People who ran proto gear complained that they were getting killed by militia gear.

More people complained that the gap between proto and militia gear is becoming less and less (to the point where there becomes no reason to upgrade) than they did about simply being killed by militia while in proto.

So skilled players are complaining about how this game is becoming more about skill to win a match, rather then the use of better gear.


Because that makes sense, apparently.

Don't get me wrong, there should be a reason to upgrade.

People are complaining because there's no sense of character progression when there's no benefit to using anything "better."

There is though its called a "tie breaker". Sorry if that is spelled wrong.

People are complaining because there's no sense of character progression when there's no benefit to using anything "better."

They run around, relentlessly killing everything they come across. Their situational awareness is 3 steps above the rest of those they fight with, or against. They even maximize their killing output by equipping the best gear they can afford.

But when they are downed by someone using something that is inferior to what they are using, they ***** like crazy about it. They blame everyone else for what happened to them. They blame CCP for creating an imbalanced sand box. They blame EVERYTHING else around them, and do not bother to think that...

Maybe They ****** up? maybe they made a mistake, maybe they placed themselves in a situation where they could not get out of alive. Or maybe someone was able to get past your awareness, and kill you from some odd angle that you never bothered to inspect before you ran from point A to point B.


People who ran proto gear complained that they were getting killed by militia gear. They complained that it was CCP's fault that they died, and not their own. They demanded nerfs so that no one who ran in militia gear would ever be able to kill them.

I have never complained about what I was killed by, or what level the weapon was that killed me. Do I some times get mad when someone kills me? sure. But I never rage at the weapon they used to kill me with.


To all the people who complain about dying in their expensive gear. It's your fault you died, and you only have yourself to blame. You got careless, and you were punished for it.

A skilled player would never complain about the weapon they were killed with. (unless it was stupidly overpowered, and just dominated everything everywhere.)

I came from Halo. I came from a mind set that everyone should spawn on equal terms in a competitive match, and the team with the best skill would win the match. They would not win by entering a game with better gear then their enemies. They would have to gain map control, control the power weapons, time the spawns of power weapons, learn the spawn pattern on maps to allow for spawn trapping. This game spits in the face of all of that. I had to adapt, and I have. I still play with a Halo mind set, but I acknowledge that there are things in this game that are drastically different.

i rage so hard when some one is using the heavy armor with a heavy machine gun. those ppl are c**k suckers

you mad? Guess what? You can shoot them you know... chances are you can move faster than them too...but hey! Why should anything be able to kill you right?

I'm one of those c*ck suckers, and I'll gladly shove my HMG up anyone's arse stupid enough to 1v1 me in a CQC situation.

So skilled players are complaining about how this game is becoming more about skill to win a match, rather then the use of better gear.


Because that makes sense, apparently.

Don't get me wrong, there should be a reason to upgrade.

you mad? Guess what? You can shoot them you know... chances are you can move faster than them too...but hey! Why should anything be able to kill you right?

I'm one of those c*ck suckers, and I'll gladly shove my HMG up anyone's arse stupid enough to 1v1 me in a CQC situation.

you proved my point.

So skilled players are complaining about how this game is becoming more about skill to win a match, rather then the use of better gear.


Because that makes sense, apparently.

Don't get me wrong, there should be a reason to upgrade.

Just because there's a counter for something doesn't make it balanced. It is only balanced if that counter is reasonable, as in something you don't have to constantly go out of your way to do and detracts from the gaming experience.

Triad of progress should be

Skill - 'EXP' - Gear

Skill- measure of the shooter's knowledge, experience, and sometimes physical conditioning (eye hand cord / reflexes/ muscle memory) CCP can introduce Certificates system that pure active, if done right can encourage skilling with a weapon then rewarding the merc for mastering the said system.

'EXP' aka Skill Points is the RPG part, for some its a crutch they need, for others something to master with either way its the only real level playing field in the entire game.

Gear - Gear is a meta game in the long run, eventually players in their field will unlock everything. However its the combination that people put together that makes this entire thing wonderful. Sometimes you do downgrade to fit that special officer weapon or you swap out a normally acceptable fit with something crazy... and finding out it works.

In the most recent crusade by the 'competitive' fpsers they want to remove the EXP and Gear portions entirely.

I disagree with them mostly. Gear has a place in a competitive environment provided the balances are withing 'tolerances' perfect balance will always be impossible to achieve but as long as nothing ever appears to be the clear winner or loser we're good to go. As for the competitive environment egro look at the eve online open event for 10k, you cannot imagine how much isk got thrown into those matches getting the best possible gear and in the end best modules and gear didn't win anybody anything. Superior tactics, command, and positioning and of course the pre rolled dice of ship vs ship advantages disadvantages both sides brought makes things always interesting. With corporate sponsorship on some teams it was a pretty amazing no bars hold back pvp fights ever.

RPG element I also disagree with the 'crusaders' for a flat game. WLR, KDR, KPS are irrelevant to bored players who have nothing more to fight for, and its clear that the very same people who wheezed at the EXP system even existing are continuing to complain about the daily cap.