I personally don't think OHK's should exist in this game, except in cases of people with very light shields/armor.

Being OHK'd by a tank/large turret is one thing... but bringing 150, 200, sometimes even 300k worth of gear onto the battlefield, just to be taken out instantly by a damage modded militia shotgun, or a sniper rifle, or even, if you're caught unprepared, an LAV, or melted in 1-2 seconds by a laser rifle...

I mean, honestly, it just seems cheap. I'm not even talking specifically about pub matches, this math just shouldn't ever add up. I guess maybe I'm off base, but if so, how do you justify it? I suppose you could argue physics, but whats the point of even upgrading shields/armor if you're still being offed by militia/cheaper gear before you even have a chance to react?

we could argue the cons of these weapons, shotgun you have to be at least 15 meters away to do any damage, etc. but the reality is, all the current skirmish maps are full of bottlenecks, those being the objectives. You have to take objectives to win the game. The moment you start hacking, the whole map knows where you are.

All it takes is one suicidal shotgunner to run past your backup and flatten you. free for him, ???k for you.

Now, hypotheticals aside, I say the higher tiers of dropsuits/modules should have a damage buffer to prevent OHK's. Two shots is ... acceptable, at least then you have some semblance of a chance to survive. perhaps give the prototype suits an emergency buffer? if you would be alpha'd, some kind of regulator kicks in to overload the shields? hell if I know. sounds OP as hell, I'm sure you fine lady's and gent's can think of something a little more balanced?

unless you're cool with being OHK'd, in which case, I guess I'll just go on raging alone over what I percieve to be a broken mechanic in a currency-based shooter.

most of the guys that ohko you in a suit with heavy hp can be ohko'd themselves by almost anyone.

Hello sir,

I had a 1.2 million isk tank and a war barge thought it was funny to drop a supply depot on me.

most of the guys that ohko you in a suit with heavy hp can be ohko'd themselves by almost anyone.

This is me when I'm running a shotgun... and don't manage to sneak up on someone "Oh sh*t, oh sh*t, oh sh*t!".

There's a point missed here, though. You can get that one-hit-kill with a free suit. Sure, you can die easily, but it costs you nothing. Your risk is negligible, and by comparison your reward is much higher.


The problematic OHK's are ones like the Militia Shotgun. If it was a proto SG then I could understand. That guy's risking a lot of ISK just to get that kill! When it's a militia, though, there's nothing wagered on his side.

I personally don't think OHK's should exist in this game, except in cases of people with very light shields/armor.

Being OHK'd by a tank/large turret is one thing... but bringing 150, 200, sometimes even 300k worth of gear onto the battlefield, just to be taken out instantly by a damage modded militia shotgun, or a sniper rifle, or even, if you're caught unprepared, an LAV, or melted in 1-2 seconds by a laser rifle...

I mean, honestly, it just seems cheap. I'm not even talking specifically about pub matches, this math just shouldn't ever add up. I guess maybe I'm off base, but if so, how do you justify it? I suppose you could argue physics, but whats the point of even upgrading shields/armor if you're still being offed by militia/cheaper gear before you even have a chance to react?

we could argue the cons of these weapons, shotgun you have to be at least 15 meters away to do any damage, etc. but the reality is, all the current skirmish maps are full of bottlenecks, those being the objectives. You have to take objectives to win the game. The moment you start hacking, the whole map knows where you are.

All it takes is one suicidal shotgunner to run past your backup and flatten you. free for him, ???k for you.

Now, hypotheticals aside, I say the higher tiers of dropsuits/modules should have a damage buffer to prevent OHK's. Two shots is ... acceptable, at least then you have some semblance of a chance to survive. perhaps give the prototype suits an emergency buffer? if you would be alpha'd, some kind of regulator kicks in to overload the shields? hell if I know. sounds OP as hell, I'm sure you fine lady's and gent's can think of something a little more balanced?

unless you're cool with being OHK'd, in which case, I guess I'll just go on raging alone over what I percieve to be a broken mechanic in a currency-based shooter.

There's a point missed here, though. You can get that one-hit-kill with a free suit. Sure, you can die easily, but it costs you nothing. Your risk is negligible, and by comparison your reward is much higher.


The problematic OHK's are ones like the Militia Shotgun. If it was a proto SG then I could understand. That guy's risking a lot of ISK just to get that kill! When it's a militia, though, there's nothing wagered on his side.

I personally don't think OHK's should exist in this game, except in cases of people with very light shields/armor.

Being OHK'd by a tank/large turret is one thing... but bringing 150, 200, sometimes even 300k worth of gear onto the battlefield, just to be taken out instantly by a damage modded militia shotgun, or a sniper rifle, or even, if you're caught unprepared, an LAV, or melted in 1-2 seconds by a laser rifle...

I mean, honestly, it just seems cheap. I'm not even talking specifically about pub matches, this math just shouldn't ever add up. I guess maybe I'm off base, but if so, how do you justify it? I suppose you could argue physics, but whats the point of even upgrading shields/armor if you're still being offed by militia/cheaper gear before you even have a chance to react?

we could argue the cons of these weapons, shotgun you have to be at least 15 meters away to do any damage, etc. but the reality is, all the current skirmish maps are full of bottlenecks, those being the objectives. You have to take objectives to win the game. The moment you start hacking, the whole map knows where you are.

All it takes is one suicidal shotgunner to run past your backup and flatten you. free for him, ???k for you.

Now, hypotheticals aside, I say the higher tiers of dropsuits/modules should have a damage buffer to prevent OHK's. Two shots is ... acceptable, at least then you have some semblance of a chance to survive. perhaps give the prototype suits an emergency buffer? if you would be alpha'd, some kind of regulator kicks in to overload the shields? hell if I know. sounds OP as hell, I'm sure you fine lady's and gent's can think of something a little more balanced?

unless you're cool with being OHK'd, in which case, I guess I'll just go on raging alone over what I percieve to be a broken mechanic in a currency-based shooter.

There's a point missed here, though. You can get that one-hit-kill with a free suit. Sure, you can die easily, but it costs you nothing. Your risk is negligible, and by comparison your reward is much higher.


The problematic OHK's are ones like the Militia Shotgun. If it was a proto SG then I could understand. That guy's risking a lot of ISK just to get that kill! When it's a militia, though, there's nothing wagered on his side.

This is a game of risk vs reward the risk to you may be minimal but that doesn't mean the reward should be, i regularly risk my 450k isk dropship for no reward, so people complaining about losing suits to starter shotgun fits need to HTFU.

there's 0 investment. you invested in your dropship unless it's militia... but even then if it's costing you 450k your at least paying for the fittings or have skills for level 1 versions.

the militia weapons cost like 3 moldy pennies and a ball of lint.

yes they require such a small investment its laughable, but how can you let such a glass cannon get into his effective range with such a short range weapon, shotguns are practically point blank in terms of effective range. If he can get that close to you without dying he deserves that kill

if that's directed at me i feel the same way about militia weapons getting ohkos. it just seems to be the shotgun atm tho, and like someone else said that'll probably be nerfed.

I think the fact that almost anything can be destroyed instantly suits that theme of unpredictabiility that CCP has tried so hard to capture in EVE. I've never actually played it, but I've heard that those giant space penises, termed titans, can be taken out by a few good and relatively miniscule cruisers or battleships of some sort.

Now, if a tank can be crushed by a random supply depot, if lampposts can explode dropships, if shotguns can destroy heavies, well we just happened to be in the wrong place in the wrong time, or we weren't playing correctly, or the other side (in the case of the shotgun dilemma) was playing smart.

An immortal mercenary's future is unforseeable, so it is how we handle the situation when it comes that defines us.

Think 1hk's are bad?

Try being in a 500,000 isk drop ship with maxed skills and defenses but still being 1shot by a forge gun. that cost considerably less to say the least.

No warning, only death

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