hit detection improved?

Aren't they supposed to be?

I've been using scout suits in my alt this build and I find them very useful in running behind groups of enemies taking out an entire squad with shotgun a sub machine guns.

IMO they still have their uses.

I use the speed upgrade and the profile dampener with dmg upgrades. Works out pretty well most of the time depending on the map.

Oh good point they are still really the only viable option for sgs. And in that regard they work ok. Still the second any one sees youits game over preaty quick.

I play scout but its always 3 ar bullets and boom dead cant even survive 1 crappy mass driver nuke and its true if the selling point of a scout is speed why does every 1 kill them fast doesnt help that most ppl use aim assist which locks on you no matter how fast which make scout speed useless to begin with

In my experience, again it depends on the map. If someone sees me I would usually run for cover and stalk them again from a different direction.

It really feels like your hunting prey.

I'm sure you meant 3 AR bursts not bullets. That being said the scouts are really paper thin if you look at their total hit points so that is pretty expected.

My suggestion is to invest in skills that would make you last longer(I.e. Mechanics and shields) once you've got your offensive skills up.

Proper way to play non sniper scouts is to hit HARD and hit FIRST. if they hit you first then you did something wrong. If there's cover around you, run away rinse and repeat. If no cover pray that you're a better shot. Lol.

Actualy while Im pointing out things that should be scraped as pointless, we should get rid of armor, I mean its preaty pointless.

Its definitely hard out there for a scout right now. Compared to other suits they are definitely at the biggest disadvantage, their hp is much lower than the other suits but their advantages are only slightly higher. Hopefully modules come to balance them out with the other suits but sadly the OP is right when they don't have much use in comparison to heavies, assaults, or logistics.

But then someone put armor on a scout and suddenly... !

Armor can seem sort of crap until you go up against a squad with one of those laser guys, or a bunch of pulse nades, and suddenly shield tanking sort of looks like it does as much good as putting tape on the windows just before the tornado strikes...

There are a lot of tweaks and you start to see some rock paper scissors type strategy for attacks and counters going on but mainly players will stick with what is proven to be safe no matter what game developers throw at them. Give it time and the whole thing will hopefully evolve.

Looking at the evolution of dedicated PvP builds in Demon's Souls you see players creating new and interesting weapon and spell combinations over months and years of fighting each other. The best possible thing happened with that game when From released it: they made a few patches at the very beginning, and called it done. It was then up to the players to figure out what they could do with the game. What was and was not pointless.

I think the very sad thing that has happened in the beta (even though it is also what we as testers are expected to do, i.e. test and give feedback) is that something will be discovered that is good. And then many payers will adopt that something and use it to get kills. And then many players will cry in the forums for the devs to change that thing to make it not so good. And players are never given the chance or opportunity to discover counters or come up with any creative alternatives.

This is part of why DUST 514 has turned out to be a lot more generic than I had hoped it would be. Though I still hope that there is scope enough in what we have left for these natural evolutions in finding the most OP combination of weapons, skills, suits and modules, then finding a way to beat that unbeatable combination to yet take place. And I am positive there is a lot of undiscovered territory in DUSTGǪ Take the laser for example. When it first came out on the market it almost seemed like an lol weapon. There were a few players that saw the potential and even pointed out that it might be joining the ranks of the OP PLEASE NURF DIS NOW! But for the most part not many players took it seriously. Two months later? Nerf lazors. But we should really learn how to deal with things in game as much as turning to the forums as the best possible counter to that which kills us.

Otherwise it may turn out more like you've pictured it above. Why bother with half the stuff you can skill into?