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BIG FAT FUC
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.01.19 15:56:00 -
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Making toll house cookies is easy please nerf ASAP |
Leviticus Krauthammer
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
27
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Posted - 2013.01.19 16:05:00 -
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Mr Zitro wrote:BIG FAT FUC wrote:Please nerf all 3 foot fences. They're too tall. btw zitro your discussion of balance always effects the gear you never use. Hmm. i have alts just like everyone else, heavies are too easy. Where am i wrong?
Against infantry I will not argue with you. What is going to happen when people spec into tanks? Heavies should be able to help defend their squad against vehicles. If you nerf the heavies and remove their ability to counter the tanks then this game will turn into WoT. |
Mr Zitro
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
417
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Posted - 2013.01.19 16:45:00 -
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Leviticus Krauthammer wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:BIG FAT FUC wrote:Please nerf all 3 foot fences. They're too tall. btw zitro your discussion of balance always effects the gear you never use. Hmm. i have alts just like everyone else, heavies are too easy. Where am i wrong? Against infantry I will not argue with you. What is going to happen when people spec into tanks? Heavies should be able to help defend their squad against vehicles. If you nerf the heavies and remove their ability to counter the tanks then this game will turn into WoT. I am spec into tanks, and what counters a tank is swarms and av nades not heavies and forges. if you have no knowlage of vehicle and av combat dont talk please |
semperfi1999
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
317
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Posted - 2013.01.19 16:45:00 -
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Drommy Hood wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:Its just the Zitro effect. you nerf my stuff yours is next :) I admit that HMGs are way too easy to use, makes me take great joy in mowing down garbage heavies just piggybacking on the HMG. Nerf the suit any more though, and there really won't be much point in playing a heavy. They're already very easy to kill if you don't get caught with your pants down, and engage at a proper range, especially if you use a laser. Never mind the very underwhelming progression of heavy suits as time goes on. It just amuses me, that as good as you are, you have trouble with these HMG spamming noobs. Rather, I smell a hidden agenda, considering you understand how powerful tank play is and is going to be, and you'd like to see heavies (the primary infantry answer to tanks) brought down as much as possible. This is why you focus your posts lately at "heavies" and not "heavy machine guns" Just sayin. I disagree with you there tbh. No ads, poor range, slow turning, 4.8 minute reload and to tip it all of they do less dps than a AR (if its not less its similar, at work so can't check the maths right now, feel free to put the math in for me anyone ) The thing the heavy has going for it IMO is the scare factor. So many times someone takes a shot at me wipes out my sheild, (type 2) then runs away, and normally gets a back full of metal. If they'd keep that ar on me for an extra second I'd probably be toast. Lasers, now they need a nerf, they take down anything you point them at, and don't say oh but you have to keep them on target, cos surprisingly the rest of the guns don't fire tracking bullets either.
Your way off. They do 20 dmg per hit if I remember correctly but have a ROF of 2000 which is essentially like the AR doing 50 dmg per shot. |
Leviticus Krauthammer
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
27
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Posted - 2013.01.19 16:48:00 -
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Mr Zitro wrote:Leviticus Krauthammer wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:BIG FAT FUC wrote:Please nerf all 3 foot fences. They're too tall. btw zitro your discussion of balance always effects the gear you never use. Hmm. i have alts just like everyone else, heavies are too easy. Where am i wrong? Against infantry I will not argue with you. What is going to happen when people spec into tanks? Heavies should be able to help defend their squad against vehicles. If you nerf the heavies and remove their ability to counter the tanks then this game will turn into WoT. I am spec into tanks, and what counters a tank is swarms and av nades not heavies and forges. if you have no knowlage of vehicle and av combat dont talk please
My aren't you a real sweetie. Okay Mr. know-it-all please enlighten me what the Forge gun is used for then? |
Gunner Nightingale
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
217
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Posted - 2013.01.19 16:48:00 -
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Mr Zitro wrote:Leviticus Krauthammer wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:BIG FAT FUC wrote:Please nerf all 3 foot fences. They're too tall. btw zitro your discussion of balance always effects the gear you never use. Hmm. i have alts just like everyone else, heavies are too easy. Where am i wrong? Against infantry I will not argue with you. What is going to happen when people spec into tanks? Heavies should be able to help defend their squad against vehicles. If you nerf the heavies and remove their ability to counter the tanks then this game will turn into WoT. I am spec into tanks, and what counters a tank is swarms and av nades not heavies and forges. if you have no knowlage of vehicle and av combat dont talk please
What about Assault FG yo! that thing makes putty outta tanks!
Whoever possess this NERFHAMMER should they be worthy will have the power of Zitro |
BIG FAT FUC
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
20
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Posted - 2013.01.19 16:54:00 -
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Leviticus Krauthammer wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:Leviticus Krauthammer wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:BIG FAT FUC wrote:Please nerf all 3 foot fences. They're too tall. btw zitro your discussion of balance always effects the gear you never use. Hmm. i have alts just like everyone else, heavies are too easy. Where am i wrong? Against infantry I will not argue with you. What is going to happen when people spec into tanks? Heavies should be able to help defend their squad against vehicles. If you nerf the heavies and remove their ability to counter the tanks then this game will turn into WoT. I am spec into tanks, and what counters a tank is swarms and av nades not heavies and forges. if you have no knowlage of vehicle and av combat dont talk please My aren't you a real sweetie. Okay Mr. know-it-all please enlighten me what the Forge gun is used for then?
QFTW and proves the point your only interest is to homogenize this game to fit the play-style you like everything that threatens that must be destroyed. Good luck with the long lasting career as a CCP developer. Don't quit the day job. Oh I forgot playing god mode on this game for free is your job.
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xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1452
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Posted - 2013.01.19 16:58:00 -
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Leviticus Krauthammer wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:Leviticus Krauthammer wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:BIG FAT FUC wrote:Please nerf all 3 foot fences. They're too tall. btw zitro your discussion of balance always effects the gear you never use. Hmm. i have alts just like everyone else, heavies are too easy. Where am i wrong? Against infantry I will not argue with you. What is going to happen when people spec into tanks? Heavies should be able to help defend their squad against vehicles. If you nerf the heavies and remove their ability to counter the tanks then this game will turn into WoT. I am spec into tanks, and what counters a tank is swarms and av nades not heavies and forges. if you have no knowlage of vehicle and av combat dont talk please My aren't you a real sweetie. Okay Mr. know-it-all please enlighten me what the Forge gun is used for then?
The forge gun primarily used to kill shield tanks, or any vehicle that favors shields over armor for that matter. |
Passive Skill
Doomheim
2
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Posted - 2013.01.19 17:09:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:Leviticus Krauthammer wrote:Mr Zitro wrote: I am spec into tanks, and what counters a tank is swarms and av nades not heavies and forges. if you have no knowlage of vehicle and av combat dont talk please
My aren't you a real sweetie. Okay Mr. know-it-all please enlighten me what the Forge gun is used for then? The forge gun primarily used to kill shield tanks, or any vehicle that favors shields over armor for that matter. ' pardon the guy for he hasnt drink from the pool of universal knowledge that zitro von chIMP thought on armor tanks... |
Astral Zan
Doomheim
31
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Posted - 2013.01.19 17:11:00 -
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Vane Arcadia wrote:new hulk wrote:Im sick of all the scrubs out scoring me with a assault load out, so instead of griping make a heavy alt and see how you great killers do bet you aint that good. zitro hasn't used a heavy once like i never used a assault but i think the assault is over powered, in my opinion. I agree - all I see is Gek Gek Gek - soon it will be Douvolle blah blah. Assult guns are way way over powered in this game - seem to have sniper range too ! not even close |
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
642
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Posted - 2013.01.19 17:16:00 -
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All these supposed "great players" QQ'ing about heavies...smh.
If you only played as one you'll realize it's not all that. The sh!t's weak tbh, unless you know how to play...like EVERY other class.
If it gets nerfed again then there won't be a point playing as a heavy...which I'm sure is what most of these Assault / tankers want. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2048
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Posted - 2013.01.19 17:30:00 -
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The only solution to avoid a heavy nerf is for everyone to switch to heavy then we can point fingers at shotguns. |
iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
283
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Posted - 2013.01.19 17:36:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:The only solution to avoid a heavy nerf is for everyone to switch to heavy then we can point fingers at shotguns.
its endless.
Heavy will get nerfed and we will be back to AssAR supremacy again (not that the don't already dominate the battlefield), then CCP will look at the stats and nerf Assaults and/or ARs. Then those people will complain about heavies again.
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Beld Errmon
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
479
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Posted - 2013.01.19 17:36:00 -
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I hope they don't nerf them for a while yet, Im going to train them up myself and start playing the game on easy mode too. |
Mr Zitro
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
417
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Posted - 2013.01.19 17:36:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:All these supposed "great players" QQ'ing about heavies...smh.
If you only played as one you'll realize it's not all that. The sh!t's weak tbh, unless you know how to play...like EVERY other class.
If it gets nerfed again then there won't be a point playing as a heavy...which I'm sure is what most of these Assault / tankers want. Mavado dont tell you accepted this kids app -.- he is Zion quality not SyN |
BIG FAT FUC
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
20
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Posted - 2013.01.19 17:40:00 -
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Mr Zitro wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:All these supposed "great players" QQ'ing about heavies...smh.
If you only played as one you'll realize it's not all that. The sh!t's weak tbh, unless you know how to play...like EVERY other class.
If it gets nerfed again then there won't be a point playing as a heavy...which I'm sure is what most of these Assault / tankers want. Mavado dont tell you accepted this kids app -.- he is Zion quality not SyN
Yes Mavado please refer to zitro for all your HR choices the game will only get better if he get to choose who you play with along with what weapons you use. Man get over yourself the more you "win" at this game the more it becomes apparent you lose at life. |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
248
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Posted - 2013.01.19 17:43:00 -
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It is not necessarily a nerf heavies are getting.
Some may remember that in E3 heavies were given a "temporary" fix before CCP could do well enough what they wanted.
The E3 fix was about: Lessen heavy armor temporarily until the heavies' slower turning speed can be implemented. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2013.01.19 17:50:00 -
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Mr Zitro wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:All these supposed "great players" QQ'ing about heavies...smh.
If you only played as one you'll realize it's not all that. The sh!t's weak tbh, unless you know how to play...like EVERY other class.
If it gets nerfed again then there won't be a point playing as a heavy...which I'm sure is what most of these Assault / tankers want. Mavado dont tell you accepted this kids app -.- he is Zion quality not SyN
Lance kd speaks for itself considering he runs both assault and heavy and Lance is very much SyN quality and an officer in SyN hes been with us since BF3 and is a very good player.
I see no problems with heavies tbqh Zitro i drop them easy, they get the drop on me i go down
there is almost no point to using a prototype heavy since heavies are actually gimped slot wise. one of ur own guys laid it out best Zitro.......a low lvl heavy > low lvl assault but high lvl assault >> high lvl heavy
right now everyone is low still rockin standard suits. A heavy should be tough to take out within his element solo or they'd be no point in using the dropsuit at all
Assault suit is actually the easiest role to play since its so versatile. Other suits u have to play a certain way in order to do well with the suit. |
xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1452
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Posted - 2013.01.19 18:01:00 -
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When I can run around with an HMG on my assault suit then the heavy's will be balanced. |
BIG FAT FUC
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
20
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Posted - 2013.01.19 18:05:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:When I can run around with an HMG on my assault suit then the heavy's will be balanced.
Another QFTW and great insight to the typical "vision" most the Imp'a have. |
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Mr Zitro
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
417
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Posted - 2013.01.19 18:07:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:All these supposed "great players" QQ'ing about heavies...smh.
If you only played as one you'll realize it's not all that. The sh!t's weak tbh, unless you know how to play...like EVERY other class.
If it gets nerfed again then there won't be a point playing as a heavy...which I'm sure is what most of these Assault / tankers want. Mavado dont tell you accepted this kids app -.- he is Zion quality not SyN Lance kd speaks for itself considering he runs both assault and heavy and Lance is very much SyN quality and an officer in SyN hes been with us since BF3 and is a very good player. I see no problems with heavies tbqh Zitro i drop them easy, they get the drop on me i go down there is almost no point to using a prototype heavy since heavies are actually gimped slot wise. one of ur own guys laid it out best Zitro.......a low lvl heavy > low lvl assault but high lvl assault >> high lvl heavy right now everyone is low still rockin standard suits. A heavy should be tough to take out within his element solo or they'd be no point in using the dropsuit at all Assault suit is actually the easiest role to play since its so versatile. Other suits u have to play a certain way in order to do well with the suit. i wasnt talking about stats i dont care really, im talking about how he thinks. its on par with a random zion kid |
Gunner Nightingale
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
217
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Posted - 2013.01.19 18:08:00 -
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for me the issue is the hmg range not the heavy dropsuit, really heavy dropsuits need a buff in either armor with current movement speeds or extra cpu/pg.
Personally i think heavies should lose grenade slot in favor of equipment slot. I mean i think that is better in terms of balance for them, not really sure why a heavy should have the need for grenades except AV nades but perhaps in that case create a variant that allows for either a nade slot or an equipment slot. Or make AV nades fiable to equipment slot for heavy suits only. |
BIG FAT FUC
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
20
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Posted - 2013.01.19 18:13:00 -
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Mr Zitro wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:All these supposed "great players" QQ'ing about heavies...smh.
If you only played as one you'll realize it's not all that. The sh!t's weak tbh, unless you know how to play...like EVERY other class.
If it gets nerfed again then there won't be a point playing as a heavy...which I'm sure is what most of these Assault / tankers want. Mavado dont tell you accepted this kids app -.- he is Zion quality not SyN Lance kd speaks for itself considering he runs both assault and heavy and Lance is very much SyN quality and an officer in SyN hes been with us since BF3 and is a very good player. I see no problems with heavies tbqh Zitro i drop them easy, they get the drop on me i go down there is almost no point to using a prototype heavy since heavies are actually gimped slot wise. one of ur own guys laid it out best Zitro.......a low lvl heavy > low lvl assault but high lvl assault >> high lvl heavy right now everyone is low still rockin standard suits. A heavy should be tough to take out within his element solo or they'd be no point in using the dropsuit at all Assault suit is actually the easiest role to play since its so versatile. Other suits u have to play a certain way in order to do well with the suit. i wasnt talking about stats i dont care really, im talking about how he thinks. its on par with a random zion kid
You're a joke zitro, you chest thump for the last 9 months and use your stats to measure your epeen, then say you don't care and get to the truth you don't like the way he "thinks". So in the end you've completely undermined any perceived credit you claim or feel deserved and shown your'e a blockhead. Please your stupidity is astounding I look forward to more of your though police ideas. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1906
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Posted - 2013.01.19 18:17:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:When I can run around with an HMG on my assault suit then the heavy's will be balanced.
Sorry, they already fixed your breach rifle. |
Jotun Hiem
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
413
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Posted - 2013.01.19 18:19:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:Your way off. They do 20 dmg per hit if I remember correctly but have a ROF of 2000 which is essentially like the AR doing 50 dmg per shot. Actually, the base HMG deals 16 damage per shot, with the Proto HMG bumbing that up to 17.6.
Spot on about the RoF though.
The big problem is that HMGs have terrible deviation and damage drop off at range. They basically turn into shotguns unless you're able to keep it trained long enough for the anti-recoil to kick in, but even then you can't normally engage at proper efficiency. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1906
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Posted - 2013.01.19 18:22:00 -
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I also find it quite indicative of many Assault players mentality as well, that they actually somehow believe that their assault rifle should be on par, if not better than a heavy machine gun.
Really let that sink in.
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
642
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Posted - 2013.01.19 18:28:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:I hope they don't nerf them for a while yet, Im going to train them up myself and start playing the game on easy mode too.
Good luck with your easy mode! I've seen many heavies on the battlelfield thinking they're in God mode...and those are usually the crappy ones that scout suit SMG's kill.
So yeah, go with that mentality, and I'll gladly add another notch on my HMG. |
Leviticus Krauthammer
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
27
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Posted - 2013.01.19 18:28:00 -
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[quote=Gunner Nightingale]for me the issue is the hmg range not the heavy dropsuit, really heavy dropsuits need a buff in either armor with current movement speeds or extra cpu/pg
Personally i think heavies should lose grenade slot in favor of equipment slot. I mean i think that is better in terms of balance for them, not really sure why a heavy should have the need for grenades except AV nades but perhaps in that case create a variant that allows for either a nade slot or an equipment slot. Or make AV nades fiable to equipment slot for heavy suits only.[/quote
I could go for that. I don't use HMG for distance anyhow. I like the idea that heavies should make a choice:
Grenade slot for AV OR
Equipment slot for nanohives for those heavies that chose to carry a forge gun. |
DJINN Avez
Doomheim
15
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Posted - 2013.01.19 18:39:00 -
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no |
xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1452
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Posted - 2013.01.19 18:41:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:When I can run around with an HMG on my assault suit then the heavy's will be balanced. Sorry, they already fixed your breach rifle.
ohh you meant nerfed it to the point where the only viable AR is the standard spray and pray rifle. |
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