TL;DR

Edit: After I read it i feel like an ass

Dear god. This is terrifying at best. This is definitely something we need to act upon as a community. I am willing to volunteer to help educate these people. Who else is with me?

Dear god. This is terrifying at best. This is definitely something we need to act upon as a community. I am willing to volunteer to help educate these people.

One shot at a time?

*Looks at HMG*

I can't do that. Oh well, 2000 RPM it is.

Today I stumbled upon a very teeth grinding discussion going on in local chat.

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Apparently this game is god awful, broken and unplayable. The game will be set at $60 a copy once the beta is over, all the weapons suck and can't be equipped.

CCP will most likely drop this game after 6 months because even though it's free no one is playing it lolol(Points to players list).

(Hey I saw someone driving tank how do I get one?) Don't even bother bro, you have to save like 1,000,000 SP just to drive one and you have to pay another million to buy it. Only the pay 2 win guys drive them.

SP is stupid, I should be able to earn as much as I want. Everybody runs around with AUR items, so the rest of us can't compete, I'll never support a pay 2 win game.

Also guys, CCP has said they will delete your characters after the beta is over, what a bunch of scammers, I already paid for the mercenary pack. The worst part of it all is that corporations are useless, what can you do with a corp? it's basically just a useless friends list, but since they charge real money for a simple feature like voice chat? F*ck em!

The only good classes are the Assault rifles and the Heavy's, shouldn't be surprised a no name Developer like CCP couldn't get a simple thing like balancing right the first time.

This game lags so bad, I shot a dude 45 times in the head and he turned around and killed me, at least Call of Duty and battlefield have dedicated servers.

(I told them CCP is going to be giving out expansions and patches for free) lol Yeah right, if that's true then that just confirms that the game is going to be Pay to play once it releases, how else would the company make money, im not paying $60 a month for this garbage.

(told them that SP, Caps, sound fixes and more content is coming) Oh yeah? where's the proof you keep saying soon, soon, lol I think your in denial and just another CCP fanboy/advertiser.


.....I was seriously teed off during this. This is only a fraction of some of the things that were being said by these people, I would usually just deem these guys idiots, laugh out loud, and move on about my business but what caught my attention was that this BS was actually spreading!! More and more people joined in on the discussion, with more and more people becoming convinced that what these guys were saying was actually true. People who claimed they were liking the game suddenly found reasons to hate or drop it all together. Even though I'm a genius, a single genius cannot educate a sea of fools. I was praying somebody out there with a brain would eventually step in to help me out. Nope, I sat there for long well over the time I should have trying to tell these guys what's up and at the end of it all I got no where.

This kinda of thing is counterproductive to what the community and the game needs right now, this game will only continue to grow for as long as it's player base keeps up. Having people like this just flat out spout nonsense and lies will turn people away from the game. I'd like to see more players once in while to just drop by in local chat and answer a newbie's question before somebody else with a f%cked up agenda gets to them first.

Unfortunately most of those are very valid criticisms for FPS players new to the game, expecting yet another FPS. Such players are used to instant gratification. Hell, FPSs didn't have any unlocks until recently; you could use every gun in a game the second you launched multiplayer. Even nowadays in FPSs with unlocks they rarely give you an edge, just variety, and almost never as much of a boost as in Dust (even after the nerf to proto gear).

FPS players need to change their mindset. e, and has much deeper gameplay mechanics hidden beneath a rather dull exterior and obtuse UI. Until the mindset is changed, the P2W perception will stay, and the critique remains. It's is a steep uphill battle for us and CCP to change the mindset. Dust is F2P, so people don't think twice in deleting the game when their face gets melted yet again by a vet in proto gear.

Finally, perception is everything. That's all that matters in the end, and if perceptions described in the OP spread, the game will suffer, or fail. Fixing every single misconception, and fixing the few legitimate concerns (lag and fps being foremost, extremely poor and conflicting communication about character wipe at launch, and UVT costing money) should be CCP's priority. Us players can also help fix such misconceptions, but it's hard.

Is there a down rate button, on the local channels so i can down rate these idiots?

I also very much question some of these people in local if they even play or have the inability to understand.

CoD fanboys, the lot of them.
never been in a real beta before.
sigh, would it even be worth educating them?

This game lags so bad, I shot a dude 45 times in the head and he turned around and killed me, at least Call of Duty and battlefield have dedicated servers.

Still a better game than Call of duty.

If they make a move from dust to call of duty with no RPG background its hopeless fo them

The call of duty players have a short attention span and are quick to judge.

They expect to walk in the game , hit a default fit , and run and gun thinking they're going todo work.

Today I stumbled upon a very teeth grinding discussion going on in local chat.

---

Apparently this game is god awful, broken and unplayable. The game will be set at $60 a copy once the beta is over, all the weapons suck and can't be equipped.

CCP will most likely drop this game after 6 months because even though it's free no one is playing it lolol(Points to players list).

(Hey I saw someone driving tank how do I get one?) Don't even bother bro, you have to save like 1,000,000 SP just to drive one and you have to pay another million to buy it. Only the pay 2 win guys drive them.

SP is stupid, I should be able to earn as much as I want. Everybody runs around with AUR items, so the rest of us can't compete, I'll never support a pay 2 win game.

Also guys, CCP has said they will delete your characters after the beta is over, what a bunch of scammers, I already paid for the mercenary pack. The worst part of it all is that corporations are useless, what can you do with a corp? it's basically just a useless friends list, but since they charge real money for a simple feature like voice chat? F*ck em!

The only good classes are the Assault rifles and the Heavy's, shouldn't be surprised a no name Developer like CCP couldn't get a simple thing like balancing right the first time.

This game lags so bad, I shot a dude 45 times in the head and he turned around and killed me, at least Call of Duty and battlefield have dedicated servers.

(I told them CCP is going to be giving out expansions and patches for free) lol Yeah right, if that's true then that just confirms that the game is going to be Pay to play once it releases, how else would the company make money, im not paying $60 a month for this garbage.

(told them that SP, Caps, sound fixes and more content is coming) Oh yeah? where's the proof you keep saying soon, soon, lol I think your in denial and just another CCP fanboy/advertiser.


.....I was seriously teed off during this. This is only a fraction of some of the things that were being said by these people, I would usually just deem these guys idiots, laugh out loud, and move on about my business but what caught my attention was that this BS was actually spreading!! More and more people joined in on the discussion, with more and more people becoming convinced that what these guys were saying was actually true. People who claimed they were liking the game suddenly found reasons to hate or drop it all together. Even though I'm a genius, a single genius cannot educate a sea of fools. I was praying somebody out there with a brain would eventually step in to help me out. Nope, I sat there for long well over the time I should have trying to tell these guys what's up and at the end of it all I got no where.

This kinda of thing is counterproductive to what the community and the game needs right now, this game will only continue to grow for as long as it's player base keeps up. Having people like this just flat out spout nonsense and lies will turn people away from the game. I'd like to see more players once in while to just drop by in local chat and answer a newbie's question before somebody else with a f%cked up agenda gets to them first.

I'm surprised they don't try to make a case for killstreak bonuses. That's usually at least somewhere in a list of CoD fan gripes about a game.

CoD fanboys, the lot of them.
never been in a real beta before.
sigh, would it even be worth educating them?

these morons are very easy to troll- you just keep ignoring them and setting up squads in their face, talk about you corp, discuss game play but don't acknowledge them at all and they go total ape sht after a while because you're playing the game they hate. I've seen them just log out because they're being ignored, dont feed them at all, you can't argue with idiots and can't expect others to want to sit in local and argue with these ppl, just take in the ones who show interest..

or how do they say on BF3 forums;

Quote:

COD is that way.

now you get to say that to the self proclaimed more evolved BF3 crowd, just quote them their favorite catch phrase and move on from there.

This is an entirely wrong point of view for several reasons:

- CoD fanbois are a huge market segment
- Lot of CoD players are really good at FPSs. Scary good.
- Many smart people play CoD
- CoD player isn't and shouldn't be a four-letter word for us

What I'm saying is that there's no excuse to ignore or belittle a just because they happen to be fans of a certain game.

(FWIW my AAA FPS of choice is Battlefield and Killzone series)

It's what you get for the massive lack of communication.
Instead of informing people, CCP relies on hearsay and mouthbreathers.

Their loss.

This is an entirely wrong point of view for several reasons:

- CoD fanbois are a huge market segment
- Lot of CoD players are really good at FPSs. Scary good.
- Many smart people play CoD
- CoD player isn't and shouldn't be a four-letter word for us

What I'm saying is that there's no excuse to ignore or belittle a just because they happen to be fans of a certain game.

(FWIW my AAA FPS of choice is Battlefield and Killzone series)

There will always be misinformation, rumor, and supposition about an MMO, especially one like DUST 514 which is reaching into a new market, going after an audience that doesn't traditionally play MMOs, and is still in beta. When confronted by people who are spreading incorrect information, the best thing to do is to politely and calmly point them in the direction of the forums, the Twitter feeds of DUST developers, and some of the better player streams/blogs out there.

If they persist, you can always ignore them.

Today I stumbled upon a very teeth grinding discussion going on in local chat.