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Zion Shad
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.31 17:00:00 -
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I would like to add the ability to place a bounty on players. Once a bouny is placed have it show a $ in green over their head so that any who shoot them in a Pub match will get a bonus to their ISK reward.
EDIT: It will bring a new breed of PUB Bounty Hunters and with it should come a Bounty Kill Board showing the Top Bounty hunters.
We are Mercenaries and are by trade a hired killer.
We are expected to be paid by Capsuleers to kill one another, why not allow us on a personal level be hired to kill an individual.
How will it work?
We it will be much like the EVE Bounty Hunting system. You enter a match and bring up the list of Mercs on both team. Next you notice that some of those Mercs in your Ambush map have Wanted signs over there Pic. Not only this but there is a $ or a skull next to their health bar making them an easier target in a crowed.
Each time you kill someone with a bounty you earn X% of their suit, gun and fitting. This ISK is then paid out from the total bounty placed until the bounty runs out. The Idea is revenge or at lest some satisfaction for any reason you choice. Having the person marked will draw extra attention to them in game costing them more deaths and ISK in fittings.
Virex Staz wrote:+1
As long as the bounty is only paid out when equipment is destroyed, and is less than the value of the equipment, I don't see a problem with this.
Fred puts a 1 mill ISK bounty on Bob; this goes into Fred's bounty "pot". Bob goes into a match in a 100K suit. Jane kills Bob. John the logi revives Bob; no payout for Jane :-( Maurice kills Bob, who then bleeds out; 100K of gear is destroyed Maurice gets 20K out of the 1 mill bounty pot.
Zion Shad wrote: Lest say someone from Imp Kills you or Trolls you and you want to get back at them in some way.
You would then search their name in-game under People & places
You then press X on their name to bring up the menu of how you want to interact (such as Info, add contact, send message and so on)
An option would be there that says GÇ£ADD BOUNTYGÇ¥ so you click it and ADD say 1 Mill ISK
Now a GÇ£WANTEDGÇ¥ sign is placed on the person that is selected profile Pic. So when he enters a match, ANY Players within that match will see this on his Pic and know if they kill him, they will earn extra ISK. (You know that Huge Screen in the War Barge that shows everyone in the match)
During the Match he will have some sort of a mark next to his Health Bar to attract a little more attention on him in order to invoke more Death upon him. This in turn will mess with his KDR, cost loss in SP that he could earn total for that match, loss in fittings and loss in ISK. The Community extracts your revenge for you.
For Players who kill him in any random PUB match, they will earn say 25% of his total gear (Dropsuit, Modules, Weapons and Equipment) within that life (and while we are at it how about they can gain some of that gear in salvage).
So if he is wearing a total of 100k in gear that means the person who kills him once will earn an additional 25k to their end total of the match (Thats a good ammount when PUB matches only pay around 250k). That 25K will come out of the bounty knocking it down from 1 mill to 999,975 ISK. Each time he is killed the same thing happens until the Bounty is completely gone.
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If this idea was already up please link. Thank you |
BursegSardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.01.31 17:56:00 -
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MOAR BOUNTIES! I'm sure CCP Punkturis would agree. |
Deranged Disaster
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.01.31 19:18:00 -
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Oh yes dude, great idea. |
YourDeadAgain76
Red Star.
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Posted - 2013.01.31 19:23:00 -
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Zion Shad wrote:I would like to add the ability to place a bounty on players. Once a bouny is placed have it show a $ in green over their head so that any who shoot them in a Pub match will get a bonus to their ISK reward. If this idea was already up please link. Thank you
+1 this is the best idea ive herd all day. |
Coleus Rattus
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.31 19:28:00 -
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Seeing as death is quick meaningless for us dustbunnies, I don't think a bounty mechanic would make sense. Killing redberries is the main way of interacting with them, so i don't think that you need an additional incentive to promote murdeous behaviour in dust, unlike eve, where people can and do have careers NOT focused on killing people, and where tracking down and successfully engaging is a much harder and riskier task... |
Zion Shad
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.01 00:43:00 -
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Coleus Rattus wrote:Seeing as death is quick meaningless for us dustbunnies, I don't think a bounty mechanic would make sense. Killing redberries is the main way of interacting with them, so i don't think that you need an additional incentive to promote murdeous behaviour in dust, unlike eve, where people can and do have careers NOT focused on killing people, and where tracking down and successfully engaging is a much harder and riskier task...
You sir are a sad person who want to suck the fun out of everything.
If you don't enjoy KILLING and making a little more ISK doing it, Move along your not welcome here. This would bring more meaning to killing and it would add a whole new twist to the Pub matches.
It will bring a new breed of PUB Bounty Hunters and with it should come a Bounty Kill Board showing the Top Bounty hunters. |
Auriel Aedean
Gunslingers Corporation. GmbH
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Posted - 2013.02.01 00:45:00 -
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This is awesome. I would love to do this!
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Kain Spero
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.01 01:54:00 -
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More ways to motivate death and player interaction? +1
Implementing this in a game like Dust could prove interesting. Make it like Eve maybe? |
slystylz vassar
Military Gamers
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Posted - 2013.02.01 02:49:00 -
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Pilots use this as a ploy to steal money from noobies in EVE. Get a bounty then have someone kill you, take the bounty from your enemy; then split it with your friends. I see corp vs 1 making your bounty pointless. |
Zion Shad
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.01 03:16:00 -
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slystylz vassar wrote:Pilots use this as a ploy to steal money from noobies in EVE. Get a bounty then have someone kill you, take the bounty from your enemy; then split it with your friends. I see corp vs 1 making your bounty pointless.
LOL
With the new Bounty Mechanic in EVE you only make %20 of the worth of the ship so your wrong on that part. It's no longer worth it as an exploit. You will always take loss.
This would be in Pub matches only and I think should be the same way (like %25 of the Suit and fitting form the total bounty) that way the person being killed will still receive loss, even if they could get a Corp mate to Q sync with and happen to Randomly end up on the reds.
Your argument is not really there. |
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
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Posted - 2013.02.01 03:20:00 -
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+1 |
MR ExPresident
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.01 04:43:00 -
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So let me get this straight... You want to pay me more money to kill a guy who someone put a bounty on and he'll be marked with a $ symbol?
Lock and Load. |
dasgunt514
Royal Assassins Guild Imperial Crimson Legion
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Posted - 2013.02.01 05:08:00 -
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I like the bounty idea, but it's already been mentioned that clones are cheap. So I'm not sure that killing the clone would be worth a bounty. Killing his gear certainly is! My feeling is that you should be awarded money equivalent to the gear that you destroyed, until the bounty runs out. |
XXfootnoteXX
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.01 05:24:00 -
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dasgunt514 wrote:I like the bounty idea, but it's already been mentioned that clones are cheap. So I'm not sure that killing the clone would be worth a bounty. Killing his gear certainly is! My feeling is that you should be awarded money equivalent to the gear that you destroyed, until the bounty runs out.
I am pretty sure this is how it is set up in EvE. That way, you cant just get your buddy to get the kill.
So.
10m bounty on player X. Player X has 100k worth of gear on? You get 100K every time you kill him. |
Herrick Arcos
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.02.01 05:29:00 -
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The fact that clones are cheap is definitely outweighed by the fact that there are many Tanker's and Dropship pilots that loose a big chunk of money with each loss. Not to mention that soon there will be a bunch of Proto peeps running around. I could see this being very, very infuriating once your the primary target because all the red's see is a big dollar sign hanging over your head.
*ISK sign. |
Ragmesesis
The Lusitans
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Posted - 2013.02.01 06:47:00 -
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Zion Shad wrote:I would like to add the ability to place a bounty on players. Once a bouny is placed have it show a $ in green over their head so that any who shoot them in a Pub match will get a bonus to their ISK reward. EDIT: It will bring a new breed of PUB Bounty Hunters and with it should come a Bounty Kill Board showing the Top Bounty hunters. If this idea was already up please link. Thank you do you really want that??? to make gank at others do you really know gamming history to even ask that there has been suicides and violence because of genk in other games like in WOW first of i think thats also a crime its called bulling but on a game if they do that ccp will be tryed to get sue because on openly bulling lolol and to be honest long term view i see many corps shutting down because they are gank at (and yes i call gank because thats not a bounty hunters think thats a gank thing) people said to me they are immortals proud and etc... if they are that they would not go down and do things like that that idea is a low point for me and for waht the results will make i think its a bad idea this bulling boad it will cause nothing but trouble |
XXfootnoteXX
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.01 06:54:00 -
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Ragmesesis wrote:Zion Shad wrote:I would like to add the ability to place a bounty on players. Once a bouny is placed have it show a $ in green over their head so that any who shoot them in a Pub match will get a bonus to their ISK reward. EDIT: It will bring a new breed of PUB Bounty Hunters and with it should come a Bounty Kill Board showing the Top Bounty hunters. If this idea was already up please link. Thank you do you really want that??? to make gank at others do you really know gamming history to even ask that there has been suicides and violence because of genk in other games like in WOW first of i think thats also a crime its called bulling but on a game if they do that ccp will be tryed to get sue because on openly bulling lolol and to be honest long term view i see many corps shutting down because they are gank at (and yes i call gank because thats not a bounty hunters think thats a gank thing) people said to me they are immortals proud and etc... if they are that they would not go down and do things like that that idea is a low point for me and for waht the results will make i think its a bad idea this bulling boad it will cause nothing but trouble
Seriously?
This is New Eden. You clearly have not lived here very long.
Let me make it a bit simpler. There is nothing to do in this game BUT kill and be killed. There is no industry, there is no other roll but combat. Do you think people come to this game not to get killed? This just adds to objectives. |
Ragmesesis
The Lusitans
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Posted - 2013.02.01 07:13:00 -
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XXfootnoteXX wrote:Ragmesesis wrote:Zion Shad wrote:I would like to add the ability to place a bounty on players. Once a bouny is placed have it show a $ in green over their head so that any who shoot them in a Pub match will get a bonus to their ISK reward. EDIT: It will bring a new breed of PUB Bounty Hunters and with it should come a Bounty Kill Board showing the Top Bounty hunters. If this idea was already up please link. Thank you do you really want that??? to make gank at others do you really know gamming history to even ask that there has been suicides and violence because of genk in other games like in WOW first of i think thats also a crime its called bulling but on a game if they do that ccp will be tryed to get sue because on openly bulling lolol and to be honest long term view i see many corps shutting down because they are gank at (and yes i call gank because thats not a bounty hunters think thats a gank thing) people said to me they are immortals proud and etc... if they are that they would not go down and do things like that that idea is a low point for me and for waht the results will make i think its a bad idea this bulling boad it will cause nothing but trouble Seriously? This is New Eden. You clearly have not lived here very long. Let me make it a bit simpler. There is nothing to do in this game BUT kill and be killed. There is no industry, there is no other roll but combat. Do you think people come to this game not to get killed? This just adds to objectives.
Seriously?
And this is earth were the real reactions take place did you live long in it? i say this because in WOW i knew people that was happening and that was awful there are people that only play one game and dont move from game to game insted they play invest in a character and lets say that character is gank at by a corporation gank day after day after day what would be that guys reaction like every game he enters a bullseye on him not letting him do nothing. lolol go and search what gank is and what happends in real life what happends after you shut down new eden to go along to your day. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.02.01 07:55:00 -
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Hard to think how this would work when DUST mercs die on a daily basis. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.02.01 08:05:00 -
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@Ragmesesis
What the frakk are you talking about? Are you high or just trolling? The New Eden galaxy has seen countless players ganked nonstop for the past 10 years straight and not one player was reported to have committed real world violence or a single suicide just because of what happened in Eve Online. There is no evidence of such things ever happening. At least to my knowledge and I have been playing Eve Online for nearly 7 years. I have heard everything and seen everything.
This is because every new player is quickly conditioned to accept the harsh reality of New Eden: adapt or die. If you come here expecting everyone to act nice we will do everything in our power to prove you wrong. |
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Razekial Flameclaw
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.01 08:36:00 -
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I was actually thinking the same thing Shad, but i'd have different mechanics for it for example in order to meet the bounty you would need to kill them X number of times in the game, some people die more than once or twice in a game so you would need a number say 5 deaths to meet the bounty.
You could enfore a time limit to be redeemable within the next 10 games or 24 hours or the like.
I'm not sure how you could be able to accept that bounty unless there was a mechanic in place that when you accept a bounty you 'follow' that person so can join their games if there is a free spot on the opposing team - it would take some wierd matchmaking to make it work. |
Zion Shad
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.01 12:10:00 -
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With it being a % of their gear they would still need to be killed a number of times before the bounty runs out of funds.
I more then anyone here should not want this, but I do. In EVE I already have 1 bill on my head and am sure to get the same treatment on Dust as well.
We are Mercs and being hired to kill is just what we do |
Virex Staz
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.01 13:03:00 -
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+1
As long as the bounty is only paid out when equipment is destroyed, and is less than the value of the equipment, I don't see a problem with this.
Fred puts a 1 mill ISK bounty on Bob; this goes into Fred's bounty "pot". Bob goes into a match in a 100K suit. Jane kills Bob. John the logi revives Bob; no payout for Jane :-( Maurice kills Bob, who then bleeds out; 100K of gear is destroyed Maurice gets 20K out of the 1 mill bounty pot. |
Coleus Rattus
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2013.02.01 13:30:00 -
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Zion Shad wrote:You sir are a sad person who want to suck the fun out of everything. If you don't enjoy KILLING and making a little more ISK doing it, Move along your not welcome here. This would bring more meaning to killing and it would add a whole new twist to the Pub matches. It will bring a new breed of PUB Bounty Hunters and with it should come a Bounty Kill Board showing the Top Bounty hunters.
Nah, I don't want to suck otu fun. In fact, I have so much fun killing redberries that I don't need an incentive to make me kill them.
But if you want to financially spice things up, how about "corporate sponsorships"?
It has been established in this thread that the loss of gear is more important than the loss of a merc.
Thus my idea: You make a contract with gear manufacturers, and everytime you kill someone using that gear, you get a provisional payment of a fraction of the worth of his gear, as your victim will havr to rebuy it. Buy killing him and destryoing his gear,you basically ensure that his supplier still has a paying customer!
Also, that way, your monetary incentive wouldn't be restricted to a single dustbunny, but to everyone using gear by that manufactuer! |
Zion Shad
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.01 16:32:00 -
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Coleus Rattus wrote:Nah, I don't want to suck otu fun. In fact, I have so much fun killing redberries that I don't need an incentive to make me kill them.
But if you want to financially spice things up, how about "corporate sponsorships"?
It has been established in this thread that the loss of gear is more important than the loss of a merc.
Thus my idea: You make a contract with gear manufacturers, and everytime you kill someone using that gear, you get a provisional payment of a fraction of the worth of his gear, as your victim will havr to rebuy it. Buy killing him and destryoing his gear,you basically ensure that his supplier still has a paying customer!
Also, that way, your monetary incentive wouldn't be restricted to a single dustbunny, but to everyone using gear by that manufactuer!
It would be nice, but the mechanics to facilitate this are a long, long ways off. What would first need to happen is full market integration followed by a revamp of how BPOs work in DUST. This means they will have to be turned in to a normal BPO that is used to generate items instead of just being applied to a load out for infinite use.
Most of the mechanics for this Bounty system can easily be placed in game and could be done before or by Fan Fest of this year |
JohnDS Wolf
Exit Wound Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2013.02.01 17:50:00 -
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Yah, bounty systems in PUB matches wouldn't work. not with the lore anyway, you're a clone and you're cheap to replace. i can just comeback and i'm not actualy dead. If anything, the company sponsourship is a much better idea. sence the gear is worth more than you.
instead it should be more twords the end of devolpment and be added to EvE and Dust once we can hitch a ride with our Pilot buddies. where you can have multipul bounty objectives such as, Capturing the ship, Taking the wanted ALIVE, a Spasific Exicution, and ect.
The bounty system could be glorious and wonderful chance for Dust and EvE players to work together. |
Geth Massredux
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.01 21:24:00 -
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+1
I do like the idea of a bounty system. I just started playing EVE online and the bounty system looks cool. Well Retribution trailer. MEH
But anyways I give my thumbs up for this.
Of course there should be some setbacks to the bounty system in Dust. Because if players think that other player is too good, They might as well spam good players of Bountys.
So like a system to were you have to be a certain level or maybe it takes money to get money so you have to pay a certain amount of ISK to issue a bounty.
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Zion Shad
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
1620
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Posted - 2013.02.01 23:42:00 -
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JohnDS Wolf wrote:Yah, bounty systems in PUB matches wouldn't work. not with the lore anyway, you're a clone and you're cheap to replace. i can just comeback and i'm not actualy dead. If anything, the company sponsourship is a much better idea. sence the gear is worth more than you.
instead it should be more twords the end of devolpment and be added to EvE and Dust once we can hitch a ride with our Pilot buddies. where you can have multipul bounty objectives such as, Capturing the ship, Taking the wanted ALIVE, a Spasific Exicution, and ect.
The bounty system could be glorious and wonderful chance for Dust and EvE players to work together.
You miss this part or did you just read my title and felt that it was enough to open your mouth?
Zion Shad wrote: Each time you kill someone with a bounty you earn X% of their suit, gun and fitting. This ISK is then paid out from the total bounty placed until the bounty runs out. The Idea is revenge or at lest some satisfaction for any reason you choice. Having the person marked will draw extra attention to them in game costing them more deaths and ISK in fittings.
This is base on the Bounty Hunting system in EVE, so yes it goes with the lore just fine and since you die more in DUST, players can make a far amount of ISK if they kill you more than once. When I get home IGÇÖll set up the Math.
Also take a look at the revenge part of my quote while your at it. |
Coleus Rattus
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2013.02.01 23:52:00 -
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Zion Shad wrote:
This is base on the Bounty Hunting system in EVE, so yes it goes with the lore just fine and since you die more in DUST, players can make a far amount of ISK if they kill you more than once.
Wait, isn't the bounty paid by the guy who's set it? So his expenses would grow drastically if the bounty isn't paid once, for one kill, but for every kill! I don't think anyone would set up a bounty on someone, if the fugitive could just trololol the hard earned ISK away by playing as a pacifist, dying at every opportunity... especially as he can do it without any cost to himself, thanks to the free starter fittings...
Also, would suicides reward the wanted player? |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1594
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Posted - 2013.02.02 00:37:00 -
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Virex Staz wrote:+1
As long as the bounty is only paid out when equipment is destroyed, and is less than the value of the equipment, I don't see a problem with this.
Fred puts a 1 mill ISK bounty on Bob; this goes into Fred's bounty "pot". Bob goes into a match in a 100K suit. Jane kills Bob. John the logi revives Bob; no payout for Jane :-( Maurice kills Bob, who then bleeds out; 100K of gear is destroyed Maurice gets 20K out of the 1 mill bounty pot.
Exactly how it works in Eve right now. The old bounty system was just too exploitable in Eve. |
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