and to think some skills have 1.2 million skill points.

that's 1200 battles.

A year of active call of duty 2 only netted me 600...

Still doesn't allow top-tier players to advance faster than above-average players.
why should i even try to pull down 2K+ WP a game when it caps at 1000? i'll just hit my 1k and go hide behind my redline for the rest of the game.

Still doesn't allow top-tier players to advance faster than above-average players.
why should i even try to pull down 2K+ WP a game when it caps at 1000? i'll just hit my 1k and go hide behind my redline for the rest of the game.

Still doesn't allow top-tier players to advance faster than above-average players.
why should i even try to pull down 2K+ WP a game when it caps at 1000? i'll just hit my 1k and go hide behind my redline for the rest of the game.

Still doesn't allow top-tier players to advance faster than above-average players.
why should i even try to pull down 2K+ WP a game when it caps at 1000? i'll just hit my 1k and go hide behind my redline for the rest of the game.

Still doesn't allow top-tier players to advance faster than above-average players.
why should i even try to pull down 2K+ WP a game when it caps at 1000? i'll just hit my 1k and go hide behind my redline for the rest of the game.

If you treat a game like this, how are you at your job?

If you treat a game like this, how are you at your job?

How am I having fun if I know every WP i get over 1,000 is useless? what's my incentive to revive teammates for those few extra SP? What's my incentive to repair ****? to hack objectives? to win a random pub objective game? You'll have to excuse me if that doesn't motivate me very much.

You are everything that is wrong with Dust mercs. Please go play another game if you don't care about winning matches.

How am I having fun if I know every WP i get over 1,000 is useless? what's my incentive to revive teammates for those few extra SP? What's my incentive to repair ****? to hack objectives? to win a random pub objective game? You'll have to excuse me if that doesn't motivate me very much.

I realize Dust's persistence, scope, and vision are all exciting and the future of the FPS genre, but remember when games didn't give you XP/SP or even log your stats and people played just for fun and to get better? Yeah, those were crazy times.

After you hit the SP cap, direct your focus to ISK acquisition. If you give up at 1000WP then you'll be surpassed by those who haven't maxed their SP and thus get a smaller share of the ISK. Even if you've already got a ludicrous amount of ISK, just try to keep your earnings at a consistent level. Pick a statistic (or all) and try to work on it. Just make sure if it's KD/R that you're not going after it to such a degree that it's detrimental to your team. I'm just throwing these out there as a alternatives you can play for, I know they're not as enticing an incentive as notching SP.

If the game wasn't literally centered around SP, I would have no issue playing this game "for fun."

I have tons of ISK and my KD/R is 3.25. honestly can't think of a legitimate reason not to idle after hitting 1K WP. I'll still get my ISK idling or not, so again, what's the point?

I have tons of ISK and my KD/R is 3.25. honestly can't think of a legitimate reason not to idle after hitting 1K WP. I'll still get my ISK idling or not, so again, what's the point?

Yes! I can finally have a day off from Dust! What does everyone plan to do with their day off?

You don't find the battles actually fun by themselves?

Well, you'll go on another game after hiting the cap ? Does it sound good to u ? And stop QQing when we have a viable TEMPORARY solution.

How am I having fun if I know every WP i get over 1,000 is useless?
Glory for the leaderbord ? Stats ? When you're the 1st one on pub match and on the win side, you got the most ISK !!!

what's my incentive to revive teammates for those few extra SP?
Save team8 ISK/AUR ? Run the objectif with the most people you've got ? Revive a medic that will revive you a second after ?

What's my incentive to repair ****?
To have always a heavy alive in front of you, taking bullets ? Oh yes sorry, you're the type of guy who stop repairing when you hit the SP time limitation, wait for it to come back, then repair again ... You're not a teamplayer...

to hack objectives?
Win the game ?

to win a random pub objective game?
Glory ? Leaderboard ? ISK ?

You'll have to excuse me if that doesn't motivate me very much.
Well, MMO is not for you !!! Go try something else !!!

Nothing else to say... This game is not for you.

I play in public rooms to get a bunch of SP, ISK, and raise my KD/R. couldn't care less if my team full of newberries wins or not. The only time i focus on winning and nothing else would be inside of a corp battle, where winning actually matters, so all those things you listed are mostly null and void, except leaderboards and ISK..leaderboards just show how much 1 guy is willing to play, and ISK would come just fine once I hit my 1K WP in a game.

Again, there is no reason for me NOT to idle the MCC after i get my 1k WP.

How is this game not for me? I enjoy playing this game so long as my SP continues to grow and all my efforts don't go to waste. I'm very much looking forward to joining a major corp and being a big factor in huge corp battles. And i'll enjoy playing it tomorrow, right up until I hit 1,000 WP.

Still doesn't allow top-tier players to advance faster than above-average players.
why should i even try to pull down 2K+ WP a game when it caps at 1000? i'll just hit my 1k and go hide behind my redline for the rest of the game.

Still doesn't allow top-tier players to advance faster than above-average players.
why should i even try to pull down 2K+ WP a game when it caps at 1000? i'll just hit my 1k and go hide behind my redline for the rest of the game.

I spend 3k a clone on equipment ie the worst sorta gear. I work 9-5 so my SP total is on the low side. Does it stop me going 37-4 25-1 12-0 15-6, on a regular basis. Does it stop my team from winning more than we lose? (only just above 1 but thats just pub matches for you)


The answer to these questions is no, and do you know why?

FPS games are about twitch skill and positioning. You can have your 100,000,000,000,000 SP you can have your Special Proto gear that 20% better than mine, but do you know what you cannot shoot through walls and if you cannot aim at my avatar then guess who will be wasting another expensive clone. That would be YOU. So hide behind your red line with you 1k SP cap and lets see who dominates in 3 months time through pure practise alone.


Look at my last post in this thread for the calculator game, look right up your street.....

seriously, some of these posts are downright moronic...go hit = on a calculator over and over again? REALLY? LOL
I enjoy killing people, taking objectives, and I enjoy when my SP gain reflects my skill and ability. I do not enjoy doing all of that "fun stuff" for nothing, and when that "fun stuff" has little to no reward, it starts not being fun anymore.
win/loss ratio is a worthless stat because of pub games, i can and have gotten over 40+ kills in a skirmish and still lost by a landslide.
I mean, you guys go from preaching "help da noobs, get ppl to play dis game~!" to "LOL YOU DONT AGREE WITH SKILL CAP? FAK U UNINSTALL GAEM"

p.s. i can press a button over 700 times in 60 seconds, i would DESTROY you at the calculator game

Now we are getting somewhere, slowly you're understanding, An ever increasing number is pointless as far as "Fun" goes.

Lets put it another way.

FPS mark 1 - You destroy your enemies 10-1, you get all objectives, make 100 repairs and revive 50 people.
FPS mark 1 rewards you with 10SP

FPS mark 2 - You destroy your enemies 10-1, you get all objectives, make 100 repairs and revive 50 people.
FPS mark one rewards you with 10000000000SP

Which game is more fun?

Its all about fun why are you worried about SP?


So let imagine there is no cap You destroy your enemies 10-1, you get all objectives, make 100 repairs and revive 50 people.
your rewarded with 10000000000SP now you bought all skills in the game and they are all at level 5, you have SP left over. Is the game no longer any fun? If so save your self some time and take the capitalise advice your think we were giving you "UNINSTALL NOW" before you waste your time.


But it is looking like the calculator game is for you, the game is irrelevant you just want a way to flex your epeen ie "look at me a play 24 hours I day and I have a bigger number than you arn't I awesome."

How is this game not for me? I enjoy playing this game so long as my SP continues to grow and all my efforts don't go to waste. I'm very much looking forward to joining a major corp and being a big factor in huge corp battles. And i'll enjoy playing it tomorrow, right up until I hit 1,000 WP.

last time i checked, i got paid for EVERY hour of service I put into my job, they don't cap it at 1,000 dollars.

Your arguments are not making any sense olPlease clearly spell out your issue with out all im leet gamer bravado

Last time I checked, ppl played games for fun, not to QQ about the game being too fair for ppl with a little less skill.

when you max out all skills and stop gaining sp will you be done with the game?

This is not a question of fun, this is not a question of how much SP I get per game. If i got 1 billion or 10 per match, i don't care, but i want it to be consistent and i don't want my ability to be 'capped' so my SP gain is no higher than an average player.

you know what else levels good players out with average players? communism.

King Kobrah, I feel it necessary to tip my hat to you sir. trolling 3 pages without being called on it is no small feat! you deserve an internet for using others zealous logic, honor and rationality against them. you sure showed them who's the higher evolved life form! If only more people could put their own desires before the desires of others, this world would be a happier place!

Furthermore, mudkips. i herd u liek them.

You DO realize that this is a TEMP fix, right? Once the rollover system is ready, there will be no more SP=WP of any kind. People who are ready to call the SP system unfair to hardcore gamers over a temp fix that benefits EVERYONE and ISN'T EVEN IN PLACE YET will be flooding the earth with their salty tears of indignation when WP=/=SP in any way. xDD

This game is MEANT to have limits in place. This SP boost is a temporary boon, nothing more.

Yes! I can finally have a day off from Dust! What does everyone plan to do with their day off?

King Kobrah, I feel it necessary to tip my hat to you sir. trolling 4 pages without being called on it is no small feat! you deserve an internet for using others zealous logic, honor and rationality against them. you sure showed them who's the higher evolved life form! If only more people could put their own desires before the desires of others, this world would be a happier place!

Furthermore, mudkips. i herd u liek them.

Trolling is a art

Yes! I can finally have a day off from Dust! What does everyone plan to do with their day off?

You kept them distracted by your constant referral to "the average player" who was "keeping you back" when you knew full well that it was really CCP limiting your rate of progress so you wouldn't max out the skill tree before they had a chance to deepen it.

Congratulations on putting them on the defensive when they aren't a defining factor in CCP's decision!

dito

Yes! I can finally have a day off from Dust! What does everyone plan to do with their day off?

Still doesn't allow top-tier players to advance faster than above-average players.
why should i even try to pull down 2K+ WP a game when it caps at 1000? i'll just hit my 1k and go hide behind my redline for the rest of the game.

Still doesn't allow top-tier players to advance faster than above-average players.
why should i even try to pull down 2K+ WP a game when it caps at 1000? i'll just hit my 1k and go hide behind my redline for the rest of the game.

1000sp instead of 50sp sounds good to me.

How am I having fun if I know every WP i get over 1,000 is useless? what's my incentive to revive teammates for those few extra SP? What's my incentive to repair ****? to hack objectives? to win a random pub objective game? You'll have to excuse me if that doesn't motivate me very much.

last time i checked, i got paid for EVERY hour of service I put into my job, they don't cap it at 1,000 dollars.

How is anything i've said difficult to grasp? My argument may seem different because people keep attacking and nit-picking things i'm not even trying to imply, or they automatically dismiss me as some kind of irate crybaby, which is certainly not the case either.

i have re-stated what my argument is multiple times:

the low 1000 SP cap snubs hardcore players into being bottlenecked in with average players no matter how good you are and also allows CCP to take more of your money for boosters because it will take you longer to reach your desired goal/spec. this is a very obvious, blatant fact, and quite frankly i'm shocked anyone can even attempt to argue against something so OBVIOUS.

I can understand the general community wanting to level the playing field with a 1,000 SP cap, but as a hardcore player of every game I participate in, I'm really, really sick of getting snubbed so casual players can be on the same tier of skills and gear as I am (not that it will matter in terms of me killing them because MUH FPS SKILLS, but it's the principal behind it.)

if we can't have a civil discussion about something as simple as this without people rolling in telling me to outright quit because i don't agree with the SP cap, I legitimately fear for the longevity of this community.