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Mitachui
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.22 01:41:00 -
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also I knew KEQ corp was not going to be good smugface.jpg. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2013.01.22 01:43:00 -
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Imperfects showed up. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1593
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Posted - 2013.01.22 01:45:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Imperfects showed up.
Goonswarm hasn't given up. They just let you IMPs take over just to make you feel like you did something meaningful. |
Mitachui
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.01.22 01:47:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Imperfects showed up. Goonswarm hasn't given up. They just let you IMPs take over just to make you feel like you did something meaningful.
Naw, Goonswarm was not good just had numbers. |
xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1452
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Posted - 2013.01.22 01:49:00 -
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Mitachui wrote:also I knew KEQ corp was not going to be good smugface.jpg.
one of the OG DUST greats has returned. |
Frodaris Sortana 2100058545
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
43
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Posted - 2013.01.22 01:53:00 -
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Wait, doesn't the Imperfects represent the Goonswarm's presence in Dust or something like that?
Not really a snide remark or bad joke, just a simple question, so correct me if I am wrong please. :) |
Quickgloves
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
329
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Posted - 2013.01.22 01:54:00 -
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Mitachui wrote:also I knew KEQ corp was not going to be good smugface.jpg.
!!! LOL !!! |
Mitachui
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.01.22 01:55:00 -
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Frodaris Sortana 2100058545 wrote:Wait, doesn't the Imperfects represent the Goonswarm's presence in Dust or something like that?
Not really a snide remark or bad joke, just a simple question, so correct me if I am wrong please. :)
I would hope not. That would be extremely disappointing. |
Daxos Cavaletto
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
74
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Posted - 2013.01.22 02:16:00 -
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Frodaris Sortana 2100058545 wrote:Wait, doesn't the Imperfects represent the Goonswarm's presence in Dust or something like that?
Not really a snide remark or bad joke, just a simple question, so correct me if I am wrong please. :)
I have no idea what you are talking about. |
Ner'Zul Nexhawk
Talos Incorporated
153
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Posted - 2013.01.22 02:35:00 -
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Frodaris Sortana 2100058545 wrote:Wait, doesn't the Imperfects represent the Goonswarm's presence in Dust or something like that?
Not really a snide remark or bad joke, just a simple question, so correct me if I am wrong please. :)
Isn't that Immobile Infantry?
Anyhow, imagine the entire population of Goonswarm. Now let's say that approximately one third of them boots their PS3's and downloads Dust. I don't know the numbers, but will make a guess that it's about 3000 people.I do not believe that, among all those people, everyone will be a scrub and a n00b. Surely some of them will be good and have the skill of the top gamers. And then, we'll see who will rule New Eden. |
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J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
648
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Posted - 2013.01.22 02:38:00 -
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thanks for the attention, we love to get good press |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2013.01.22 02:45:00 -
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What happen? Well, sombody set up us the bomb, and all your base are belong to us, soooooo.... we might as well MOOOVE ZIG! |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
811
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Posted - 2013.01.22 02:49:00 -
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There's nothing to rule yet. Imps are currently king **** of **** mountain. |
Mitachui
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.01.22 02:55:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:There's nothing to rule yet. Imps are currently king **** of **** mountain.
Yet you are part of **** |
Breakin Stuff
Immobile Infantry
680
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Posted - 2013.01.22 02:57:00 -
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Frodaris Sortana 2100058545 wrote:Wait, doesn't the Imperfects represent the Goonswarm's presence in Dust or something like that?
Not really a snide remark or bad joke, just a simple question, so correct me if I am wrong please. :)
the Imperfects are trying to be the Pandemic Legion of DUST 514. The only problem with this is Pandemic Legion will likely never care about them.
For good reason.
But no, the Goons are not hard to find. Neither is TEST, or half a dozen other EVE corps in here. |
Daxos Cavaletto
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
74
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Posted - 2013.01.22 02:58:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:There's nothing to rule yet. Imps are currently king **** of **** mountain.
we actually agree. We have no value as mercs to anyone when ccp has not given eve players anything worth employing us for. As a eve nerd myself, this is an issue since financial motivation is a big factor for both dust and eve players.
So we are bascially unemployed mercs like everyone else in dust. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2013.01.22 02:58:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:There's nothing to rule yet. Imps are currently king **** of **** mountain. Until they figure out they're an FPS clan and not a corp. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1058
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Posted - 2013.01.22 03:01:00 -
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Soldiers of fortune don't make a visible mark on the galaxy. I've already heard a few times that the imperfects plan to be mercenaries and nothing more. |
Mitachui
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.01.22 03:03:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Frodaris Sortana 2100058545 wrote:Wait, doesn't the Imperfects represent the Goonswarm's presence in Dust or something like that?
Not really a snide remark or bad joke, just a simple question, so correct me if I am wrong please. :) t But no, the Goons are not hard to find. .
Ahh, yeah it kind of is hard trying to find terrible players among the of the terrible players on dust. |
Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1040
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Posted - 2013.01.22 03:06:00 -
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Mitachui wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Frodaris Sortana 2100058545 wrote:Wait, doesn't the Imperfects represent the Goonswarm's presence in Dust or something like that?
Not really a snide remark or bad joke, just a simple question, so correct me if I am wrong please. :) t But no, the Goons are not hard to find. . Ahh, yeah it kind of is hard trying to find terrible players among the of the terrible players on dust.
Hey I am the hated **** talking troller of these here forums. Best find your own bunch of low skill scrubs to belittle and farm. |
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crazy space 2100046106
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2013.01.22 03:07:00 -
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The game isn't even out yet dude |
Berserker007
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
206
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Posted - 2013.01.22 03:11:00 -
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Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote:Frodaris Sortana 2100058545 wrote:Wait, doesn't the Imperfects represent the Goonswarm's presence in Dust or something like that?
Not really a snide remark or bad joke, just a simple question, so correct me if I am wrong please. :) Isn't that Immobile Infantry? Anyhow, imagine the entire population of Goonswarm. Now let's say that approximately one third of them boots their PS3's and downloads Dust. I don't know the numbers, but will make a guess that it's about 30,000 people. This maybe an absurd number, so please correct me with accurate numbers. Anyways, I do not believe that, among all those people, everyone will be a scrub and a n00b. Surely some of them will be good and have the skill of the top gamers. And then, we'll see who will rule New Eden.
Id still take us. Hell, do one better. We'd be able to do what the 300 spartans couldn't do against the numbers, we will WIN... MOLON LABE |
Breakin Stuff
Immobile Infantry
680
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Posted - 2013.01.22 03:12:00 -
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Berserker007 wrote: Id still take us. Hell, do one better. We'd be able to do what the 300 spartans couldn't do against the numbers, we will WIN... MOLON LABE
BOB tried that. They discovered that eighty frigates versus eight battleships was not a fight stacked in their favor. |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2013.01.22 03:31:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Imperfects showed up.
Nobody outside of these forums has any idea who or what Imperfects are.
Goonwaffe is an EVE corp. It doesn't care about Dust, because Dust has nothing to do with EVE, currently. It may never care about Dust. Some people from Goonwaffe play Dust, but those people don't represent Goonwaffe in any official capacity, and are playing on their own, out of personal interest in the game. Hope that clears everything up. |
Telcontar Dunedain
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
328
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Posted - 2013.01.22 03:36:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Imperfects showed up. Nobody outside of these forums has any idea who or what Imperfects are. Goonswarm is an EVE corp. It doesn't care about Dust, because Dust has nothing to do with EVE, currently. It may never care about Dust. Some people from Goonswarm play Dust, but those people don't represent Goonswarm in any official capacity. Hope that clears everything up.
This goes both ways.
Goonswarm has never had a significant fps presence as far I've seen. They have 9000 players in a slightly better than tabtarget game called Eve.
Noone cares about them in the FPS world because they haven't been a factor. |
BETTY-WHITE KILLED U
Anonymous Killers Mercenary Corporation
8
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Posted - 2013.01.22 03:38:00 -
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arent the imps part of the goons? and if so im sorry to say yea not that impressive ive had more trouble fighting imperfects and pink flufflies. oh by the way... iiiiiimmmmm baaaaaaccccckkk
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Breakin Stuff
Immobile Infantry
680
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Posted - 2013.01.22 03:41:00 -
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BETTY-WHITE KILLED U wrote:arent the imps part of the goons? and if so im sorry to say yea not that impressive ive had more trouble fighting imperfects and pink flufflies. oh by the way... iiiiiimmmmm baaaaaaccccckkk
didn't I shoot your ass a few times the other day? |
BETTY-WHITE KILLED U
Anonymous Killers Mercenary Corporation
8
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Posted - 2013.01.22 03:42:00 -
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BETTY-WHITE KILLED U wrote:arent the imps part of the goons? and if so im sorry to say yea not that impressive ive had more trouble fighting imperfects and pink flufflies. oh by the way... iiiiiimmmmm baaaaaaccccckkk
by imps i meant impswarms ive seen them around and someone told me they were with goonswarm. but i coulda just been told wrong info.
bagels anyone?? |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2013.01.22 03:43:00 -
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Telcontar Dunedain wrote:This goes both ways.
Goonswarm has never had a significant fps presence as far I've seen. They have 9000 players in a slightly better than tabtarget game called Eve.
Noone cares about them in the FPS world because they haven't been a factor.
EVE is not an FPS, so why would Goonswarm be expected to have an FPS presence in the first place? How concerned are The Imperfects that they aren't a factor in the competitive RTS scene? |
Telcontar Dunedain
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
328
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Posted - 2013.01.22 03:45:00 -
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BETTY-WHITE KILLED U wrote:BETTY-WHITE KILLED U wrote:arent the imps part of the goons? and if so im sorry to say yea not that impressive ive had more trouble fighting imperfects and pink flufflies. oh by the way... iiiiiimmmmm baaaaaaccccckkk
by imps i meant impswarms ive seen them around and someone told me they were with goonswarm. but i coulda just been told wrong info. bagels anyone??
Impswarm is part of Imperfects. Nothing to do with Goons.
IIRC Immobile Infantry is the Goons in Dust514 so far. |
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Telcontar Dunedain
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
328
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Posted - 2013.01.22 03:46:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:Telcontar Dunedain wrote:This goes both ways.
Goonswarm has never had a significant fps presence as far I've seen. They have 9000 players in a slightly better than tabtarget game called Eve.
Noone cares about them in the FPS world because they haven't been a factor. EVE is not an FPS, so why would Goonswarm be expected to have an FPS presence in the first place? How concerned are The Imperfects that they aren't a factor in the competitive RTS scene?
We are talking past each other.
I don't expect to see significant Goon presence in Dust514 beyond their ISK. |
The legend345
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
73
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Posted - 2013.01.22 03:48:00 -
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BETTY-WHITE KILLED U wrote:BETTY-WHITE KILLED U wrote:arent the imps part of the goons? and if so im sorry to say yea not that impressive ive had more trouble fighting imperfects and pink flufflies. oh by the way... iiiiiimmmmm baaaaaaccccckkk
by imps i meant impswarms ive seen them around and someone told me they were with goonswarm. but i coulda just been told wrong info. bagels anyone?? No. |
BETTY-WHITE KILLED U
Anonymous Killers Mercenary Corporation
8
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Posted - 2013.01.22 03:50:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:BETTY-WHITE KILLED U wrote:arent the imps part of the goons? and if so im sorry to say yea not that impressive ive had more trouble fighting imperfects and pink flufflies. oh by the way... iiiiiimmmmm baaaaaaccccckkk
didn't I shoot your ass a few times the other day?
im sure you wished you shot me a few times the other day..lol REAL TALK. |
Mitachui
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.01.22 03:51:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Imperfects showed up. Nobody outside of these forums has any idea who or what Imperfects are. Goonwaffe is an EVE corp. It doesn't care about Dust, because Dust has nothing to do with EVE, currently. It may never care about Dust. Some people from Goonwaffe play Dust, but those people don't represent Goonwaffe in any official capacity, and are playing on their own, out of personal interest in the game. Hope that clears everything up.
Spin it |
BETTY-WHITE KILLED U
Anonymous Killers Mercenary Corporation
8
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Posted - 2013.01.22 03:52:00 -
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Telcontar Dunedain wrote:BETTY-WHITE KILLED U wrote:BETTY-WHITE KILLED U wrote:arent the imps part of the goons? and if so im sorry to say yea not that impressive ive had more trouble fighting imperfects and pink flufflies. oh by the way... iiiiiimmmmm baaaaaaccccckkk
by imps i meant impswarms ive seen them around and someone told me they were with goonswarm. but i coulda just been told wrong info. bagels anyone?? Impswarm is part of Imperfects. Nothing to do with Goons. IIRC Immobile Infantry is the Goons in Dust514 so far.
ooh ok well thanks |
Ner'Zul Nexhawk
Talos Incorporated
153
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Posted - 2013.01.22 03:52:00 -
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BETTY-WHITE KILLED U wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:BETTY-WHITE KILLED U wrote:arent the imps part of the goons? and if so im sorry to say yea not that impressive ive had more trouble fighting imperfects and pink flufflies. oh by the way... iiiiiimmmmm baaaaaaccccckkk
didn't I shoot your ass a few times the other day? im sure you wished you shot me a few times the other day..lol REAL TALK.
I'm sorry, who are you exactly? |
BETTY-WHITE KILLED U
Anonymous Killers Mercenary Corporation
8
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Posted - 2013.01.22 03:53:00 -
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The legend345 wrote:BETTY-WHITE KILLED U wrote:BETTY-WHITE KILLED U wrote:arent the imps part of the goons? and if so im sorry to say yea not that impressive ive had more trouble fighting imperfects and pink flufflies. oh by the way... iiiiiimmmmm baaaaaaccccckkk
by imps i meant impswarms ive seen them around and someone told me they were with goonswarm. but i coulda just been told wrong info. bagels anyone?? No.
hope u didnt get offended by it but im foreal. |
Zat Earthshatter
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
304
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Posted - 2013.01.22 03:54:00 -
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Goonswarm Federation (GSF) won't care until DUST has a significant impact on the economy of EVE, or nullsec sov. Currently, all DUST does is make it a little easier to capture a FacWar system, which usually means nil.
When the District system is implemented for null, GSF will likely hand out contracts to defend their sov, as PI resources are the main source of POS fuel. POSes are basically the backbone of 0.0 manufacturing and economy, so making their source of fuel vulnerable to capture is, in itself, a game-changer. Expect Goonswarm to start caring when that day comes, and not a second sooner. |
BETTY-WHITE KILLED U
Anonymous Killers Mercenary Corporation
8
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Posted - 2013.01.22 03:54:00 -
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Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote:BETTY-WHITE KILLED U wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:BETTY-WHITE KILLED U wrote:arent the imps part of the goons? and if so im sorry to say yea not that impressive ive had more trouble fighting imperfects and pink flufflies. oh by the way... iiiiiimmmmm baaaaaaccccckkk
didn't I shoot your ass a few times the other day? im sure you wished you shot me a few times the other day..lol REAL TALK. I'm sorry, who are you exactly?
a great player. no qq friendly competitive love long walks on the beach candle lit dinners bagels and bacon. and you??? |
Ner'Zul Nexhawk
Talos Incorporated
153
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Posted - 2013.01.22 03:55:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:Telcontar Dunedain wrote:This goes both ways.
Goonswarm has never had a significant fps presence as far I've seen. They have 9000 players in a slightly better than tabtarget game called Eve.
Noone cares about them in the FPS world because they haven't been a factor. EVE is not an FPS, so why would Goonswarm be expected to have an FPS presence in the first place? How concerned are The Imperfects that they aren't a factor in the competitive RTS scene?
When Dust affects the sovereignty of planets in null-sec, I think Goons will be willing to take action, otherwise other alliances might steal their cake. |
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Telcontar Dunedain
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
328
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Posted - 2013.01.22 03:57:00 -
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Zat Earthshatter wrote:Goonswarm Federation (GSF) won't care until DUST has a significant impact on the economy of EVE, or nullsec sov. Currently, all DUST does is make it a little easier to capture a FacWar system, which usually means nil.
When the District system is implemented for null, GSF will likely hand out contracts to defend their sov, as PI resources are the main source of POS fuel. POSes are basically the backbone of 0.0 manufacturing and economy, so making their source of fuel vulnerable to capture is, in itself, a game-changer. Expect Goonswarm to start caring when that day comes, and not a second sooner.
If CCP does things right, Dust514 and Eve will be able to grief each other.
Then we will both care. |
Ner'Zul Nexhawk
Talos Incorporated
153
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Posted - 2013.01.22 03:57:00 -
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BETTY-WHITE KILLED U wrote:Ner'Zul Nexhawk wrote:BETTY-WHITE KILLED U wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:BETTY-WHITE KILLED U wrote:arent the imps part of the goons? and if so im sorry to say yea not that impressive ive had more trouble fighting imperfects and pink flufflies. oh by the way... iiiiiimmmmm baaaaaaccccckkk
didn't I shoot your ass a few times the other day? im sure you wished you shot me a few times the other day..lol REAL TALK. I'm sorry, who are you exactly? a great player. no qq friendly competitive love long walks on the beach candle lit dinners bagels and bacon. and you???
Ah, nothing serious, just a proud Minmatar medic doing my job. Just asked 'cause I've never seen you before here, and your "being back" raised a petty question. |
Mitachui
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.01.22 03:57:00 -
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Zat Earthshatter wrote:Goonswarm Federation (GSF) won't care until DUST has a significant impact on the economy of EVE, or nullsec sov. Currently, all DUST does is make it a little easier to capture a FacWar system, which usually means nil.
When the District system is implemented for null, GSF will likely hand out contracts to defend their sov, as PI resources are the main source of POS fuel. POSes are basically the backbone of 0.0 manufacturing and economy, so making their source of fuel vulnerable to capture is, in itself, a game-changer. Expect Goonswarm to start caring when that day comes, and not a second sooner.
All I hear is excuses for them being bad. Goonswarm = shook |
Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1040
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Posted - 2013.01.22 03:57:00 -
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Zat Earthshatter wrote:Goonswarm Federation (GSF) won't care until DUST has a significant impact on the economy of EVE, or nullsec sov. Currently, all DUST does is make it a little easier to capture a FacWar system, which usually means nil.
When the District system is implemented for null, GSF will likely hand out contracts to defend their sov, as PI resources are the main source of POS fuel. POSes are basically the backbone of 0.0 manufacturing and economy, so making their source of fuel vulnerable to capture is, in itself, a game-changer. Expect Goonswarm to start caring when that day comes, and not a second sooner.
Seriously? We need way more changes to resources model of nullsec because PI isn't going to motivate anyone. CCP needs to give us new resrouces for ships and dust merc gear.
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Breakin Stuff
Immobile Infantry
680
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Posted - 2013.01.22 03:59:00 -
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Zat Earthshatter wrote:Goonswarm Federation (GSF) won't care until DUST has a significant impact on the economy of EVE, or nullsec sov. Currently, all DUST does is make it a little easier to capture a FacWar system, which usually means nil.
When the District system is implemented for null, GSF will likely hand out contracts to defend their sov, as PI resources are the main source of POS fuel. POSes are basically the backbone of 0.0 manufacturing and economy, so making their source of fuel vulnerable to capture is, in itself, a game-changer. Expect Goonswarm to start caring when that day comes, and not a second sooner.
Ice interdiction, yo.
but more to the point the big EVE corps don't care by and large unless there is an economic advantage to using DUST mercs and there is a way they can utilize DUST mercs to **** off/interdict/weaken sov/etc. their enemies. A real, tangible benefit is needed before the funding of DUST mercenaries becomes more than a few people in the EVE alliances passing along pocket change to fund their DUST toons and good buddies. |
BETTY-WHITE KILLED U
Anonymous Killers Mercenary Corporation
8
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Posted - 2013.01.22 04:03:00 -
[46] - Quote
@ nur'zul
my account name got either stolen or wasnt able to use it at the time..
but im anonymous killers, anon illuminati,betty-white chipped u & now betty-white killed u i play on all 3 accounts and im ceo/founder of anonymous killers merc corp. |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2013.01.22 04:04:00 -
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Zat Earthshatter wrote:Goonswarm Federation (GSF) won't care until DUST has a significant impact on the economy of EVE, or nullsec sov. Currently, all DUST does is make it a little easier to capture a FacWar system, which usually means nil.
When the District system is implemented for null, GSF will likely hand out contracts to defend their sov, as PI resources are the main source of POS fuel. POSes are basically the backbone of 0.0 manufacturing and economy, so making their source of fuel vulnerable to capture is, in itself, a game-changer. Expect Goonswarm to start caring when that day comes, and not a second sooner.
Nobody has any idea how Dust will actually interact with EVE. CCP has speculated about some general ideas they have, but as the stuff is at least a year away it's probably not useful to speculate about it. |
Stormy Geddon
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
39
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Posted - 2013.01.22 04:11:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Berserker007 wrote: Id still take us. Hell, do one better. We'd be able to do what the 300 spartans couldn't do against the numbers, we will WIN... MOLON LABE
BOB tried that. They discovered that eighty frigates versus eight battleships was not a fight stacked in their favor.
There's a difference. In EVE you can swarm 80 players against 8. In Dust, you can't. Each team will have the same number of players in a given match, so numbers < skill, which kind of goes against the Goon strategy. Not to say there aren't skilled goons out there, but the thing that sets them apart is their ability to zerg their enemies.
The Pandemic Legion comparison is much better, but assumes we give a damn about getting their attention. Just because PL is a great merc corp in EVE doesn't mean we are trying to be them or need their attention.
Why does this thread feel so negative? I am not aware of any hostility between us and any EVE corp, so why not just answer the question? We do not know the exact nature of how EVE and Dust will interact, so we have a policy of keeping our options open. We are not linked to the Goons in any way. By my understanding, Immobile Infantry are the Goon presence here, and many of them seem like decent enough people, so perhaps we may work with them when it serves a purpose, or maybe we'll be on the other side. Depends on the money. We are mercs, after all. But seeing as how the Goons probably have the most money to throw around, seems like they have the most ability to afford the best, which is us. |
Breakin Stuff
Immobile Infantry
680
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Posted - 2013.01.22 04:12:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:[quote=Zat Earthshatter]
Nobody has any idea how Dust will actually interact with EVE. CCP has speculated about some general ideas they have, but as the stuff is at least a year away it's probably not useful to speculate about it.
We'll see a few goons join in open I'm sure, but I wouldn't bet on some sort of massive CFC Jam-up until they decide it's worth the effort. As DUST is right now? it's just a curiosity, an entertaining little bauble to occasionally play with. |
Telcontar Dunedain
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
328
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Posted - 2013.01.22 04:29:00 -
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Stormy Geddon wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Berserker007 wrote: Id still take us. Hell, do one better. We'd be able to do what the 300 spartans couldn't do against the numbers, we will WIN... MOLON LABE
BOB tried that. They discovered that eighty frigates versus eight battleships was not a fight stacked in their favor. There's a difference. In EVE you can swarm 80 players against 8. In Dust, you can't. Each team will have the same number of players in a given match, so numbers < skill, which kind of goes against the Goon strategy. Not to say there aren't skilled goons out there, but the thing that sets them apart is their ability to zerg their enemies. The Pandemic Legion comparison is much better, but assumes we give a damn about getting their attention. Just because PL is a great merc corp in EVE doesn't mean we are trying to be them or need their attention. Why does this thread feel so negative? I am not aware of any hostility between us and any EVE corp, so why not just answer the question? We do not know the exact nature of how EVE and Dust will interact, so we have a policy of keeping our options open. We are not linked to the Goons in any way. By my understanding, Immobile Infantry are the Goon presence here, and many of them seem like decent enough people, so perhaps we may work with them when it serves a purpose, or maybe we'll be on the other side. Depends on the money. We are mercs, after all. But seeing as how the Goons probably have the most money to throw around, seems like they have the most ability to afford the best, which is us.
QFT
but also
Berserker007 wrote: MOLON LABE
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Sytonis Auran
Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION
52
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Posted - 2013.01.22 04:30:00 -
[51] - Quote
Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Soldiers of fortune don't make a visible mark on the galaxy. I've already heard a few times that the imperfects plan to be mercenaries and nothing more.
But likely hot favourites to take the next tournament, no? If/when Dust 514 gets its first FPS New Eden Open, favourites there too? So they could hog tournament prizes for some time yet. Plenty for them to make a mark with competitively, without needing to deal with SOV. |
Telcontar Dunedain
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
328
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Posted - 2013.01.22 04:32:00 -
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Sytonis Auran wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Soldiers of fortune don't make a visible mark on the galaxy. I've already heard a few times that the imperfects plan to be mercenaries and nothing more. But likely hot favourites to take the next tournament, no? If/when Dust 514 gets its first FPS New Eden Open, favourites there too? So they could hog tournament prizes for some time yet. Plenty for them to make a mark with competitively, without needing to deal with SOV.
Tournaments are meaningless.
If that's the best CCP can do, this game has failed. |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2013.01.22 04:45:00 -
[53] - Quote
Stormy Geddon wrote:Why does this thread feel so negative? I am not aware of any hostility between us and any EVE corp, so why not just answer the question? We do not know the exact nature of how EVE and Dust will interact, so we have a policy of keeping our options open. We are not linked to the Goons in any way. By my understanding, Immobile Infantry are the Goon presence here, and many of them seem like decent enough people, so perhaps we may work with them when it serves a purpose, or maybe we'll be on the other side. Depends on the money. We are mercs, after all. But seeing as how the Goons probably have the most money to throw around, seems like they have the most ability to afford the best, which is us.
Immobile Infantry does not represent Goonswarm, so any negative waves you're feeling in this thread aren't of any consequence. Your plan to cash in on Goonswarm ISK in two years time when the nullsec stuff is done and worth doing remains intact. |
Breakin Stuff
Immobile Infantry
680
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Posted - 2013.01.22 04:54:00 -
[54] - Quote
Stormy Geddon wrote:
There's a difference. In EVE you can swarm 80 players against 8. In Dust, you can't. Each team will have the same number of players in a given match, so numbers < skill, which kind of goes against the Goon strategy. Not to say there aren't skilled goons out there, but the thing that sets them apart is their ability to zerg their enemies.
The Pandemic Legion comparison is much better, but assumes we give a damn about getting their attention. Just because PL is a great merc corp in EVE doesn't mean we are trying to be them or need their attention.
Why does this thread feel so negative? I am not aware of any hostility between us and any EVE corp, so why not just answer the question? We do not know the exact nature of how EVE and Dust will interact, so we have a policy of keeping our options open. We are not linked to the Goons in any way. By my understanding, Immobile Infantry are the Goon presence here, and many of them seem like decent enough people, so perhaps we may work with them when it serves a purpose, or maybe we'll be on the other side. Depends on the money. We are mercs, after all. But seeing as how the Goons probably have the most money to throw around, seems like they have the most ability to afford the best, which is us.
I pick on you guys because I like picking on you guys. But the goonswarm analogy is valid because unless CCP puts major limiters on[CENSORED. INTEL COSTS EXTRA] |
Patoman Radiant
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
53
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Posted - 2013.01.22 04:55:00 -
[55] - Quote
Its closed random beta, so they can hardly have a major presence yet, wait one day for the floodgates of thousands
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Mitachui
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.01.22 06:03:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Fivetimes Infinity wrote:[quote=Zat Earthshatter]
Nobody has any idea how Dust will actually interact with EVE. CCP has speculated about some general ideas they have, but as the stuff is at least a year away it's probably not useful to speculate about it. We'll see a few goons join in open I'm sure, but I wouldn't bet on some sort of massive CFC Jam-up until they decide it's worth the effort. As DUST is right now? it's just a curiosity, an entertaining little bauble to occasionally play with.
Translation: Will wait until they find an advantage or after the good players leave. |
Breakin Stuff
Immobile Infantry
680
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Posted - 2013.01.22 06:40:00 -
[57] - Quote
Mitachui wrote:[quote=Breakin Stuff]
Translation: Will wait until they find an advantage or after the good players leave.
or if they decide it's fun. I doubt they care if the good players leave. |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2013.01.22 06:45:00 -
[58] - Quote
Hey Mitachui I promise this time if you donate 100 million ISK to Immobile Infantry that we'll let you in Goonswarm. We were just playing around last time but this time for real we'll see you're truly dedicated and we'll let you in and then you can stop being angry at goons. |
Nstomper
Th3-ReSiStAnCe-SEC.0
205
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Posted - 2013.01.22 06:51:00 -
[59] - Quote
I run dust all of you are just sitting under my boot waiting too get nstomped on |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1904
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Posted - 2013.01.22 07:36:00 -
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DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1904
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Posted - 2013.01.22 07:43:00 -
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Telcontar Dunedain wrote:Noone cares about them in the FPS world because they haven't been a factor.
Yea, but DUST isn't from the FPS world; it's from the MMOFPS world, and it's a game changer for sure.
Who gives a crap about a tiny little corp of good players if they don't have real muscle behind them. It's all about alliances and coordination in large numbers. DUST mercs should inform themselves of the power struggles within EVE, as they will some day play a direct role in their day to day lives as immortal killing machines. |
Breakin Stuff
Immobile Infantry
680
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Posted - 2013.01.22 07:54:00 -
[62] - Quote
DUST Fiend wrote:Telcontar Dunedain wrote:Noone cares about them in the FPS world because they haven't been a factor. Yea, but DUST isn't from the FPS world; it's from the MMOFPS world, and it's a game changer for sure. Who gives a crap about a tiny little corp of good players if they don't have real muscle behind them. It's all about alliances and coordination in large numbers. DUST mercs should inform themselves of the power struggles within EVE, as they will some day play a direct role in their day to day lives as immortal killing machines.
immortal expendable meat is better than meat you have to pay death benefits to families for.
And yeah, mercs who play nice with the big EVE corps will find that budgetary concerns are less... concerning. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2013.01.22 09:31:00 -
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Goons are already in DUST.
Just not where most of us are looking.
They'll make themselves known when it's advantageous to do so. I look forward to seeing it happen. And I look forward to seeing how many people are caught completely off-guard when it happens too. Should be entertaining.
Also, DUST won't matter to EVE players until there are real and measurable advantages to having DUST players on your side. At the moment, FW isn't enough for most to care. |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2013.01.22 09:48:00 -
[64] - Quote
Garrett Blacknova has his finger on the pulse of goondom. Keep us up to date as the story unfolds. I look forward to future tales of these elusive creatures. |
Buzzin Fr0g
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
85
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Posted - 2013.01.22 09:54:00 -
[65] - Quote
Quickgloves wrote:Mitachui wrote:also I knew KEQ corp was not going to be good smugface.jpg. !!! LOL !!!
Interesting... My clan-mates must have dreamt that corp battle... |
Mitauchui
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.01.23 02:55:00 -
[66] - Quote
Breakin Stuff wrote:Mitachui wrote:[quote=Breakin Stuff]
Translation: Will wait until they find an advantage or after the good players leave. or if they decide it's fun. I doubt they care if the good players leave.
They are making excuses already shame that they are ROFL bad. |
STYLIE77
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
60
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Posted - 2013.01.24 12:24:00 -
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Mitachui wrote:also I knew KEQ corp was not going to be good smugface.jpg.
MOAR KEQQ PLZ!!! |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2013.01.24 21:57:00 -
[68] - Quote
Mitachui wrote:Zat Earthshatter wrote:Goonswarm Federation (GSF) won't care until DUST has a significant impact on the economy of EVE, or nullsec sov. Currently, all DUST does is make it a little easier to capture a FacWar system, which usually means nil.
When the District system is implemented for null, GSF will likely hand out contracts to defend their sov, as PI resources are the main source of POS fuel. POSes are basically the backbone of 0.0 manufacturing and economy, so making their source of fuel vulnerable to capture is, in itself, a game-changer. Expect Goonswarm to start caring when that day comes, and not a second sooner. All I hear is excuses for them being bad. Goonswarm = shook
And all i hear from you is terrible attempts at trolling, which you're really not very good at i may add.
We've had this conversation lots of times, normally with you because you can't seem to understand that Goonwaffe is not the only source of goons, theres a lot of Console FPS goons over at SA.com who hate EVE.
Not to mention we don't really give a **** about FW some of us are here, once again i'll say it... just to get the lay of the land and set up some basic logistics ready for when the times right. You'll know when we're here in force. Till then keep trying for babbys first troll, you never know, you may get lucky and get a reaction one time. I know it's difficult for you to understand there's things other than your play station or EVE in the world and that's fine. We know you think you're a special snowflake.
Stormy Geddon wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Berserker007 wrote: Id still take us. Hell, do one better. We'd be able to do what the 300 spartans couldn't do against the numbers, we will WIN... MOLON LABE
BOB tried that. They discovered that eighty frigates versus eight battleships was not a fight stacked in their favor. There's a difference. In EVE you can swarm 80 players against 8. In Dust, you can't. Each team will have the same number of players in a given match, so numbers < skill, which kind of goes against the Goon strategy. Not to say there aren't skilled goons out there, but the thing that sets them apart is their ability to zerg their enemies. The Pandemic Legion comparison is much better, but assumes we give a damn about getting their attention. Just because PL is a great merc corp in EVE doesn't mean we are trying to be them or need their attention. Why does this thread feel so negative? I am not aware of any hostility between us and any EVE corp, so why not just answer the question? We do not know the exact nature of how EVE and Dust will interact, so we have a policy of keeping our options open. We are not linked to the Goons in any way. By my understanding, Immobile Infantry are the Goon presence here, and many of them seem like decent enough people, so perhaps we may work with them when it serves a purpose, or maybe we'll be on the other side. Depends on the money. We are mercs, after all. But seeing as how the Goons probably have the most money to throw around, seems like they have the most ability to afford the best, which is us.
Also this isn't strictly true. There's lots of room for numbers still in this game, you're just basing your opinions on exsisting mechanics, not what's going to come in the future. Believe me, there's room for zerging so long as you have money.
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dent 308
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
967
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Posted - 2013.01.24 22:29:00 -
[69] - Quote
Soon. War is coming. |
Aran Abbas
Immobile Infantry
2
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Posted - 2013.01.24 22:41:00 -
[70] - Quote
It's me. I am the goon swarm. |
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Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2013.01.24 22:44:00 -
[71] - Quote
dent 308 wrote:Soon. War is coming.
REST TEST.
Oh, no... we already did that.
My email's posted in Jabber for you so you can ping me later. We need to talk i'm guessing by you asking about me all the time. |
Tien TheSecond
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
198
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Posted - 2013.02.01 22:57:00 -
[72] - Quote
Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:dent 308 wrote:Soon. War is coming. REST TEST. Oh, no... we already did that. My email's posted in Jabber for you so you can ping me later. We need to talk i'm guessing by you asking about me all the time.
Nothing worse then brothers fighting. Sure, there's black eyes, bumps, and scrapes but nothing changes the fact that at the end of the day th ey are still brothers. |
Drabardi Czigany
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.02.06 23:07:00 -
[73] - Quote
O.M.G. itz a bunch'a GOONS.... SWAT'EMSWAT'EM GOOOD |
Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
460
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Posted - 2013.02.06 23:30:00 -
[74] - Quote
goonswarm can't run dust.
because dust doesn't have swarm tactics. bodies over over members can't work on this because you can only have so much on the map.
sad really. i would totally love to see these elitest groups get schooled by 500 snipers and 500 heavies. |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
414
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Posted - 2013.02.07 00:09:00 -
[75] - Quote
We don't know how many maps can be in play on planet at once yet.
If they can start 50 battles at same time, elite corp can't even contest some of them unless they spread out.
300 spartans in open steppe would not have gone as well, with no goat path to be enveloped by spartans would have done much better. To early to tell if numbers vs quality will tip toward quality. On a single battle, quality of course. Goons won't care if they can meet goals by bypassing strongpoint imperfects can hold indefinably.
Some goons do play fps, they are just not necessarily goonswarm. The something awful forum has many corps/clans in different games and genre. I knew a guy that kept complaining about goons beating his clan in team fortress, and I knew a goon number of years back involved in the "goon swim team" that crashed a wow server. Goon in high school was always playing counter strike.
For record, I am in no way connected to goons. Just met a few in real life, and used to check Photoshop Phriday section of something awful for the humor. |
Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
460
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Posted - 2013.02.07 00:17:00 -
[76] - Quote
Ten-Sidhe wrote:We don't know how many maps can be in play on planet at once yet.
If they can start 50 battles at same time, elite corp can't even contest some of them unless they spread out.
300 spartans in open steppe would not have gone as well, with no goat path to be enveloped by spartans would have done much better. To early to tell if numbers vs quality will tip toward quality. On a single battle, quality of course. Goons won't care if they can meet goals by bypassing strongpoint imperfects can hold indefinably.
Some goons do play fps, they are just not necessarily goonswarm. The something awful forum has many corps/clans in different games and genre. I knew a guy that kept complaining about goons beating his clan in team fortress, and I knew a goon number of years back involved in the "goon swim team" that crashed a wow server. Goon in high school was always playing counter strike.
For record, I am in no way connected to goons. Just met a few in real life, and used to check Photoshop Phriday section of something awful for the humor. 300 spartains still lost. and then they got schooled again with a full force. goes to show what a warrior society becomes.
there are also inherent flaws with being too good for school. you place a 100k isk on a district. not many people with actual stuff to lose will bother. thus turning over the planet easily.
a small group of 20 can place multiple contracts out on different districts. they will probably flip a good 15+ without actually trying. |
Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2013.02.07 00:33:00 -
[77] - Quote
Stormy Geddon wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Berserker007 wrote: Id still take us. Hell, do one better. We'd be able to do what the 300 spartans couldn't do against the numbers, we will WIN... MOLON LABE
BOB tried that. They discovered that eighty frigates versus eight battleships was not a fight stacked in their favor. There's a difference. In EVE you can swarm 80 players against 8. In Dust, you can't. Each team will have the same number of players in a given match, so numbers < skill, which kind of goes against the Goon strategy. Not to say there aren't skilled goons out there, but the thing that sets them apart is their ability to zerg their enemies. The Pandemic Legion comparison is much better, but assumes we give a damn about getting their attention. Just because PL is a great merc corp in EVE doesn't mean we are trying to be them or need their attention. Why does this thread feel so negative? I am not aware of any hostility between us and any EVE corp, so why not just answer the question? We do not know the exact nature of how EVE and Dust will interact, so we have a policy of keeping our options open. We are not linked to the Goons in any way. By my understanding, Immobile Infantry are the Goon presence here, and many of them seem like decent enough people, so perhaps we may work with them when it serves a purpose, or maybe we'll be on the other side. Depends on the money. We are mercs, after all. But seeing as how the Goons probably have the most money to throw around, seems like they have the most ability to afford the best, which is us. I have to disagree.
Yes I believe the IMPs would win almost every single match they are in. However, depending on how CCP implements timers and territory ownership, GSF or similar could attack simultaneously many many districts/planets and the IMPs might not have the numbers to defend all the districts that are attacked even though we all believe that they could successfully defend each district that they could man a full team for.
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