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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2013.02.01 03:33:00 -
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Cygnus Gogela wrote:If you allow friendly fire in random instant battles and don't have a feature to block people from matchmaking who teamkill this game is going to get really old really fast. SoTa PoP wrote:Friendly Fire is going to add to the Meta to this game. It'll allow a lot more then griefing. I can finally duel my blue berry allies to show them to HTFU or STFU on comms ;) Dust is not EvE. In EvE teamkilling gets expensive. Lets say you have 5 HACs in your fleet and then a teamkiller joins you. That's fine... think he can take you all? Hell no. Particularly not in his militia gear / Ibis. If he has a command ship he might take one of you down... but not all... and it'll be expensive. In DUST, I could wipe out my entire team in a random battle before anyone could do anything about it. It's not the same thing at all. Friendly fire is fine in a public match if two features are present: The ability to boot someone on your team who kills you from the match, AND the ability to block them from joining you in future public matches. If CCP doesn't do both of those things, I will personally guarantee you I will teamkill the hell out of this game until they change their minds. ...because if I can't have fun I'll see to it no one can  There will be no HTFU. There will be only me destroying spawn points and when they are all gone camping my own MCV. You'll be dead before you hit the ground. 
And when two Shotgun Heavies drop on either side of you, followed by a couple of Assaults with AR and LR a few seconds later?
Or when that Scout spawns at ground level and is already sprinting as he spawns in, setting down new Uplinks and defending them from you as well as the enemy team?
How about if there are penalties for TKing in pub matches? You might slaughter everyone, but you won't progress at all in any way while doing so, and when you're still running Militia gear because of it, and your teammates have Protosuits, you're not killing so fast any more.
You can't honestly say that your suggestion is the ONLY way for FF to work, and that option would also be exploitable by players, but in groups rather than alone. Join a pub match, but don't like someone on your team? Kick vote, tell your friends. Or kick vote, tell everyone he's a TKer whether it's true or not, get someone kicked by a pub lobby for something you made up. Seen it happen in games with vote kick options before. |
Dreemboat
Contract Hunters
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Posted - 2013.02.01 04:01:00 -
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I was TK'ed today while triaging another doode.
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Chibi Andy
Celtic Anarchy
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Posted - 2013.02.01 08:35:00 -
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its going to be a scene where everyone will settle their scores 
you'd be running with your team mates/blue berries and when you least expect it, you get shot in the back by the so called team mate /blue berries. plenty of internal conflict hahaha |
DropKickSuicide
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.02.01 08:44:00 -
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I can see Logis following Heavys just to shoot them and then repair them just for extra points.
I also see greifing becoming a very big problem in Pub Matches.
Just a warning if FF comes to PUB matches I will feel no remorse if run in front of my HMG or Forge Gun |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.01 08:46:00 -
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Friendly
Fire
Won't
Be
In
Pub
Matches. |
AWZX
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.02.01 09:00:00 -
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1. 50% friendly fire damage
2. A teamkill causes you to lose the same amount in ISK as the friendly you killed. This limits griefing on both ends: the teamkiller can't afford to keep doing it, and if someone purposely gets teamkilled, they will eventually run out of money for fits as well.
3. Limit on teamkills per game before being automatically kicked, 3-5
If it's not coming at all to random battles and is only for corp battles, then that's a different story and shouldn't really have any limitations. But it is possible to implement friendly fire in random pubs, just has to be carefully implemented. |
Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.01 13:44:00 -
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After yesterday, I WANT FF in pub matches. Idiots running me over in a LAV, then spend the rest of the match in buildings so I can't return the favor. Jackass blueberries shooting me in the head while I try to snipe (FYI, friendly fire throws off your aim, esp while sniping) and standing in front of my shot. Reject blueberries in a tank dragging me across the map because I ran a fat suit and wasn't fast enough to get out of the way when I saw it pop over a hill at full speed. I actually had one guy flying around the map on my side trying to land a dropship on my head FOR AN ENTIRE MATCH. He wen't through like 5 dropships just to try and crush me all match! WTF?! On and on and ON!
I still go by my proposed methods for punishing TKing earlier this thread, but I want to kill every last bueberry that f*cks with me in any way in every possible way that I can after the **** that went down yesterday... |
WASTED MERC
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2013.02.17 18:24:00 -
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Thats why I've getting run over by LAVs recently. I was wondering how did the red team manage to that, they didnt, its my own god damn team mates killing me and wasting my outfits. It was in a PUB match :( FF sux especially with noobs that have no idea.
FF should be more interrupting, like getting knocked over for a few seconds, so you can't actually get killed by team mates but if the enemy is around they have a huge advantage |
Kein-Engel
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.02.17 19:11:00 -
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WASTED MERC wrote:Thats why I've getting run over by LAVs recently. I was wondering how did the red team manage to that, they didnt, its my own god damn team mates killing me and wasting my outfits. It was in a PUB match :( FF sux especially with noobs that have no idea.
FF should be more interrupting, like getting knocked over for a few seconds, so you can't actually get killed by team mates but if the enemy is around they have a huge advantage
FF isn't turned on yet. It's just that some people know how to kill blueberries with LAV's. It's really easy. You just switch seats right before you hit them. |
TheMarkOf22
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.02.17 19:16:00 -
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good Idea for explosive weapons, bad idea for gun fire.
I can't wait to lose my suits to trolls, already bad enough I get sniped from 400 meters away by the weakest sniper or get spawned infront of a heavy suit.... |
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