how are tanks Overpowered?

a forge gun equivalent to the tank pretty much 2-4 shot kills it.

Oh wait, are U mad your AV grenades don't instapop the caldari tanks?

Swap to Flux nades, they strip shields like a boss.

The HAVs have been nerfed to hell. they don't need another nerf.

And when I say my LOLroll tank? I mean the cheapseat thing i have the skills for that me and my family make bets on how long it takes someone to pop me. It's a bucket of laughs. I think I lost like eight of them in a row over the course of three battles.

It was a blast.

Who said tanks are OP? And you've spent too much of this thread assuming that drivers are never blueberries, but gunners always are. Have I ever told you about the time I hopped into the small blaster of a random blueberry's HAV? The driver (using a large blaster) got 1 or 2 kills before an AVer took it out. I got at least 5, and they didn't even fire a shot by the time I got most of the kills.

yet you still have not explained why thiss change should happen beyond it fits your mental model of symmetry somehow.

Not good enough

Read the thread. Until you do, your opinion has absolutely no weight.

Instead of asking CCP to change what already exists why not ask for a variation?

If you want a HAV that needs a seperate gunner to driver why not request that aswell as having a solo HAV?

If you were to put it to the community I would put money on people wanting it to stay as it is but im sure they wouldnt say no to having the option to have a two man HAV.

The more of a variety the better

Then perhaps it could be a completely different variation altogether. The current ones could be light tanks; a variant with a separately controlled main turret could be a heavy tank- as the name suggests, it would be tougher to encourage the use of them.

You haven't given any reason why tanks should be different, the only support is that it is that way, and so it should stay.

Then perhaps it could be a completely different variation altogether. The current ones could be light tanks; a variant with a separately controlled main turret could be a heavy tank- as the name suggests, it would be tougher to encourage the use of them.

Instead of asking CCP to change what already exists why not ask for a variation?

If you want a HAV that needs a seperate gunner to driver why not request that aswell as having a solo HAV?

If you were to put it to the community I would put money on people wanting it to stay as it is but im sure they wouldnt say no to having the option to have a two man HAV.

The more of a variety the better

It's a decent idea, and it has been proposed before, but there was a roadblock that killed it then that I shall divulge now. If you make what we dubbed the Super Heavy Attack Vehicle(SHAV) stronger than the HAV by the same degree that the HAV is two steps above the LAV, then it's too damn strong. The HAV would need to be weakened, becoming less damaging, less durable, maybe even physically smaller, and faster so that the SHAV would still be stronger and slower by comparison, but not as strong as it would have to be otherwise, ROFLstomping instillation and such. And I'm sure you see exactly what happened from there...

Updated OP.

While I firmly believe this change would make it easier for me to murder you in your shiny sagaris marauders, with a militia forge gun (I will kill one of you buttheads one of these days) I must say that this thread's premise is dumb.

By requiring a turret gunner you render the OWNER of the tank largely impotent to defend his very expensive piece of gear. and while I frequently say ISK paid should not translate to niche protection, a 2 million ISK tank should equate to 2 million ISK of tank shock and require another tank or a Heavy who plays like me (for teh trollz) in a proto fit to easily demolish your toys.

this would, in fact, remove a lot of the difficulty because the drivers do not usually consider optimal firing positions for their gunners when engaging. thusly making them easy meat for me to pick off.

so while Heavies need a buff...

this in not the buff you are looking for. this is taking away any fun factor for the drivers of tanks and punishing them for cranking oodles of skills into turret improvements.

besides, it's the future. The driver plugs himself in and controls the main functions of the tank with his mind. he's a mini-capsuleer.

Bad idea is bad and you should be ashamed of yourself.

lol already put down Mobius fo suggesting this dumb idea
to drop some logic on u OP what happens when MTACs and Fighters get added?
u gonna have 1 person operate the legs of the MTAC and 1 gun or have more than 1 person fly a jet?
ppl need to accept that there will be single manned vehicles thats just how it is

tanks already need support as is with either good gunners in the small turrets or ground infantry

ppl need to stop comparing LAVs and Dropships needing 2 ppl to a tank