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King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.01.29 12:29:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Barnabas Wrex wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Still doesn't allow top-tier players to advance faster than above-average players. why should i even try to pull down 2K+ WP a game when it caps at 1000? i'll just hit my 1k and go hide behind my redline for the rest of the game. If you treat a game like this, how are you at your job? last time i checked, i got paid for EVERY hour of service I put into my job, they don't cap it at 1,000 dollars. Last time I checked, ppl played games for fun, not to QQ about the game being too fair for ppl with a little less skill. I had fun once.
It was awful. |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.01.29 12:30:00 -
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Toyis Winknife wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Mr Gloo Gloo wrote:Nothing else to say... This game is not for you. How is this game not for me? I enjoy playing this game so long as my SP continues to grow and all my efforts don't go to waste. I'm very much looking forward to joining a major corp and being a big factor in huge corp battles. And i'll enjoy playing it tomorrow, right up until I hit 1,000 WP. when you max out all skills and stop gaining sp will you be done with the game? Considering that would take 7 years or more, I'd like to think i'd be done with the game. |
Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.29 12:47:00 -
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You DO realize that this is a TEMP fix, right? Once the rollover system is ready, there will be no more SP=WP of any kind. People who are ready to call the SP system unfair to hardcore gamers over a temp fix that benefits EVERYONE and ISN'T EVEN IN PLACE YET will be flooding the earth with their salty tears of indignation when WP=/=SP in any way. xDD
This game is MEANT to have limits in place. This SP boost is a temporary boon, nothing more. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.01.29 12:55:00 -
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I voted for option 5
Am i dissapointed? yes
Some games i would earn over 3k in WP and get 50SP, now i will get 1k in SP but i wont get 3k in SP
Some players may not bother hit the 1k and stop if its going to be a loss but in a squad of 4 thats 1 WBS and only 500WP off of 2 WBS
I would have prefered option 5 since it rewards you for playing well so the better you do the more rewarded you are |
Midas Man ll
Talon Strike Force LTD Sleepless Knights Alliance
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Posted - 2013.01.29 13:18:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote: This is not a question of fun, this is not a question of how much SP I get per game. If i got 1 billion or 10 per match, i don't care, but i want it to be consistent and i don't want my ability to be 'capped' so my SP gain is no higher than an average player.
you know what else levels good players out with average players? communism.
It was consistant 27k a day +50SP for each additional game. Its still consistant 259k a week + 1000SP for each addition game. So why so many tears about 1000k SP after cap. OK its not 1 billion. But its 100x more than 10. Sounds to me like you do care even though you say you dont.
who is this "average" player. Your total skill points wont help you kill "average" player if average player can aim and duck better than you.
10 SP total or 1 billion SP total says nothing about a players level of skill. Think of SP as more of a clock that you can accelerate slightly by being active. It is still a clock counting up time spent in game not skill aquired.
When you flex your 2 million SP on the forum we dont know if thats 10000 SP a day from 20 games a day because your aweful but played alot, we dont know if it 30,000 SP from 20 games a day because you are "average" and play alot, or if it 30,000SP from 1 game a week because your UBER skilled.
Take SP out and all it boils down to is are you having fun? Do you enjoy the game? Are you enjoying what you are doing? If your answers are yes then carry on and dont worry about SP. If the answer is no the game isnt for you move on to another more suitable title. But good luck find one out there that rewards Skill not time, ive looked and not found one yet. |
Orin the Freak
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
334
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Posted - 2013.01.29 13:21:00 -
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King Kobrah, I feel it necessary to tip my hat to you sir. trolling 4 pages without being called on it is no small feat! you deserve an internet for using others zealous logic, honor and rationality against them. you sure showed them who's the higher evolved life form! If only more people could put their own desires before the desires of others, this world would be a happier place!
Furthermore, mudkips. i herd u liek them. |
Midas Man ll
Talon Strike Force LTD Sleepless Knights Alliance
38
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Posted - 2013.01.29 13:42:00 -
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Orin the Freak wrote:King Kobrah, I feel it necessary to tip my hat to you sir. trolling 3 pages without being called on it is no small feat! you deserve an internet for using others zealous logic, honor and rationality against them. you sure showed them who's the higher evolved life form! If only more people could put their own desires before the desires of others, this world would be a happier place!
Furthermore, mudkips. i herd u liek them.
Fixed that for you, you called him out on the 4th. Minor mistake I know but....
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mikegunnz
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
425
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Posted - 2013.01.29 14:08:00 -
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Relax Kobra, the SP cap is a generous one.
Right now, you earn MORE than 1SP per WP in match. This will also continue with the new system. However, once you hit the cap, the calculation will change to 1WP=1SP. This means, that even good players (who typically might earn 1500-2000WP in a match) are only being deprived of 500 or so SP with the 1000 SP cap. Really not that big of a deal. |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
220
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Posted - 2013.01.29 17:06:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:You DO realize that this is a TEMP fix, right? Once the rollover system is ready, there will be no more SP=WP of any kind. People who are ready to call the SP system unfair to hardcore gamers over a temp fix that benefits EVERYONE and ISN'T EVEN IN PLACE YET will be flooding the earth with their salty tears of indignation when WP=/=SP in any way. xDD
This game is MEANT to have limits in place. This SP boost is a temporary boon, nothing more.
Baal, I don't recall seeing anywhere any details of how the new rollover system will work. It may well be exactly SP=WP. |
Er'ith Minour
SyNergy Gaming
0
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Posted - 2013.01.29 17:30:00 -
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Green Living wrote:Yes! I can finally have a day off from Dust! What does everyone plan to do with their day off?
I plan to play some of the OTHER games I have! I can actually start using the Game Fly account my girl got me for xmas! Thank you CCP for letting me get back to being a 'gamer' and not just a 'Duster'! |
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G Sacred
Rubber Chicken Bombers
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Posted - 2013.01.29 17:31:00 -
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Glad we are going to get some decent skill points after we hit the cap now. I still think they should have just removed the soft cap and kept it at 1WP=1SP. Even after I hit the skill cap, I still go on some pretty good tears. Like last night, I had hit my skill cap hours ago and was going 24-2 28-4 23-6. All good for me. Each match with over 2000 WP. My final match I played I went 38-1 thanks to a squad of Logis and got 2854 WP. So I think if you do good in a match, you should be equally rewarded. |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming
33
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Posted - 2013.01.29 19:15:00 -
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Orin the Freak wrote:King Kobrah, I feel it necessary to tip my hat to you sir. trolling 4 pages without being called on it is no small feat! you deserve an internet for using others zealous logic, honor and rationality against them. you sure showed them who's the higher evolved life form! If only more people could put their own desires before the desires of others, this world would be a happier place!
Furthermore, mudkips. i herd u liek them. Trolling is a art |
Skihids
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
969
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Posted - 2013.01.29 23:43:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Orin the Freak wrote:King Kobrah, I feel it necessary to tip my hat to you sir. trolling 4 pages without being called on it is no small feat! you deserve an internet for using others zealous logic, honor and rationality against them. you sure showed them who's the higher evolved life form! If only more people could put their own desires before the desires of others, this world would be a happier place!
Furthermore, mudkips. i herd u liek them. Trolling is a art
You kept them distracted by your constant referral to "the average player" who was "keeping you back" when you knew full well that it was really CCP limiting your rate of progress so you wouldn't max out the skill tree before they had a chance to deepen it.
Congratulations on putting them on the defensive when they aren't a defining factor in CCP's decision! |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
288
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Posted - 2013.01.29 23:53:00 -
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Green Living wrote:Yes! I can finally have a day off from Dust! What does everyone plan to do with their day off?
Grind on a HMG alt to see how OP I can make it. Wanted to work on it last night, but I had my main characters daily SP responsibility to fulfill.
Hope they get the new system in a day or so.
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King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.01.29 23:56:00 -
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Skihids wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Orin the Freak wrote:King Kobrah, I feel it necessary to tip my hat to you sir. trolling 4 pages without being called on it is no small feat! you deserve an internet for using others zealous logic, honor and rationality against them. you sure showed them who's the higher evolved life form! If only more people could put their own desires before the desires of others, this world would be a happier place!
Furthermore, mudkips. i herd u liek them. Trolling is a art You kept them distracted by your constant referral to "the average player" who was "keeping you back" when you knew full well that it was really CCP limiting your rate of progress so you wouldn't max out the skill tree before they had a chance to deepen it. Congratulations on putting them on the defensive when they aren't a defining factor in CCP's decision! Well, they kind of are, considering they all voted for #2 so hardcore players won't blow by them like they rightfully should. |
Disturbingly Bored
Universal Allies Inc.
92
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Posted - 2013.01.30 00:30:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Still doesn't allow top-tier players to advance faster than above-average players. why should i even try to pull down 2K+ WP a game when it caps at 1000? i'll just hit my 1k and go hide behind my redline for the rest of the game. dito
Because you both were just killing one raspberry for 50SP after cap and running to the red line prior to this announcement...
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
229
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Posted - 2013.01.30 02:05:00 -
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don't complain guys... even life has a cap (and it's not soft at all) |
Jotun Hiem
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
412
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Posted - 2013.01.30 02:07:00 -
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Green Living wrote:Yes! I can finally have a day off from Dust! What does everyone plan to do with their day off? I'm gunna play DUST!
Hey... wait a minute. |
jbigwalker
Saint Mary's Army
3
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Posted - 2013.01.30 02:09:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Still doesn't allow top-tier players to advance faster than above-average players. why should i even try to pull down 2K+ WP a game when it caps at 1000? i'll just hit my 1k and go hide behind my redline for the rest of the game.
really youre that cheap wow remind me never to have you watch my back lmao so much for remembering this is a long term game not something you will master over night thats funny
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5377
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
4
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Posted - 2013.01.30 02:39:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Still doesn't allow top-tier players to advance faster than above-average players. why should i even try to pull down 2K+ WP a game when it caps at 1000? i'll just hit my 1k and go hide behind my redline for the rest of the game. ghey |
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Veritas Vitae
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
34
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Posted - 2013.01.30 02:44:00 -
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Dr Debo Galaxy wrote:1000sp instead of 50sp sounds good to me.
^This.
Seems some people aren't reading the whole damn statement. The softcap of 1k SP per match is AFTER you hit your weekly cap. So, basically they are switching to weekly and increasing the SP per match after cap 20x. QQ moar if you still can't comprehend that. |
Scurvy Granger
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
75
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Posted - 2013.01.30 05:11:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:How am I having fun if I know every WP i get over 1,000 is useless? what's my incentive to revive teammates for those few extra SP? What's my incentive to repair ****? to hack objectives? to win a random pub objective game? You'll have to excuse me if that doesn't motivate me very much. So the only thing you care about is SP? It's not fun to shoot other people? It's not fun to joke around on comms with friends? Well keep those tears rolling then, I guess you forgot the purpose of a GAME. |
Scurvy Granger
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
75
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Posted - 2013.01.30 05:12:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Barnabas Wrex wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Still doesn't allow top-tier players to advance faster than above-average players. why should i even try to pull down 2K+ WP a game when it caps at 1000? i'll just hit my 1k and go hide behind my redline for the rest of the game. If you treat a game like this, how are you at your job? last time i checked, i got paid for EVERY hour of service I put into my job, they don't cap it at 1,000 dollars. He's referring to the obvious you only do what you HAVE to do aspect that your attitude represents. You must work at Wal-mart. |
crazy space 1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.30 05:24:00 -
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it's only 1000 sp if you get 1000 war points.
also to gain double the cap you'd have to fight 120 extra matches in a week. That's about 50 hours of gameplay where you get 1000 WP per match. all to get the same amount of sp a casual can make by playing 8 hours a week
So if someone has 50 hours turn dust into a full time job, good for them, they will only advance 33% faster.
As far as I'm concerned this change will net me some extra sp on top of the cap. It will net me about an extra 15,000 extra sp a week more or less, and that's great with me. that's quite a bit in the long run. 60,000 a month , 720,000 over a year! |
Scurvy Granger
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
75
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Posted - 2013.01.30 05:33:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:Your arguments are not making any sense olPlease clearly spell out your issue with out all im leet gamer bravado How is anything i've said difficult to grasp? My argument may seem different because people keep attacking and nit-picking things i'm not even trying to imply, or they automatically dismiss me as some kind of irate crybaby, which is certainly not the case either. i have re-stated what my argument is multiple times: the low 1000 SP cap snubs hardcore players into being bottlenecked in with average players no matter how good you are and also allows CCP to take more of your money for boosters because it will take you longer to reach your desired goal/spec. this is a very obvious, blatant fact, and quite frankly i'm shocked anyone can even attempt to argue against something so OBVIOUS. I can understand the general community wanting to level the playing field with a 1,000 SP cap, but as a hardcore player of every game I participate in, I'm really, really sick of getting snubbed so casual players can be on the same tier of skills and gear as I am (not that it will matter in terms of me killing them because MUH FPS SKILLS, but it's the principal behind it.) if we can't have a civil discussion about something as simple as this without people rolling in telling me to outright quit because i don't agree with the SP cap, I legitimately fear for the longevity of this community. The civil discussion went away when you said you were gonna sit behind in the redzone after hitting your cap. So whatever game you're in they are down 1 player right there. You talk about it being unfair to YOU and how YOU will react to it so obviously all YOU care about is yourself and your SP. Why should anyone care about YOU then? They don't and they'd rather you quit the game than waste a spot in a match they are playing in.
You want a civil conversation? No, you just want to **** people off because you can't get your way. I was in support of the chosen option, and if they would have picked the other option I would have been upset, but I wouldn't have thrown a childish temper tantrum saying "Since I can't get my way I'm just gonna sit in the MCC all day."
So if you want a civil conversation try without the whining. |
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