Don't put up with the abuse Rambo.

It's clear you're being trolled horribly.

"It's a beta!" is going to start sounding pretty darn shrill after the millionth time - given this game won't go gold but will just slide into release.

Can't use the beta meme for everything.

But I really don't care. If you continue to post I will continue to reply calling you stupid until you stop.

Hm. Interesting. What's sad is all these people genuinely believe all these problems are going to be fixed, and this will be a 100% flawless game, because that's what happens right? Every game that gets released is perfect, because it isn't a beta anymore, remember?

Like the way Skyrim DLC has been released on time and works flawlessly - oh wait it hasn't even been released because they can't make it work.



You wouldn't dare!

No, apparently you don't, because it's a BETA, not a complete, finished, stable release-quality game.


See? Assuming that a BETA is meant to be stable when THE GAME ISN'T FINISHED YET.

Stability is important to have down BEFORE RELEASE, but it ISN'T as critical to a BETA because IT'S STILL BEING TESTED AND MODIFIED.

You don't focus on stability until the core functionality is decided on and you have a solid base to make stable. They're still working on what needs to be in the game, adding, altering and redesigning various aspects of how the core mechanics work. Until the game is FUNCTIONALLY ready for release, the problems you're experiencing probably aren't going to be the priority issues to fix.

Also, I've played a lot of games (Assassin's Creed series being a nice collection of examples) where this kind of issue doesn't get fixed even after release. Even after release of 3 sequels in the same game engine and a fourth in only a minimally-reworked "new" engine, for that matter. The original, and AC2, both crashed more on release than DUST 514 does while it's still in beta testing. Star Wars: The Force Unleashed had occasional crashes - almost as often as the current DUST beta - on release. Syndicate still desperately needs to be patched for major game-breaking issues and it's going to have been out for a year as of next month.

No, I'm not saying that makes it ok for a release-ready game, but it certainly makes it a bit more clear that the problem existing in beta isn't as bad as you're trying to make it sound.

But more then that - feel ashamed you post like a douche with brain cancer. General Discussion doesn't mean "Place where people place there tears." We generally discuss the game here to help it grow - not listen to little girls like you QQ.

Wow, that's a REALLY man thing to say about cancer patients. Yeah, I'M the douche. At least I don't utilize people with life threatening diseases against pointless people on the internet simply to make my e-peener grow.

If those people were here playing DUST and saw you post they'd be more then happy to take one for the team to call you an idiot.

If those people were here playing DUST and saw you post they'd be more then happy to take one for the team to call you an idiot.

No, I think he has a point.

Accusing cancer patients - even ones with brain cancer - of being that stupid is pretty insulting.

To everyone else, my connection is pretty ****. I rarely get dropped from other online games. The only game that actually ever crashes is Skyrim or New Vegas.

The only time this game crashes is when I'm in battle, but surely enough, it crashes within 15 minutes of playing a new patch, EVERY. TIME.

I actually left my character in his quarters as I took an immense diarrhea (really bad stomach virus this week), and came back 30 minutes later and game was still going. I join a match (after trying over 6 times) and get 2 kills, 2 deaths then boom - game crash.

I promise it's this game. A beta that has been out this long should have had crashing issues like this fixed by now. Maybe I'm the only one - or maybe I'm the only one who bothered coming to the forums and gave enough of a **** to say something about it instead of just going off to play some other game (like I've been doing for the past 1/4 of a year).

The core is not set yet, they are still implementing temporary fixes so we can enjoy this beta while they work on the core programming so it gets to the point they want it to be.

I happen to know some who found my comment funny. Sorry if anyone else finds it offensive. But it does do things to you that makes you less then normal. They don't deny it and neither should this guy.

I suspect you may have missed my point.

I was saying they should be offended at their intelligence being insulted by the comparison with OP.

I look forward to hearing from him when (if) he shows up. Could be entertaining.

All this talk about my mother's brain tumor aside if the core of this game is not set what in God's name is it doing out of closed beta?

A beta is normally for stress test, feature tweak, final balance etc.

Just saying.

My mother lived by the way.

Nah, son. Nah.

Let me school ya somethin'. Here's a PERFECT analogy that will help you see how asanine stating it's a beta is in order to excuse it of any wrong doings.

Imagine you have an 8 year old child. Your child hits you in the face repeatedly. YOU would say it's okay bcause he isn't an adult yet.

NO. IT IS NOT OKAY. Your child should have learned as a baby not to hit in the face, (the exact same way you can teach a dog as a puppy not to bite hard at all while it's a puppy - for all my dog owners out there).

Yes IT'S A BETA, but crashing problems should be fixed certainly within 6 months, CERTAINLY BEFORE BECOMING AN OPEN BETA. Your "it's a beta" argument is stale and invalid. I've been in over 10 betas, some FPS, some not, and I can tell you by the time it becomes an open beta, it's usually nearly finished. By that point they usually just focus on balance issues and MINOR glitches, which after looking at the last patch notes it had a **** load of balance fixes.

Read the writing on the wall. Anyone who chalks any beta issue up to "it's a beta" has clearly not been in very many betas. There were a lot of issues in MAG's beta that never got fixed and everyone just kept saying "it's a beta herp derp derp derp!" and look where it is now: It doesn't get enough players to even launch it's signature game mode.

ha I did actually at first. But when I discovered my mistake i realize my post still just points at OP just bein' an idiot and should just accept it. So I left it.

Glad to hear she lived and I wish you and your family the best.

Core of the game is here - but as with any beta we're still working out all the kinks and details. This game doesn't use a lot of the same techniques other MMO's have employed. It's already strange enough hit detection is from the client. Everytime CCP adds something new something else breaks. That's what we're here for - to straighten that all out. Sometiems that means it comes with crashes. Sometimes it means it comes with lag.

As long as we are still in anything that can be defined as 'beta' then we are as such. It may be an over-used excuse and may start to sting when heard but that doesn't take away from the validity of the comment.

No, you didn't notice it.

You left it because someone already pointed it out.

How's your family?

The sycophantic gnashing of teeth and the clutching of the word "beta" is absolutely pathetic on this forum. It's actually holding back the game if you ask me because we have these ostriches with their head buried so far into the sand that they can't tell their arse from their elbow.

Poor frame-rate? - IT'S A BETA
Poor Graphics? - IT'S A BETA
Poor Gun Mechanics - IT'S A BETA
Poor Sound - IT'S A BETA

OP, I haven't had the crash bug but it's just another in a litany of things that are wrong with this game. I could go on but the drones who bleat on about "beta this and beta that" and the "go back to COD" brigade will arrive and ruin any chance of meaningful discussion. Case in point, we have a guy in this thread who believes this game has better core mechanics than BF3. I don't like BF3 very much personally, but it takes about 5 seconds to see the gulf in class between the two games.

Anyway, you aren't missing much.

The sycophantic gnashing of teeth and the clutching of the word "beta" is absolutely pathetic on this forum. It's actually holding back the game if you ask me because we have these ostriches with their head buried so far into the sand that they can't tell their arse from their elbow.

Poor frame-rate? - IT'S A BETA
Poor Graphics? - IT'S A BETA
Poor Gun Mechanics - IT'S A BETA
Poor Sound - IT'S A BETA

OP, I haven't had the crash bug but it's just another in a litany of things that are wrong with this game. I could go on but the drones who bleat on about "beta this and beta that" and the "go back to COD" brigade will arrive and ruin any chance of meaningful discussion. Case in point, we have a guy in this thread who believes this game has better core mechanics than BF3. I don't like BF3 very much personally, but it takes about 5 seconds to see the gulf in class between the two games.

Anyway, you aren't missing much.

JANUARY
January - SMGs
January - Rendering Distance Based on Threat
January - Spawn Room Tunnel System
January - Window Plugs
January - Tower Redesign
January - More secure spawn rooms at small outposts
January - Destroying the SCU only penalizes Spawn Timers
January - Creating "No Deploy" zones for AMS equipped Sunderers
January - Defender Only Jump Pads
January - Player Invincibility on Spawn
January - Experience Source Display Improvements
January - Experience Incentives

February
February - Empire Specific Rocket Launchers
February - Vehicle Update: Flash
February - Pump Action Shotguns
February - VR Training Area
February - Orbital Strike
February - Spectator Mode
February - Regional Empire Priority System
February - Loadout Screen Revamp
February - Community Grief Reporting
February - Daily Medals/Achievements
February - Account Level Unlocks
February - Increase the number of vehicle cosmetic slots
February - Separate Score from Experience
February - Improved Item Preview

March - Player Generated Missions
March - Implants
March - Class Revamp: Light Assault
March - Ragdoll Physics
March - Color Blind Support
March - Convenience Items
March - Improved Map and Respawn
March - Cert Screen Revamp
March - Tutorial
March - CONTINENT LOCKING
March - MAX Flamethrowers

April - In-game Mail
April - Gifting
April - Empire Specific Run Animations
April - Facebook/Twitter Integration
April - Outfit Recruiting
April - New Continent: Hossin
April - Interlink Facility
April - Vehicle Update: Sunderer
April - Common Pool Heavy Pistols

May - Class Revamp: MAX
May - Taunts
May - Voice Packs
May - Resource Revamp

June - Vehicle Zoning
June - Player Made Decals
June - Outfit Tournaments
June - Outfit Progression
June - Outfit Leaderboards
June - Outfit Base Capture
June - Supply Containers
June - Air Vehicle Passenger Transport
June - Improved Vehicle Deconstruction
June - Per Seat Vehicle Locking
June - Faction Pistols
June - New Vehicle: Buggy

There's just not enough feedback. The biggest concern is the awful frame-rate and I've yet to hear a dev address this issue.

There's very little room for subtlety on this forum. I've tried, but when you are wading through post after post from bleating sheep, you have to be a little more direct.

I think it would go a LONG way towards making the community feel a bit more involved if they'd release some kind of schedule on upcoming fixes/changes to the engine.

SOE just released this list of upcoming changes to Planetside 2 yesterday.

There's just not enough feedback. The biggest concern is the awful frame-rate and I've yet to hear a dev address this issue.

Ummm...I know

Frame rate will be fixed when the PS4 releases...

Same for graphics...

That is all

There's very little room for subtlety on this forum. I've tried, but when you are wading through post after post from bleating sheep, you have to be a little more direct.

I think it would go a LONG way towards making the community feel a bit more involved if they'd release some kind of schedule on upcoming fixes/changes to the engine.