Yea because significant recoil on an AR after hip fire is clearly good for balance in this game, when you compare it to other weapons, your a moron.

@TheMarkOf22

Okay, lets say we have it your way and all the amount of recoil accumulated automatically resets to zero when ADSing. The major probably I see with that is a possible exploit where players in CQC/hipfire range battles quickly tap the L1 to reset their recoil, essentially giving players sustained, accurate hip fire.

This game mechanic that you want is less desirable than what we have now.

are you trying to compare it to real life? if so, there only one recoil pattern

How are other games able to keep both separate? are you dumb?

one shouldnt effect the other

How are other games able to keep both separate? are you dumb?

one shouldnt effect the other

it makes no sense to have 3 different bullet patterns

You keep saying that it has 3 different bullet patterns. I'm not seeing it.

Could you please describe these different bullet patterns you are seeing?

ofcourse you dont see it, your a casual gamer....

here's proof it's a bug.

When you shoot from the hip in dust you get no/low recoil and high/moderate bullet spread, when ADS'd you get moderate recoil and no bullet spread.

When you ADS after hip firing you get HIGH recoil and HIGH bullet spread, HOW DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

Yea because significant recoil on an AR after hip fire is clearly good for balance in this game, when you compare it to other weapons, your a moron.

People need to make up their mind. "Whaaa... I want a weapon to require real skill to use!" Weapon has an aspect that requires a bit of real skill. "Whaaa... This is a bug." Make up your minds.

As for calling me a moron. I like when you show your immature side.

it makes no sense to have 3 different bullet patterns and recoil, when you consider the fact most weapons only have 1.

also, maturity it overrated, try playing some other shooters and you would know this....

I've experienced the same thing and it IS a bug. sometimes my rifle hardly kicks back at all (ARO 5) but then other times if i hip fire then hold L1 it just goes absolutly everywhere and you have to tap L1 again to try get it under control. dunno if its just with ARO5 because since i got that my Exile rifle has been awful to use

I just tried your method to work around this "bug" for an entire ambush match. Each and every time I tapped L1 while firing off 60 rounds in one volley, the recoil increased in a linear fashion each and every time. The only way to get your gun under control is to let go of R1 for like a split second. The moment you cease fire, recoil returns to zero and you are able to regain control of the gun.

It's really that simple, I understood this concept in first few matches when iron sights was first introduced a while back ago. It's not that difficult of a concept.

and did it wrong?

i said if you're hip firing and go to iron sights while still firing the rifle will bounce around. if you continue to fire but quickly re-tap L1 the rifle will 'reset' the kickback and become stable again. all the time your firing. Its common sense to burst the firing thats not the issue. the issue is the insane kick around if you do things in wrong order.

Wow, what a thread. I love just standing back and smelling the dysfunction.

Just to restate this to make it clear in my head.

AR hip fire has kick (recoil) that gets progressively worse the longer you fire it.

That is nearly completely negated while using L1 (ADS, aka aiming down the sights).

If one Starts Hip Firing it will not stop if L1 is Added to the control. Now we are shooting and aiming. Recoil will get massively worse.

One Must Stop Firing before switching to ADS.

Then Aim and Start Firing for ADS to work normally.

This is by design. Recoil gets worse the longer one hip fires. Switching to ADS does not stop the condition that starts the constantly increasing recoil. Only stop firing does that.

If this thread was a bug the subject line would have [Bug] at the beginning of the subject line. Thus it is not a bug.



Technical details follow:
For those that are interested in the software consider this, the weapon is firing and is in a state of continuously increasing recoil. Adding aiming to the mix and the level of zoom will adjust accordingly. That will dramatically affect the bullet (whatever) spread that is already recoiling making the result massive because of the modifications to the bullet cone. Since the recoil is Triggered by Hip Fire and it designed to Increase over time adding ADS does not Stop Recoil from being continually added. The Recoil Increase will only Stop when Firing has stopped. It would appear that the bullet cone is being constantly increased with longer firing and that ADS does not effect the cone unless Recoil Increase is not active.

Thus, it is by design.

One could argue that it shouldn't be that way, as the OP did, but ADS increases the zoom and tightens the bullet cone IF Recoil is not active. If Recoil is active it would appear that the zoom is changed but the bullet cone is not reset. One could code it such that Recoil is stopped instantly with ADS but CCP is about punishing mistakes. Or at least about paying the consequences of decisions, however you look at that issue.