, then okay. But the way I look at is I wouldn't be spending real money on the game in the future.

Who knows. If the corp did pay out, maybe they'd then have me as a member and that money would follow back in . . .

Doth protest too much.

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I'm not that great a player, and I could win as the solo player with these rules and running only Blueprints (including my Merc Pack gear).

That said, it's an interesting challenge, and I'd be interested in seeing it happen with someone.

My corp doesn't (yet) have a full complement of 8 players available within the same timezone, and we're nowhere near the 100 million ISK it would take to go after this, but I'll talk to some of them and see if we can come up with something. You may or may not hear from me at some point in the future. Whatever happens, I wish you luck.

I know.

what is that?

Let us, for the sake of my amusement, pretend the OP is the underdog (pun intended). He is a dog, versus 8 komodo dragons, who have claws, muscular tails, possess patience and ability to camouflage, serrated teeth and saliva with 50 strains of bacteria that causes almost all bitten to die of blood poisoning.

1v8, he has no chance. 1v1, still, no chance.

But this isn't the case, is it? There are 150 dogs that the 8 komodo dragons have to kill.

All without one dragon dying.

The hunter becomes the hunted.

There's no telling how this kind of match would go. I'm mean I can picture things. And I'm sure some corps out there are picturing things too.

I've heard some of these corps talking in matches and they have incredible communication. A lot of what I would be doing would be predictable when I was hoping it was not. So I'm wondering how I would adapt when I'm cornered time after time after time.

I imagine some of my deaths would be immediate. But I would have to do some thinking in between spawns. Meanwhile they have eyes on.

what is that?

As I posted above, you have a single designated target you have to kill and the opposing side has to keep him alive.

That's a far better test of lone wolf skills than one lucky kill of an unimportant target. Anyone can toss a bomb and kill a bodyguard, but can you get the valued target?

I'll do it. Lets see. 2 tanks, 2 snipers, 2 LR, 2 heavys. Good Luck.

Interesting.

However. I still don't see that as a lone wolf situation since he is relying heavily on his teamates, in the background from a positional sense. Most times, maybe not in this match, the lone wolf is an aggressor, who enters parts of the battlefield, unprotected and sometimes out numbered, but most of all, by surprise. It involves some stealth, and unknown risk. Sometimes he pays dearly for it.

It is the "other" frontline.

Interesting.

However. I still don't see that as a lone wolf situation since he is relying heavily on his teamates, in the background from a positional sense. Most times, maybe not in this match, the lone wolf is an aggressor, who enters parts of the battlefield, unprotected and sometimes out numbered, but most of all, by surprise. It involves some stealth, and unknown risk. Sometimes he pays dearly for it.

It is the "other" frontline.

I'll do it. Lets see. 2 tanks, 2 snipers, 2 LR, 2 heavys. Good Luck.

Also, quick question... How's the "losing" corp meant to be giving you those winnings you earned?

One sniper, well-stealthed Scout suit and the right skills, one headshot on anyone but the Heavies.

Or if any of the tanks is a Militia-fitted Soma, one Swarm Launcher guy can kill it with a bit of skill and a lot of luck.

Never said where they would be located. I would actually only send the two tanks and prepare the popcorn for the snipers to get ready.

I'm actually not opposed to good players joining KILLSTAR Co. and having a regular corp battle. I'm the only one right now. So you can see why something like this 100 million corp battle is action for me, any action.

Never said where they would be located. I would actually only send the two tanks and prepare the popcorn for the snipers to get ready.

A good sniper can avoid tanks, and spot enemy snipers before he's seen - especially when he has 150 chances to do so.

I'd probably be able to win this with one of my (several) Shotgun/SMG loadouts. Maybe even the Militia Blueprint one.

I'm not afraid of snipers. I am of tanks. That's why I've been trying to improve my AV skills. I'm sure your snipers would get me. But do you really want to play like puss bags?

So why not just put up a Million ISK contract for any corp to grab. Same outcome, just cheaper.

If you want a war you get a war.



All's fair in love and war. -George Washington

If I were you I would take Kreyshawn up on the 1v1. You will get your face handed to you in a bag but you will learn many things.

Fo Reelz

Well, I've admitted there are better players than me in a KDR battle. What I'm suggesting is entirely different. I could kill him once.

so 1/150?

Not to shabby I'd say.

You obviously have no appreciation for the unique part of the challenge. Good luck with the same old. 7 years of skills.

Never mind people stealing my ISK, the fact that some people probably wouldn't step outside their tank or would snipe me shows me something about some of you.

I do and told you how to do it much much much cheaper. Thnkskbai.

Welcome to war. Guess why we have long range missles? So we dont get too close. HTFU.

I'm willing to take on 8, I'm hard enough.

Besides, if it was real war, I'd be running for the hills, because the soft stay alive. STFU

You would be running thats right. Please close this thread. Sorry your bluff was called. Don't want to hear about you being tough or your one CB. No one cares. Move along.

You little dictator of threads.

Maybe I'll just give the ISK to pink fluffy bounty hunterz, no battle, just give to you guys.

What, who said _you_ were being scammed?

I'm saying _you_ are the _scammer_. It's pretty simple to do, and used in high-sec all the time to gank people during wars. Basically they start a war with using a corp with just a couple people, and once the targets think they're safe they add lots of people to the corp.

So you're hoping to get someone to put down 100M in a bet, then get in lots of good players (I assume you know some, else you wouldn't be running this scam) and stomp them.

Seriously, I gave you good advice. Just write the check off as therapy.

Hey, Dude, I'll take your friend on 1V1 for 100 mil ISK. I'm down. What's his name?

He posted in this thread, find it 2-3 page?.

No you find it. You were rude saying he'll rip my face off. So you're involved. Organize it.

So you ask for an 8v1 and now you trash talk people who run in squads?

Hell, I'll 1v1 you for the 100m, I can put up the money.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vimZj8HW0Kg

I am serious here.

I am the only one in my corp, Killstar Co. and I have that amount of ISK to risk.

It would be 8 on 1. And yes, I would get slaughtered. But If I kill one of you/ destroy one tank or dropship, then you owe me 100 million ISK, in addition to the full wager being returned. There would be some rules, like I can't snipe. There would be no hacking anything.

The rules are negotiable.

I would explain why I would be willing to do this in other posts, but it would probably bore you.

It would be very possible that once you win the match, which you will, that even if I got the one kill, your corp might swindle me. I am prepared for that. I will just quit dust. And I guess your corp name would go down in Dust Lore for good or bad.


I don't know, any takers?

I'm disappointed that nobody's tried to take the guy up on his offer - even if they do ask for a small - or large - change to the rules.

Also, LOL Supply Depots.

Post #62.

Enough people have warned me against it. I wont be doing isk transactions with anyone. Just gonna play the random pubs. Win some. Lose some.

We have at least 3 people with pvr's. Just imagine seeing your actions in 3 different points of view. Heck hire the IMPS for protection (that whats this game is about right) if you feel the need.

Enough people have warned me against it. I wont be doing isk transactions with anyone. Just gonna play the random pubs. Win some. Lose some.

So you won't 1v1 me?

What a dumb thread

I posted that response to your challenge so early in the thread's life too..

does anyone else think he'll get someone to accept the contract thinking it'll be easy money and he comes in last minute with two full squads from another big corp?? Dont know if you can do it, but if he has two people in his corp they could theoretically have two full squads of (mostly) imperfects or whatever corp and just rob the other naive team of their money. Unless they changed it so that only corp members could join, but even that could be worked around.

that's not a challenge. I'm not chasing you around to kill you 150 times. Too boring

I would just take the money from wining the match and let you quit dust.

Even if you killed someone, but their corp won the match, what makes you think they'd give you the money?

I'm kinda disappointed. I was hoping he would work out a new game mode that CCP might include later.

I think a good challenge might be Assassination where the target is in a squishy suit and is the only one allowed to hack. He has to take all three Null Cannons at least once and has to stay alive the whole match to win. The assassin has to kill him just once before time runs out or he is cloned to win. The rest are body guards.

Those rules should expose the target enough to simulate an important figure making a trip, and give the lone wolf a chance while putting some pressure on him to get the job done. They would undoubtedly need to be tweaked to balance the game, but it would be a fun change up from endless Skirmish or Ambush.

You could just do it for 1 mil until you get it balanced and it would be a blast.

LoL so have the "VIP" in one of two idendicle tanks with 4 lavs surrounding it going letter to letter. nice.

Dude its a ccp game , you get scammed to death for 100mil , wish you well in a other game , bey o/

OH MY GOD!!

This guy is fearless and the rest of you in this thread are frightened pathetic little kittens. Stop making excuses, the OP is betting 100 freaking Million ISK for an 8v1 match where the odds are not in his favor. If he wins this wager and you scam him, your really beloe the lowest of scumbags out there, plus your corp will go down in history as the biggest bunch of losers in DUST history.

IT'S EITHER PUT UP THE MONEY OR STFU!!!

Enough people have warned me against it. I wont be doing isk transactions with anyone. Just gonna play the random pubs. Win some. Lose some.

Post #62.

Have you not read the whole thread?

God this community is so damn pussified. See what you kittens did? You just scared the OP off and hence destroying the most interesting and greatest event that would've occured in this game so far.

I stopped at page 4. *Sigh*

I really would've liked to see this thing happen.

If you want a war you get a war.



All's fair in love and war. -George Washington

Trying to see how this could be a scam, but cant.

He is the only player in his corp too.

Didn't Killshot get scammed not too long ago? Or am I mistaken for another Corp, how did you earn 100mil ISK from just playing Pub matches?

The rules are so flawed, for all we know you could be exploiting a new WP gltich to get an Orbital.

Just recruit some people and put a contract up for 1mil ISK. Not a lot of people will trust this sorty of thing. There are so many ways to get 1-Hit KOs in Dust that I dont think this is worth the time or effort.

So you won't 1v1 me?

What a dumb thread

I posted that response to your challenge so early in the thread's life too..

does anyone else think he'll get someone to accept the contract thinking it'll be easy money and he comes in last minute with two full squads from another big corp?? Dont know if you can do it, but if he has two people in his corp they could theoretically have two full squads of (mostly) imperfects or whatever corp and just rob the other naive team of their money. Unless they changed it so that only corp members could join, but even that could be worked around.

Chribba or Nova will provide judging and distribution services for you if you want to participate in this, you know, for a small fee. Adhering to any rules and transferring the money uppn an outcome should be a non-issue.

The COG always has a place for a man with your spirit if ya ever wanna join a Corp haha

Thanks. But people told me stories about eve and seems to have entered dust. Also not sure about middlemen.

It could be a scam in that he promises to come alone, but brings a full team, takes the Null Cannons, wins the match, and walks off with the contract money. He may have only one in his corp now, but it's easy to add more at short notice and he only needs one more to run two squads and invite ringers.

Always good to be cautious, but should you require assistance I'd be happy to help if I can (more of what I offer up in space https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=6492)

/c

I earn ISk playing pub matches because this is a game of potential loss and I finally adjusted to that after years of other shooters.


It wasn't a scam. I offered an unusual challenge so peeps think there is a trick. Going against tanks and whatever they throw at me is okay, but the idea that I might get one of them while they 7 kill assist me is unfair? Yeah, too easy. Joke.

Nah, I don't

don't respond to dumb threads, save your smarts

i ignored your first post because it had nothing to do with what I was offering.