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Sleepy Zan
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Posted - 2013.01.20 07:57:00 -
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Its definitely hard out there for a scout right now. Compared to other suits they are definitely at the biggest disadvantage, their hp is much lower than the other suits but their advantages are only slightly higher. Hopefully modules come to balance them out with the other suits but sadly the OP is right when they don't have much use in comparison to heavies, assaults, or logistics. |
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Posted - 2013.01.20 21:42:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:Here is what I think: it's all probably because of the SP wipe. Baseline scout is super weak. I started a thread about this las build and was crying a lot but then what I noticed was that with some scount specific modules later on I caught up with other ppl who were using non-scout suits - and not just the noobs but some ppl in proto stuff.
After the wipe, though, scout is back to being:
a) paperthin with a dismal shield regen speed
b) too slow to outrun/ dodge you opponent
c) no significant signature profile advantage to be able to stay off the radar
d) SG w/o sharpshooter and other augments is a crap weapon with range of a kitchen knife
Oh, almost forgot: The current turtle SP gain definitely discourages me to play scout as it would take some crazy time investment just to be able to be on par with standard suits of other kinds. I dunno, CCP, something feels sour again.
Yep pretty much scouts are in the opposite boat of heavies, they start out at a disadvantage then they have to play catch up. Last build I was fortunate enough to get into A-series scout pretty quickly and it didn't preform to bad. Even though they can catch up later in the build I still think they at least need a buff in their base scan profile and scan precision to actually help them play a distinctive role in comparison to other suits. |
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Posted - 2013.01.21 00:34:00 -
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Knarf Black wrote:Don't forget about their low profile. Pump up dropsuit command and add a profile dampener to your fitting; you'll be practically invisible unless someone has you directly in their sights.
It's 5 points less than the assault.  |
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Posted - 2013.01.21 00:52:00 -
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Arramakaian Eka wrote:Volgair wrote:Can you get a positive KD as a scout? yes. Is it easier to just run and gun as an assault? In just about every measurable way, yes. With a much higher score on average to boot. Not everybody measures fun in terms of KDR. If you want to measure your e-peen with high KDR, go heavy or snipe. If you want a challenge, go scout.
Still he makes a point the scouts do need a buff. Right now their only significant advantage is a long sprint duration and fast shield recharge rate, anything to do with stealth or actual scouting can be done with an assault suit. Even shotgunning and sniping is more effective in a tanked assault than in a scout. |
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Posted - 2013.01.21 06:30:00 -
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fred orpaul wrote:so many giving advice, Im well aware how a scout works. Im asking if anyone notices a difference this build...
I see no difference in this build compared to last other than hit detection. |
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Posted - 2013.01.21 06:42:00 -
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Morathi III wrote:Im not that good than sleepy zan, thanks for is comment on this post, but im a scout specialist right now and i can say go for A type fast climb your shield to got complex extander and take basic armor with shotgun thats pretty nice fit for me but i guess they need to got a kind of cloak or a + 15 shield hp on their basic profile to get even the scout and the other classes.
Thats my opinion
Pretty much I agree with this for the way to go with a scout. After you reach A-Series you can sit on that for awhile while skilling to other areas as needed. I don't think the scout needs an hp boost it's only really the fact that it has a shortage of high slots in the standard tier that fucks it over in the beginning. Still I would like to see more than just a 10% difference in the scan profile from the assault suit (Assault suit 50 prof/ Scout 45 prof).
Right now the only identity a scout holds that differs from other suit is that it knows how to GTFO. I would like to see something more significant. |
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Posted - 2013.01.21 09:48:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:I use a militia grade (Dragonfly) scout suit with a free fit. by the way the valor is solidly better.
But I use the scoutsuit as a line breacher. get behind the enemy, or flank them. I use profile damps, AV grenades for the LAV BumperTards, damage mods and a shotgun. Or Ill swap the damps for a codebreaker in skirmish. works about as well.
I play assassin. my favorite thing is to find red dots, preferrably 4 at a time and see how many I can murder in rapid order without dying. 4 is my record in a single encounter. did it twice. 2-3 shots tops to kill prototypes one well aimed shot for any of the others.
The seekrit of scouting?
Never stop moving.
Dragonfly and Valor suits are both standard |
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