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Zekain Kade
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.01.12 05:38:00 -
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When you guys should also be complaining about how you do not need to use any other type of locust grenade, other then the militia one. It is able to kill every suit, or heavily damage them. What's the point in using a higher leveled grenade?
Locust grenades in this game were, and still are balanced to combat replication suits. News flash, we don't have that much HP anymore. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.12 05:39:00 -
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one thing at a time man |
Moejoe Omnipotent
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.12 05:39:00 -
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Grenades are OP. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.12 05:41:00 -
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Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:Grenades are OP. You just made this thread beautiful |
crazy space 2100046106
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.12 06:33:00 -
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To be fair that's a good point :P |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
428
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Posted - 2013.01.12 06:37:00 -
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My input:
Grenades are being spammed as well as us complainers because we fight fire with fire. However, I've gotten a lot more deaths and kills from the spammers because they waste their time missing a grenade throw rather than reload.
What needs to be done about this is the radius needs to be tuned down...a lot. I think their radius beats a missile turrets. |
HowDidThatTaste
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.12 07:07:00 -
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As Much as I hate grenades! I kinda Like grenades.
They sure do make me laugh when someone goes flying into the top of the crate or ceiling, or flipping through the air. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.12 07:10:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote: As Much as I hate grenades! I kinda Like grenades.
They sure do make me laugh when someone goes flying into the top of the crate or ceiling, or flipping through the air. Don't you love that moment when you cut a corner and you see bodies flying your way? Really makes it feel like a battle |
ugg reset
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
234
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Posted - 2013.01.12 07:25:00 -
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two reasons to level into grenades:
1. standard lvl grenades give you three per load out instead of two 2. better grenades give you a bigger blas radius. |
Dusty Mokong
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.12 07:34:00 -
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Grenades are okay but that doesn't mean I like them. More than half my deaths come from them and usually as a parting shot after I kill them or as I am about to kill them.
It sucks but seems like a valid tactic. |
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G Torq
ALTA B2O
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Posted - 2013.01.12 09:16:00 -
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ugg reset wrote:two reasons to level into grenades:
1. standard lvl grenades give you three per load out instead of two 2. better grenades give you a bigger blas radius. hmm... hadn't thought about that ... guessing I should skill into some of them pineapples.
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DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
254
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Posted - 2013.01.12 09:40:00 -
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ugg reset wrote:two reasons to level into grenades:
1. standard lvl grenades give you three per load out instead of two 2. better grenades give you a bigger blas radius. Tbh you don't really need extra blast radius. Because of the short timer, they can't really run away from the nade. At least that's my experience of others chucking grenades at my fat suit lol
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I-Shayz-I
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
172
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Posted - 2013.01.12 10:48:00 -
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I think everyone has grenades now because they aren't spending a huge amount of pg/cpu on the higher level gear.
The reason I stopped using grenades a while ago is because I didn't think they were that effective or even worth it to fit onto my dropsuit. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
401
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Posted - 2013.01.12 11:12:00 -
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When folks use grenades to kill me then hey its a valid tactic. But then when I see those folks in a game as red dots and decide to also give them grenades?? Do I get messages saying good game using a valid tactic??
HELL NOOO!!!!! They send me HATE MAIL. .LOL!!!!! |
lordjanuz
Norwegian Dust514 Corporation
88
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Posted - 2013.01.12 13:13:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:When folks use grenades to kill me then hey its a valid tactic. But then when I see those folks in a game as red dots and decide to also give them grenades?? Do I get messages saying good game using a valid tactic??
HELL NOOO!!!!! They send me HATE MAIL. .LOL!!!!!
+1 Learning by doing, grenades is a perfect valid tactic. |
Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.12 13:59:00 -
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I have a buddy who likes to lay down a nanohive, stand in it, and lob grenades. Poor man's mortar, I guess. |
Eflin Trollunge
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2013.01.12 14:05:00 -
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there were worse games I forget what shooter it was but at one point the game basically became the arrow scene from 300 only with grenades.
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iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
282
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Posted - 2013.01.12 14:16:00 -
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Grenades are good heavy crackers one on one.
Ive died to some really skilled players who know just when to throw them before finishing me off with a few rounds. On the other hand there are some really bad/new players who try the same thing with hilarious results. |
RayRay James
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.01.12 14:28:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote: As Much as I hate grenades! I kinda Like grenades.
They sure do make me laugh when someone goes flying into the top of the crate or ceiling, or flipping through the air.
This is my favorite part and why I trained into better grenades last build |
Gunner Visari
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
163
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Posted - 2013.01.12 14:34:00 -
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Seriously people i guess the people who are responding that nade tossing is a valid tactic are losing something in translation from the rest of us.
For the record the reason we feel nade spam is OP is because of the instant(fuse locus) or 2s detonation on contact.
If you can cook a nade and achieve the same result then thats fine, but as it is now it has become a panic button, especially in CQC where due to its exceedingly large blast radius where it is nearly impossible to dodge.
The timer has made spamming nades EZ mode. Before if you wanted to stand on a hive and toss nades you could do so but nades wouldnt blow up for 5 seconds, now just toss and good luck getting out of the way, if you were good and could cook the nades to blow up that was one thing but now it just nothink noskill press a button. |
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arimal lavaren
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
186
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Posted - 2013.01.12 14:37:00 -
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1.)Grenades were fine and reasonably balanced before they shortened the Kitten fuse.
2.)Semi sure there bugged some how. Stats say 400 dmg grenade insta kills 800 EHP heavy's on a regular basis. reminds me of when Flux nades were near mini nukes. |
lordjanuz
Norwegian Dust514 Corporation
88
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Posted - 2013.01.12 14:48:00 -
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Gunner Visari wrote:Seriously people i guess the people who are responding that nade tossing is a valid tactic are losing something in translation from the rest of us.
For the record the reason we feel nade spam is OP is because of the instant(fuse locus) or 2s detonation on contact.
If you can cook a nade and achieve the same result then thats fine, but as it is now it has become a panic button, especially in CQC where due to its exceedingly large blast radius where it is nearly impossible to dodge.
The timer has made spamming nades EZ mode. Before if you wanted to stand on a hive and toss nades you could do so but nades wouldnt blow up for 5 seconds, now just toss and good luck getting out of the way, if you were good and could cook the nades to blow up that was one thing but now it just nothink noskill press a button.
We are now playing very close maps, some nades must be exspected. Just wait until more people put some skills in to mass drivers, its going to be a blast ... |
semperfi1999
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
317
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Posted - 2013.01.12 14:49:00 -
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I think this has more to do with the fact that heavies are mostly armor and nades do extra dog to armor. What they need to do is lower all the dmgs by 100. I know te adv is the on,y nade you need to use as it destroys even proto heavies. I agree with the thread creator nares were probably never lowered from the up nerf. |
NovaShadowStorm
The Southern Legion
63
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Posted - 2013.01.12 15:04:00 -
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Gunner Visari wrote:Seriously people i guess the people who are responding that nade tossing is a valid tactic are losing something in translation from the rest of us.
For the record the reason we feel nade spam is OP is because of the instant(fuse locus) or 2s detonation on contact.
If you can cook a nade and achieve the same result then thats fine, but as it is now it has become a panic button, especially in CQC where due to its exceedingly large blast radius where it is nearly impossible to dodge.
The timer has made spamming nades EZ mode. Before if you wanted to stand on a hive and toss nades you could do so but nades wouldnt blow up for 5 seconds, now just toss and good luck getting out of the way, if you were good and could cook the nades to blow up that was one thing but now it just nothink noskill press a button.
^ This. Nades are fine as they are it's just the timer. You have no time to get away now and thats not right, especially when I'm in a gun fight they toss a nade so I have to sprint AT them since theres no time to turn to get out of the blast radius only to have them pull out a SMG, pump me full of lead and have me die. Before you'd get at least enough time to run normally out or to the non fatal zone of the nade (assuming you weren't wearing those movement speed reducing armour plates) once it hit ground but now... it hits you sprint or you die. |
Crm234
Wraith Shadow Guards
166
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Posted - 2013.01.12 15:05:00 -
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I have mixed feelings about them
On the one side i know were over throwing them to the point of spamming and it could be the fuse. As well as i think their a valid tactic with bad spawning,bad close hit detection, and bad melee attack mechanics. Without a grenade sometimes its impossible to get someone off a roof as well. They are clearly marked when flying through the air and in this build the throwing is somewhat decent so you actually throw them, but no different than spamming Mass Drivers or Instant Death orbital strikes in my opinion |
Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
323
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Posted - 2013.01.12 15:12:00 -
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Zekain Kade wrote:When you guys should also be complaining about how you do not need to use any other type of locust grenade, other then the militia one. It is able to kill every suit, or heavily damage them. What's the point in using a higher leveled grenade?
Locust grenades in this game were, and still are balanced to combat replication suits. News flash, we don't have that much HP anymore.
Like I warned before,I'm going to post this link every single time. http://www.wikihow.com/Use-Than-and-Then
On topic,what people need to be more focused on in regards of the grenades,is the inaccurate stats that are represented.Since when does a 6 meter blast radius equal 4~5 feet?
Basically,the complaining of the grenades in this game are the equivalent of the knife in MAG.Players that perceive themselves as more skilled than the majority of the playerbase feels like they shouldn't be getting killed by a weapon that takes far less skill to use. |
arimal lavaren
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
186
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Posted - 2013.01.12 16:07:00 -
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I don't think that's it at all Th3rd, the problem is we have a grenade cooking mechanic that specifically discourages it's use. |
lordjanuz
Norwegian Dust514 Corporation
88
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Posted - 2013.01.12 16:12:00 -
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Th3rdSun wrote:Zekain Kade wrote:When you guys should also be complaining about how you do not need to use any other type of locust grenade, other then the militia one. It is able to kill every suit, or heavily damage them. What's the point in using a higher leveled grenade?
Locust grenades in this game were, and still are balanced to combat replication suits. News flash, we don't have that much HP anymore. Like I warned before,I'm going to post this link every single time. http://www.wikihow.com/Use-Than-and-ThenOn topic,what people need to be more focused on in regards of the grenades,is the inaccurate stats that are represented.Since when does a 6 meter blast radius equal 4~5 feet? Basically,the complaining of the grenades in this game are the equivalent of the knife in MAG.Players that perceive themselves as more skilled that the majority of the playerbase feels like they shouldn't be getting killed by a weapon that takes far less skill to use.
+1 |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2013.01.12 16:53:00 -
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Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:Grenades are OP.
Wait...you're an Imperfect now? Weren't they pissing on you when you made a thread on your thoughts about the game?
No biggie...just seemed a bit odd to me.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=48219 |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2013.01.12 18:58:00 -
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Kill the radius to small missile levels. Would make skilled use lethal while spam will become useless |
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