Lol you think the answer is buffing snipers.....

they are useless. why not.

also whats your idea to fix the issue with heavies?

they are useless. why not.

also whats your idea to fix the issue with heavies?

Lol you think the answer is buffing snipers.....

Sniper rifles should have more damage because first off you dont have a lot of ammo, you can't use it in close quarters EFFECTIVELY, and it is infact, a sniper rifle.

well why not make a useless weapon more effective?

well why not make a useless weapon more effective?

We have already had open release. Eve is still "in beta" just like DUST will be until they shut down the servers.

well why not make a useless weapon more effective?

it seems that most peoples complaint with the hmg is range, the hmg alone does not have all that good of range. People that know what they are doing will skill into the sharpshooter to make all these tears possible. Either lessen the increase that sharpshooter gives per level, or slightly decrease the base range. Sniper rifles are the last weapon that need a buff, they are already overused as it is (and used pathetically in most cases) . Most of the people who retreat to sniping when losing would fair better by running on the ground and getting better. Most of these turds use their free sniper fit anyway. Buffing the sniper would create more snipers, not cool.

well why not make a useless weapon more effective?

Well, ive got two words for you SLEEPY ZAN. One day you know EXACTLY what im talking about. Send me a pm when that day comes so i can laugh .

Let me explain myself first.

Dust is like a role playing game, and a first person shooter. I've had experience with both.

Every game developer wants to have that meatshield class (heavy dropsuit)

Every game developer also wants a DD(damage dealer) (heavy dropsuit)

You can't have a dropsuit that has the most damage and the most health/armor/shield (whatever you call it here) it ruins the game. Like I said at the title, if you have one class that has the most damage and the most health is going to lead to a massive influx into that dropsuit. The logical answer is to give Sniper rifles more penetrating damage.

Sniper rifles should have more damage because first off you dont have a lot of ammo, you can't use it in close quarters EFFECTIVELY, and it is infact, a sniper rifle.

The lack of ammunition gives a good reason to give it a boost in damage to deal with heavies because if you miss, the heavy will notice a bullet just zipped by them, and will run into cover and then dissapear out of sight.

You can't really use a sniper rifle in close quarters, it takes more than one bullet to kill something, unless you're using a charge rifle which is still innefective because you have to charge it and by the time you charge it you're in the spawn screen. So there is little to no quickscoping in this game (which I like).

Sure you can pack a smg in your pocket but still you're going to get killed because of the lack of damage.
Also the sniper rifles need to be a little more useful, I mean c'mon lets stop this b.s. with the heavy lovers saying "hey dude, why dont you run off to your teammates and bring a few guys then, and only then will you be able to stop me" there needs to be weapon balancing, you can't have 5guys trying to kill one heavy, because like I've said before. What if there is a whole team of heavies? does your team instantly get 5x members on your team?

I just want to hear why this would/wouldn't be, a good idea for a nerf/buff to heavies. I know this will effect other classes but then again, other classes are much faster and can dodge bullets unless they stand still (a tip from me. never stand still for more than 3 seconds, and never go back to the same spot until 10seconds go by, people get impatient, or think you've left).

You haven't met sleepy an yet.

And the sniper rifle is the easiest gun in the game to get easy kills with, most new players use this weapon and hide behind the red line so they don't have to worry about getting killed. Nobody likes snipers cause they are useless to your team.

they are useless. why not.

also whats your idea to fix the issue with heavies?

That's not really a problem with the snipers but more of a player base issue. Snipers are in need of a minor buff imo, whether it's more ammo or increased shield penetration, they need something.

They're pretty underutilized as of now, I don't know if I'm just that Godlike but I can do exactly what a Sniper can do with my AR and a lot easier too. Oops shouldn't have said that, hope no nerfs come to my AR

If anything I say allow swarm launchers to lock onto heavies. Giving swarm launchers more purpose and a counter to heavies all in one. I do not see anything personally wrong with heavies(I run an assault). Im glad some people run heavies there would be no diversity right now. I just say swarm launchers because out of everything they have no purpose right now and id rather see them benefit than snipers.

That's not really a problem with the snipers but more of a player base issue. Snipers are in need of a minor buff imo, whether it's more ammo or increased shield penetration, they need something.

They're pretty underutilized as of now, I don't know if I'm just that Godlike but I can do exactly what a Sniper can do with my AR and a lot easier too. Oops shouldn't have said that, hope no nerfs come to my AR

If anything I say allow swarm launchers to lock onto heavies. Giving swarm launchers more purpose and a counter to heavies all in one. I do not see anything personally wrong with heavies(I run an assault). Im glad some people run heavies there would be no diversity right now. I just say swarm launchers because out of everything they have no purpose right now and id rather see them benefit than snipers.

they are useless. why not.

Let me explain myself first.

Dust is like a role playing game, and a first person shooter. I've had experience with both.

Every game developer wants to have that meatshield class (heavy dropsuit)

Every game developer also wants a DD(damage dealer) (heavy dropsuit)

You can't have a dropsuit that has the most damage and the most health/armor/shield (whatever you call it here) it ruins the game. Like I said at the title, if you have one class that has the most damage and the most health is going to lead to a massive influx into that dropsuit. The logical answer is to give Sniper rifles more penetrating damage.

Sniper rifles should have more damage because first off you dont have a lot of ammo, you can't use it in close quarters EFFECTIVELY, and it is infact, a sniper rifle.

The lack of ammunition gives a good reason to give it a boost in damage to deal with heavies because if you miss, the heavy will notice a bullet just zipped by them, and will run into cover and then dissapear out of sight.

You can't really use a sniper rifle in close quarters, it takes more than one bullet to kill something, unless you're using a charge rifle which is still innefective because you have to charge it and by the time you charge it you're in the spawn screen. So there is little to no quickscoping in this game (which I like).

Sure you can pack a smg in your pocket but still you're going to get killed because of the lack of damage.
Also the sniper rifles need to be a little more useful, I mean c'mon lets stop this b.s. with the heavy lovers saying "hey dude, why dont you run off to your teammates and bring a few guys then, and only then will you be able to stop me" there needs to be weapon balancing, you can't have 5guys trying to kill one heavy, because like I've said before. What if there is a whole team of heavies? does your team instantly get 5x members on your team?

I just want to hear why this would/wouldn't be, a good idea for a nerf/buff to heavies. I know this will effect other classes but then again, other classes are much faster and can dodge bullets unless they stand still (a tip from me. never stand still for more than 3 seconds, and never go back to the same spot until 10seconds go by, people get impatient, or think you've left).

If anything I say allow swarm launchers to lock onto heavies. Giving swarm launchers more purpose and a counter to heavies all in one. I do not see anything personally wrong with heavies(I run an assault). Im glad some people run heavies there would be no diversity right now. I just say swarm launchers because out of everything they have no purpose right now and id rather see them benefit than snipers.

Let me explain myself first.

Dust is like a role playing game, and a first person shooter. I've had experience with both.

Every game developer wants to have that meatshield class (heavy dropsuit)

Every game developer also wants a DD(damage dealer) (heavy dropsuit)

You can't have a dropsuit that has the most damage and the most health/armor/shield (whatever you call it here) it ruins the game. Like I said at the title, if you have one class that has the most damage and the most health is going to lead to a massive influx into that dropsuit. The logical answer is to give Sniper rifles more penetrating damage.

Sniper rifles should have more damage because first off you dont have a lot of ammo, you can't use it in close quarters EFFECTIVELY, and it is infact, a sniper rifle.

The lack of ammunition gives a good reason to give it a boost in damage to deal with heavies because if you miss, the heavy will notice a bullet just zipped by them, and will run into cover and then dissapear out of sight.

You can't really use a sniper rifle in close quarters, it takes more than one bullet to kill something, unless you're using a charge rifle which is still innefective because you have to charge it and by the time you charge it you're in the spawn screen. So there is little to no quickscoping in this game (which I like).

Sure you can pack a smg in your pocket but still you're going to get killed because of the lack of damage.
Also the sniper rifles need to be a little more useful, I mean c'mon lets stop this b.s. with the heavy lovers saying "hey dude, why dont you run off to your teammates and bring a few guys then, and only then will you be able to stop me" there needs to be weapon balancing, you can't have 5guys trying to kill one heavy, because like I've said before. What if there is a whole team of heavies? does your team instantly get 5x members on your team?

I just want to hear why this would/wouldn't be, a good idea for a nerf/buff to heavies. I know this will effect other classes but then again, other classes are much faster and can dodge bullets unless they stand still (a tip from me. never stand still for more than 3 seconds, and never go back to the same spot until 10seconds go by, people get impatient, or think you've left).

Heavies are fine. Even the MG. They may even need a buff on every suit past type 2. Howdoesthattaste is again spot on in his description of the challanges facing heavies.

A nerf to the suit itself would be an indirect tank buff. Given the prevalance of tanks, Don't you think that would be a bit unwise?

And yeah, buff snipers AND scouts in general. I don't think anyone really disagrees with that?

Heavies are going to get left behind in SP once we get soft capped. It takes too long to get places unless you gots a jeep.
The PUB match system is going to get alot faster in general. Faster matches with more WP = more skill points. Creates tremendous incentive to stomp pubs QUICKLY. Heavies have their place in this, but their move speed may ultimately hinder them in SP generation.

Less SP = Less likely to kill/ More likely to die.

Note: Ambush being the dominant game mode.
Also Note: The ability of the logistic suit to accrue WP quickly will make it much stronger relatively.

I don't think heavies should be nerfed but I don't agree that heavies are at a disadvantaged when it comes to WP the soft cap is set at 1000WP = 1000sp and I can easily reach that through kills and assists with my heavy alt. The slow thing is a weakness in combat but any good heavy has an LAV on standby for transport to attack/defend objectives.

Heavies are the best Damage Dealers?

My Shotguns would dispute that claim.

Heavies fill an area control/denial role on the battlefield. Get them into position, and they're hard to dislodge. Catch them out of position, and they go down hard.

A snipers role is not necessarily the counter to heavies.

The counter to heavies is ...
Other heavy users!

Sure you can, learn how to counter, scrub. Try playing heavy and then come back.

The game IS released,

- It is available to everyone.
- There will be no more rollbacks of SP or Isk.
- You can purchase in-game items for real money.

The label of Beta is just a poor excuse for a rushed product.

Also, please stop crying about balance issues. It's the smallest problem the game has at the moment.

While released, its not out of beta or 'launched' yet because the last necessary feature for it to be feature complete game for launch is not in yet.

It's just a label, what's so hard to understand about that? For all points and purposes as a consumer the game is released.

The game will never be complete.

any dropsuit should be able to kill the other dropsuit vs a 1v1.