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Kain Spero
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
893
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Posted - 2013.01.11 14:16:00 -
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"Dust OB" will be the official channel for Saturday's EVE/Dust event. I could use some more moderator's EvE side in the EU and AU timezones. If you are interested please contact Kane Spero through evemail.
It would be a great help for the folks EvE side if we could get some EU and AU Dust corporation directors announcing potential and confirmed corp matches (System - Planet - District - Time) in channel.
Let's get as much interest in Dust EVE side as we can!
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=461039#post461039 |
ShutUr Mouth
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2013.01.11 21:29:00 -
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This comment has been edited by a moderator because it is in breach of the rules of conduct of this community. |
Mr Zitro
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
417
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Posted - 2013.01.11 21:31:00 -
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Lol you mad bro? We don't exploited me just dominate :) PS want lessons scrub? Get on your main |
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GM Hercules
Game Masters C C P Alliance
335
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Posted - 2013.01.11 21:31:00 -
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Please be respectful with your comments. I've edited the above comment. |
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AndThe RestWill
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
20
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Posted - 2013.01.11 21:34:00 -
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Is this Better ?
Im not MAD I just love how I find this post 3 pages back with NO Reply because you guys TROLL and PI** ON everyOne.
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AndThe RestWill
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
20
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Posted - 2013.01.11 21:35:00 -
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GM Hercules wrote:Please be respectful with your comments. I've edited the above comment.
I will for you Not for them.
Your just like US IMP Dont ask the community to care when you dont care about the Community |
Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
248
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Posted - 2013.01.11 21:37:00 -
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Didn't see the removed comment, but what ever it was it apparently wasn't good. Attacking Kain like that I cannot condone. He has been a fair and honest poster here in the forums despite how a handful of his corpmates may behave in these parts.
Congratulations, you have just made yourself a punching bag. What is your main's name? I wanna make sure that when I get bored I can aim my LAV at the right blue dot. |
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GM Hercules
Game Masters C C P Alliance
335
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Posted - 2013.01.11 21:38:00 -
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Thank you. |
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Green Living
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
52
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Posted - 2013.01.11 21:40:00 -
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Is the OB Channel open for all? Will the squads be formed from there? |
Mr Zitro
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
417
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Posted - 2013.01.11 21:41:00 -
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AndThe RestWill wrote:GM Hercules wrote:Please be respectful with your comments. I've edited the above comment. I will for you Not for them. Your just like US IMP Dont ask the community to care when you dont care about the Community Lol I won't do it for then but I will for you, so basically you will listen either way XD get on your main and stop hiding behind an alt women. Then I might actually talk to you |
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Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
914
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Posted - 2013.01.11 21:57:00 -
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On behalf of ZionTCD, I would like to say that we support the testing of the Dust and Eve and how they work together.
At the same time, I would also like to let everyone know that when they were asked about helping the community in the past thorugh more actual testing of this sort, Zitro said that Imperfects had no intention of improving the community through testing of the Beta whatsoever. The irony is that they now think it a good idea to do this, and are attempting to test the game 2 weeks before release when they have had several months to do so leading up to now.
As a result, while members of ZionTCD are welcome to participate in what looks to be a fun and possibly worthwhile test, I can only shake my head at the Imperfects attempts to improve an image built on hate, derision, and blatant disregard for the community as a whole to this point. |
DudE Just Die
Red Star.
17
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Posted - 2013.01.11 22:01:00 -
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Mr Zitro wrote:AndThe RestWill wrote:GM Hercules wrote:Please be respectful with your comments. I've edited the above comment. I will for you Not for them. Your just like US IMP Dont ask the community to care when you dont care about the Community Lol I won't do it for then but I will for you, so basically you will listen either way XD get on your main and stop hiding behind an alt women. Then I might actually talk to you
LOL Wow playing video game instead of doing homework has messed up your spelling bro "I won't do it for then...?"
You going to quote someone do it right. Write down my name if you want my PSN that bad Sherlock. This whole post is one HUGE Fail! |
DudE Just Die
Red Star.
17
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Posted - 2013.01.11 22:09:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:Didn't see the removed comment, but what ever it was it apparently wasn't good. Attacking Kain like that I cannot condone. He has been a fair and honest poster here in the forums despite how a handful of his corpmates may behave in these parts.
Congratulations, you have just made yourself a punching bag. What is your main's name? I wanna make sure that when I get bored I can aim my LAV at the right blue dot.
OH! So scared... You see Im not attacking the man that wrote the OP. Just the stupidity of his corp for harassing and PO everyone off in Dust and then asking for their help as if they have been kind and understanding and supportive to all of you.
Your an Imp pet and they would NEVER defend you.
Tell me Zitro on a scale of 1-10 how much better is Imp over Lotis? |
GallenteScout Killer
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2013.01.11 22:12:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:On behalf of ZionTCD, I would like to say that we support the testing of the Dust and Eve and how they work together.
At the same time, I would also like to let everyone know that when they were asked about helping the community in the past thorugh more actual testing of this sort, Zitro said that Imperfects had no intention of improving the community through testing of the Beta whatsoever. The irony is that they now think it a good idea to do this, and are attempting to test the game 2 weeks before release when they have had several months to do so leading up to now.
As a result, while members of ZionTCD are welcome to participate in what looks to be a fun and possibly worthwhile test, I can only shake my head at the Imperfects attempts to improve an image built on hate, derision, and blatant disregard for the community as a whole to this point.
Wow Zion is sucking up to Imperfect's as well? |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
914
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Posted - 2013.01.11 22:29:00 -
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GallenteScout Killer wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:On behalf of ZionTCD, I would like to say that we support the testing of the Dust and Eve and how they work together.
At the same time, I would also like to let everyone know that when they were asked about helping the community in the past thorugh more actual testing of this sort, Zitro said that Imperfects had no intention of improving the community through testing of the Beta whatsoever. The irony is that they now think it a good idea to do this, and are attempting to test the game 2 weeks before release when they have had several months to do so leading up to now.
As a result, while members of ZionTCD are welcome to participate in what looks to be a fun and possibly worthwhile test, I can only shake my head at the Imperfects attempts to improve an image built on hate, derision, and blatant disregard for the community as a whole to this point. Wow Zion is sucking up to Imperfect's as well?
Sarcasm?
This is support for the community wide test, not for the organizers.
EDIT: Most of the Imperfects are welcome to die in a fire, as far as I'm concerned, and I would happily help them on their way (in game). Hope that clears up my position on this matter. |
Latina-Maffia
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
6
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Posted - 2013.01.11 22:30:00 -
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Mr Zitro wrote:AndThe RestWill wrote:GM Hercules wrote:Please be respectful with your comments. I've edited the above comment. I will for you Not for them. Your just like US IMP Dont ask the community to care when you dont care about the Community Lol I won't do it for then but I will for you, so basically you will listen either way XD get on your main and stop hiding behind an alt women. Then I might actually talk to you
Zitro:
I've said it before and I'll say it again.....WOW....once again mindless babble with nothing of great importance to say. Some people should learn to either say something nice and constructive or not say anything at all. In fact, it would do you some good to learn from your corp member HowDidThatTaste and take the civil way about things in giving advice.
"CIVILITY COSTS NOTHING" - people alone, not to mention this world would be better off with that in mind.
For you to quote something....please do it correctly, or you place yourself in the position of looking like an ass.
Secondly for you to degrade a person by her gender is truly pathetic and for you to think that one would even care that someone would...as you put it "might actually talk to you" is beyond sad...but then again, whatever floats your boat. Don't think for one second that you are any better than anyone around. You disgrace your corps name as do many of your corp members. I've found far and few of your members to be worthy of respect.....where you sir are lacking! With that said, be careful of what you say cuz karma's a ***** and when you try to prove yourself to be worthy or almighty, it just points in the direction of lacking elsewhere as well....I leave that to what conclusion you think fits best, but I'm sure it won't be the conclusion of many who already read your words of sad gibberish.
EDITED: To make sure I wasn't misunderstood in who this post was for. |
Kain Spero
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
893
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Posted - 2013.01.11 22:35:00 -
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Green Living wrote:Is the OB Channel open for all? Will the squads be formed from there?
The channel, "Dust OB", will be open to everyone. It's going to be for primarily communicating to the EVE guys the locations for the Orbital support and when OBs are ready. |
Groza Tragediya
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
72
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Posted - 2013.01.11 22:35:00 -
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She is awesome. +1 |
Tiel Syysch
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
633
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Posted - 2013.01.11 23:20:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:The irony is that they now think it a good idea to do this, and are attempting to test the game 2 weeks before release when they have had several months to do so leading up to now.
I hope you realize that we have people that regularly do more testing than most others registered for the beta. You just don't see, remember or care about the threads because everyone's biased against our opinions, ideas and feedback, no matter how legitimate they are. |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
914
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Posted - 2013.01.11 23:24:00 -
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Tiel Syysch wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:The irony is that they now think it a good idea to do this, and are attempting to test the game 2 weeks before release when they have had several months to do so leading up to now. I hope you realize that we have people that regularly do more testing than most others registered for the beta. You just don't see, remember or care about the threads because everyone's biased against our opinions, ideas and feedback, no matter how legitimate they are.
My comment is based on a conversation I had with Zitro that you weren't part of, thank you.
EDIT: I'm not also not biased against your corp - there are a handful that I enjoy bantering with and talk to (Cyn for example). As for your testing, Cyn is the only one I've noticed say anything constructive on the forums, which I read every day when I'm at work waiting for the phone to ring. |
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Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis
300
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Posted - 2013.01.11 23:26:00 -
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Tiel Syysch wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:The irony is that they now think it a good idea to do this, and are attempting to test the game 2 weeks before release when they have had several months to do so leading up to now. I hope you realize that we have people that regularly do more testing than most others registered for the beta. You just don't see, remember or care about the threads because everyone's biased against our opinions, ideas and feedback, no matter how legitimate they are.
To be fair here, your guys' PR ability (if you can call it that) hasn't been the greatest. I'm not knocking that some of you guys have done your fair share of bringing to light kinks in this game throughout testing, but when a good portion of your members openly mock, destructively criticize, and in general bad mouth most of the community, it doesn't lend itself to a remembering or caring about what you guys say. With, of course, the exception of a few. |
Tiel Syysch
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
633
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Posted - 2013.01.11 23:35:00 -
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Polish Hammer wrote:Tiel Syysch wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:The irony is that they now think it a good idea to do this, and are attempting to test the game 2 weeks before release when they have had several months to do so leading up to now. I hope you realize that we have people that regularly do more testing than most others registered for the beta. You just don't see, remember or care about the threads because everyone's biased against our opinions, ideas and feedback, no matter how legitimate they are. To be fair here, your guys' PR ability (if you can call it that) hasn't been the greatest. I'm not knocking that some of you guys have done your fair share of bringing to light kinks in this game throughout testing, but when a good portion of your members openly mock, destructively criticize, and in general bad mouth most of the community, it doesn't lend itself to a remembering or caring about what you guys say. With, of course, the exception of a few. Are you aware that the badmouthing began from people attacking us? And that this "good portion" of our members is about 10% or so? It began with us staying silent and people creating rumors about us and insinuating false information and then insulting and attacking us, calling us ringers and cheaters. Do you think that was fair? Why wasn't anyone coming to our defense then? Instead, some of our guys begin lashing back and "omg why are all you Imperfects such jerks!?"
And it doesn't matter where your statement came from, Forlorn, when it's wrong.
I'm not going to derail this thread into another bickering fest about our corp. I'll try to wake up in time to shoot some people tomorrow in the event. |
Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
248
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Posted - 2013.01.11 23:37:00 -
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DudE Just Die wrote:Baal Omniscient wrote:Didn't see the removed comment, but what ever it was it apparently wasn't good. Attacking Kain like that I cannot condone. He has been a fair and honest poster here in the forums despite how a handful of his corpmates may behave in these parts.
Congratulations, you have just made yourself a punching bag. What is your main's name? I wanna make sure that when I get bored I can aim my LAV at the right blue dot. OH! So scared... You see Im not attacking the man that wrote the OP. Just the stupidity of his corp for harassing and PO everyone off in Dust and then asking for their help as if they have been kind and understanding and supportive to all of you. Your an Imp pet and they would NEVER defend you. Tell me Zitro on a scale of 1-10 how much better is Imp over Lotis? In order now, don't want to overwhelm you:
A. I never got to see the OP, as I stated. From the way people were responding, it appeared that Kain was attacked. Kain is decent people for the most part regardless of the company he keeps. Thus my response.
B. I see nothing in this OP that was harassing in any way to anyone anywhere. So just because IMPs hurt your little feelings in some other thread doesn't mean that you need to go trolling in a completely legit post about helping the community.
C. IMP pet? Obviously you don't know me. I am Overlord Ulath and Overlord Zero but this is now my main. How about you do a search and see just how often I troll the living f*ck out of them. I give them props from time to time when they deserve it, but I couldn't give a flying d*ckfeather less if they wanted to defend me. Zitro can put on some pretty pink lip gloss and kiss my ass for all I care. Once he's done with his pancakes of course. (I hope you get that reference to another thread Zitro baby ) |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
914
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Posted - 2013.01.11 23:41:00 -
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Tiel Syysch wrote:Polish Hammer wrote:Tiel Syysch wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:The irony is that they now think it a good idea to do this, and are attempting to test the game 2 weeks before release when they have had several months to do so leading up to now. I hope you realize that we have people that regularly do more testing than most others registered for the beta. You just don't see, remember or care about the threads because everyone's biased against our opinions, ideas and feedback, no matter how legitimate they are. To be fair here, your guys' PR ability (if you can call it that) hasn't been the greatest. I'm not knocking that some of you guys have done your fair share of bringing to light kinks in this game throughout testing, but when a good portion of your members openly mock, destructively criticize, and in general bad mouth most of the community, it doesn't lend itself to a remembering or caring about what you guys say. With, of course, the exception of a few. Are you aware that the badmouthing began from people attacking us? And that this "good portion" of our members is about 10% or so? It began with us staying silent and people creating rumors about us and insinuating false information and then insulting and attacking us, calling us ringers and cheaters. Do you think that was fair? Why wasn't anyone coming to our defense then? Instead, some of our guys begin lashing back and "omg why are all you Imperfects such jerks!?" And it doesn't matter where your statement came from, Forlorn, when it's wrong. I'm not going to derail this thread into another bickering fest about our corp. I'll try to wake up in time to shoot some people tomorrow in the event.
Since you are willing to have an honest discussion, I'll be happy to discuss this with you. From my own perspective, I didn't notice your corp until the tournament, at which point your public persona was already cemented by your behavior on the forums, and not by the rumors.
If what you say is true (which, no offense, I can't say for certain since I wasn't aware of the supposed rumors at the time they were said nor not said), you were unknowns. Would it be fair to be attacked? No. Could you control it? No. Could you control your reaction to it? Most definately you could.
The mature response would have been to continue to post feedback in positive ways - report on your findings of the testing you now claim you did. Instead, your members lashed out, as you say. This is very immature, and why I avoid forums normally (I only participate in this one as good faith to the beta process). Of couse people are going to attack you, after you attacked them over something trivial like a rumor. Mature people don't typically behave in this way, they don't go on a rampage. As a result, your corp was treated as immature and people responded in kind - the rumors became attacks.
If you honestly want my advice on how to handle that: you talk to the person first. In private. You don't attack them in public.
Thanks for reading.
EDIT: and the source does matter when it's your leader and most public person saying it. This is how public perception and policies are formed. After that, you have to do a lot of work to recover. Good job trying, but until your corp has been at it for a while, all it looks like is lipstick on a pig. |
Jesse Jayne
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
206
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Posted - 2013.01.11 23:59:00 -
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Mr Zitro wrote:Lol you mad bro? We don't exploited me just dominate :) PS want lessons scrub? Get on your main LoL |
howard sanchez
Conspiratus Immortalis
448
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Posted - 2013.01.12 00:09:00 -
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Tiel Syysch wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:The irony is that they now think it a good idea to do this, and are attempting to test the game 2 weeks before release when they have had several months to do so leading up to now. I hope you realize that we have people that regularly do more testing than most others registered for the beta. You just don't see, remember or care about the threads because everyone's biased against our opinions, ideas and feedback, no matter how legitimate they are. Tiel, Kain and the few other Imperfects who often act in a reasonable manner on the forums,
I completely understand your loyalty to the team you've built but it's also the bed you've made.
The Imperfects greatest imperfection is the adolescent behavior that so many of their members express on these forums. If this corporation conducted itself in a manner that engendered it to the DUST community, everyone would view your small place in this sandbox differently.
But you condone and encourage that which sets you apart, regardless of your individual priorities and actions.
You couldn't care less what the community thinks? You feast on thier tears? Whatever...
Stand apart where and however you will but don't expect polite and reasonable feedback from the community you have chosen to alienate. |
Tiel Syysch
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
633
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Posted - 2013.01.12 00:23:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Of couse people are going to attack you, after you attacked them over something trivial like a rumor.
This is the kind of mentality that I don't like about this whole thing. It's all on us. It's all our fault for the way we act. We're the immature ones. Except somehow it's not immature for the initial attacks and accusations. There's nothing wrong the people who spread rumors, the people who call us cheaters (who still continue to do so), the people who attack us and disregard any legitimate idea or suggestion we have while it's acknowledged and discussed if someone different makes a duplicate thread on the exact same topic. It's just "oh another IMP QQ thread" and then turned into a bickering insult fest.
This is why some of our members do what they do. There's really no going back. You're not going to change your opinion because any move toward civility (see: this thread) turns into "first reply edited by GM for being disrespectful" and "I can only shake my head at the Imperfects attempts to improve an image..." How can people get on your good side if you're unwilling to let them? As far as some of our guys are concerned, **** it, you're not going to let us escape the "bad boy" image, so we might as well embrace it. |
Kira Lannister
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
711
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Posted - 2013.01.12 00:25:00 -
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Mr Zitro wrote:Lol you mad bro? We don't exploited me just dominate :) PS want lessons scrub? Get on your main
You skipped English class bro?
Want some lessons? Get a tutor.
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GallenteScout Killer
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2013.01.12 00:26:00 -
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Tiel Syysch wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:The irony is that they now think it a good idea to do this, and are attempting to test the game 2 weeks before release when they have had several months to do so leading up to now. I hope you realize that we have people that regularly do more testing than most others registered for the beta. You just don't see, remember or care about the threads because everyone's biased against our opinions, ideas and feedback, no matter how legitimate they are.
I'm so Glad that you realize your Corporation and its members are not respected or cared about what so ever. But look we know you wont change so dont QQ about it
just shut up and shoot |
GallenteScout Killer
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2013.01.12 00:29:00 -
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Kira Lannister wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:Lol you mad bro? We don't exploited me just dominate :) PS want lessons scrub? Get on your main You skipped English class bro? Want some lessons? Get a tutor.
LOL He prob skips out of class just as much as he skips on matches he's loosing in. |
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Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis
300
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Posted - 2013.01.12 00:35:00 -
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Tiel Syysch wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Of couse people are going to attack you, after you attacked them over something trivial like a rumor. This is the kind of mentality that I don't like about this whole thing. It's all on us. It's all our fault for the way we act. We're the immature ones. Except somehow it's not immature for the initial attacks and accusations. There's nothing wrong the people who spread rumors, the people who call us cheaters (who still continue to do so), the people who attack us and disregard any legitimate idea or suggestion we have while it's acknowledged and discussed if someone different makes a duplicate thread on the exact same topic. It's just "oh another IMP QQ thread" and then turned into a bickering insult fest. This is why some of our members do what they do. There's really no going back. You're not going to change your opinion because any move toward civility (see: this thread) turns into "first reply edited by GM for being disrespectful" and "I can only shake my head at the Imperfects attempts to improve an image..." How can people get on your good side if you're unwilling to let them? As far as some of our guys are concerned, **** it, you're not going to let us escape the "bad boy" image, so we might as well embrace it. I feel like this thread has turned into a "big elephant in the room" discussion about how you guys are viewed.
I'm now seeing where you're coming from Tiel and I respect that. I greatly respect the time you took to explain yourself (although i'm only assuming you feel like you shouldn't/don't have to explain yourself, not a bad thing). While I don't think that this will (I could be wrong though) make everyone drop their Duvolles (sp?) and start a big group hug, I think it'll open at least some peoples' eyes a little.
Anyway, what the hell were we talking about? Oh yeah, I want in on summa dis OB nonsense. |
Latina-Maffia
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
6
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Posted - 2013.01.12 00:40:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Tiel Syysch wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:The irony is that they now think it a good idea to do this, and are attempting to test the game 2 weeks before release when they have had several months to do so leading up to now. I hope you realize that we have people that regularly do more testing than most others registered for the beta. You just don't see, remember or care about the threads because everyone's biased against our opinions, ideas and feedback, no matter how legitimate they are. My comment is based on a conversation I had with Zitro that you weren't part of, thank you. EDIT: I'm not also not biased against your corp - there are a handful that I enjoy bantering with and talk to (Cyn for example). As for your testing, Cyn is the only one I've noticed say anything constructive on the forums, which I read every day when I'm at work waiting for the phone to ring.
Cyn is definitely constructive in the forums as is HowDidThatTaste.....he's not only constructive in his posts but polite and civil as well. It would be good for those IMPERFECTS to learn by their examples and follow their leads.
As I said in an earlier post in this thread....CIVILITY COSTS NOTHING! |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
914
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Posted - 2013.01.12 00:40:00 -
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Tiel Syysch wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Of couse people are going to attack you, after you attacked them over something trivial like a rumor. This is the kind of mentality that I don't like about this whole thing. It's all on us. It's all our fault for the way we act. We're the immature ones. Except somehow it's not immature for the initial attacks and accusations. There's nothing wrong the people who spread rumors, the people who call us cheaters (who still continue to do so), the people who attack us and disregard any legitimate idea or suggestion we have while it's acknowledged and discussed if someone different makes a duplicate thread on the exact same topic. It's just "oh another IMP QQ thread" and then turned into a bickering insult fest. This is why some of our members do what they do. There's really no going back. You're not going to change your opinion because any move toward civility (see: this thread) turns into "first reply edited by GM for being disrespectful" and "I can only shake my head at the Imperfects attempts to improve an image..." How can people get on your good side if you're unwilling to let them? As far as some of our guys are concerned, **** it, you're not going to let us escape the "bad boy" image, so we might as well embrace it.
I never said it was mature that people spout out rumors. As a matter of fact, I asked if it was fair and I said no it wasn't, and that you can't control it. What your team can do is act as most mature people do in the real world, as opposed to how people shrouded in anonymity on the internet does. Rumors may have started it, but I wasn't issuing the rumors. Why attack me as your players have? Did I attack back - no, I took the high road acted out of responsibility.
You asked a question, friend, and got an answer. If you don't like the answer, that is your opinion. You have the choice to either take what I said and think on it, or ignore it. I don't care which you do - as I said I was only answering your question.
You also say people said things about there being duplicate threads, and IMPS were QQing again. I'm sure you noticed you aren't the only corp that was treated that way - and yes that is immature too. However, your corp's reaction far exceeded any other reaction. Believing otherwise is a fantasy. Your corp's reaction added fuel to the fire. Is it all your corp's fault? No. But your members certainly added fuel to the fire, instead of behaving in a way more becoming a leader in the community as you once had the potential to be.
EDIT: if you want to leave the "bad boy image" behind, then my recommendation is to ask your leader to do just that. We asked him about being a leader in the community; his response was and is "f the community". If he decides to be a true leader in the community, then people will respect you again. I'm not going to argue how you got here - but there is a way to change the perception if you are willing to do it. And yes, it is on you to change their perception, if you want to have a positive image. Your image belongs to you - you foster it and it grows based on the food you feed it. And yes, until I see long term proof that that is what your corp wants, it only looks like window dressing. I would rather have Imperfects succeed and represent Dust with pride, but my respect is not given out freely. It has to be earned, and when you are disrespectful to me, I will not respect you (again, general you, not you specifically). Think on this, if you will. Set the emotions aside for a moment. Put this situation in a real world scenario - see how it plays out. You want a better image - here's your chance. Make good on it. Be positive. Be leaders. Otherwise, the public perception will continue to be what it is and this test this weekend is what I called it before: lipstick on a pig. I have no problem with your Tiel - I don't even know you. You seem a good person - maybe even a good leader. Take that step and see where it goes. You might be surprised. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2046
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Posted - 2013.01.12 00:44:00 -
[34] - Quote
Haha the only difference between IMPs and other corps is that we don't hide behind alts to keep our main looking classy, this is the internet don't be so scared |
Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis
300
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Posted - 2013.01.12 00:46:00 -
[35] - Quote
Sleepy Zan wrote:Haha the only difference between IMPs and other corps is that we don't hide behind alts to keep our main looking classy, this is the internet don't be so scared Says the guy with 29847894598723895 alts Granted they all have Zan in them.... |
Astral Zan
Doomheim
31
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Posted - 2013.01.12 00:47:00 -
[36] - Quote
Polish Hammer wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Haha the only difference between IMPs and other corps is that we don't hide behind alts to keep our main looking classy, this is the internet don't be so scared Says the guy with 29847894598723895 alts Granted they all have Zan in them.... But I don't hide |
DudE Just Die
Red Star.
17
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Posted - 2013.01.12 00:48:00 -
[37] - Quote
Sleepy Zan wrote:Haha the only difference between IMPs and other corps is that we don't hide behind alts to keep our main looking classy, this is the internet don't be so scared
LOL that Difference List is a whole lot longer then that.
Zan is one of us |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
914
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Posted - 2013.01.12 00:49:00 -
[38] - Quote
Sleepy Zan wrote:Haha the only difference between IMPs and other corps is that we don't hide behind alts to keep our main looking classy, this is the internet don't be so scared
Zan - you are one of the few I do respect. When you are "trolling" it is almost always in good humor and clearly a joke. I don't recall once seeing you post something deliberately hurtful to anyone. I remember fondly the matches you don't remember |
Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis
300
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Posted - 2013.01.12 00:51:00 -
[39] - Quote
Astral Zan wrote:Polish Hammer wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Haha the only difference between IMPs and other corps is that we don't hide behind alts to keep our main looking classy, this is the internet don't be so scared Says the guy with 29847894598723895 alts Granted they all have Zan in them.... But I don't hide You so sirry (silly*) Zan. |
Astral Zan
Doomheim
31
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Posted - 2013.01.12 00:51:00 -
[40] - Quote
DudE Just Die wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:Haha the only difference between IMPs and other corps is that we don't hide behind alts to keep our main looking classy, this is the internet don't be so scared LOL that Difference List is a whole lot longer then that. Zan is one of us Oh sorry I forgot IMPs are also #1 in the tournament and undefeated in corp battles thanks for reminding me, good your a cool guy like that. |
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Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
248
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Posted - 2013.01.12 00:53:00 -
[41] - Quote
Tiel Syysch wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Of couse people are going to attack you, after you attacked them over something trivial like a rumor. This is the kind of mentality that I don't like about this whole thing. It's all on us. It's all our fault for the way we act. We're the immature ones. Except somehow it's not immature for the initial attacks and accusations. There's nothing wrong the people who spread rumors, the people who call us cheaters (who still continue to do so), the people who attack us and disregard any legitimate idea or suggestion we have while it's acknowledged and discussed if someone different makes a duplicate thread on the exact same topic. It's just "oh another IMP QQ thread" and then turned into a bickering insult fest. This is why some of our members do what they do. There's really no going back. You're not going to change your opinion because any move toward civility (see: this thread) turns into "first reply edited by GM for being disrespectful" and "I can only shake my head at the Imperfects attempts to improve an image..." How can people get on your good side if you're unwilling to let them? As far as some of our guys are concerned, **** it, you're not going to let us escape the "bad boy" image, so we might as well embrace it. Tiel, I know not all of you are immature trolls. I've personally written whole threads concerning this because there are some decent people in your ranks that I thought deserved a bit of credit. Instead of getting support from any of your people however, the thread devolved into attacks on me from your people (which I nimbly sidestepped I might add), and anyone who happened to post on the thread was trolled by the same people I was attempting to shed some light on.
What I'm saying here is, Imps need some internal work if they ever want to loose the stigmata they currently have. It's not worth trying to help a corp that is constantly going out of it's way to damage it's reputation further and further every day.
Sleepy Zan wrote:Haha the only difference between IMPs and other corps is that we don't hide behind alts to keep our main looking classy, this is the internet don't be so scared I had alts for a reason, and just made this one. My previous alts were marked Overlord at the start of them and I was open about who I was.
And you're one of the one's I'd place in the category of mild mannered among the trolls you roll with. You're good people Zan, even if you do ocasionally roll over a few blue dots.
Polish Hammer wrote: Anyway, what the hell were we talking about?
I'm only posting here because I found a nice place where I could fit the word "d*ckfeather" into a sentence. |
xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1452
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Posted - 2013.01.12 00:56:00 -
[42] - Quote
I stopped testing and started trolling the moment CCP started listening to the scrubs and taking all the skill out of the game. |
Kira Lannister
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
711
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Posted - 2013.01.12 01:00:00 -
[43] - Quote
Skill: The ability to press R1. lolol |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
914
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Posted - 2013.01.12 01:00:00 -
[44] - Quote
xprotoman23 wrote:I stopped testing and started trolling the moment CCP started listening to the scrubs and taking all the skill out of the game.
At least its an honest answer lol |
Kira Lannister
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
711
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Posted - 2013.01.12 01:00:00 -
[45] - Quote
Yall are writing some essays up in hurrrrrr. It's cray. |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
914
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Posted - 2013.01.12 01:00:00 -
[46] - Quote
Kira Lannister wrote:Skill: The ability to press R1. lolol
Nobody saw, but I opened my Neocom on the plane to TQ [gasp!] |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2013.01.12 01:01:00 -
[47] - Quote
xprotoman23 wrote:I stopped testing and started trolling the moment CCP started listening to the scrubs and taking all the skill out of the game. I keep going back and forth in my self argument on that matter. I'm upset that any noob can throw a nade and slaughter me with weak gun game - but on the other hand I don't want this game to be low popped. Then again - I hate the children that come from catering to casuals. then again - I hate not getting full games.
Back n forth - back n forth. Pros and cons to everything. I want this to be skilled based too so that the best are the best - but I don't want a cult hit and games like that tend to be only that.
Ahh - someone shoot me - again. Q.Q |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
914
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Posted - 2013.01.12 01:01:00 -
[48] - Quote
SoTa PoP wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:I stopped testing and started trolling the moment CCP started listening to the scrubs and taking all the skill out of the game. I keep going back and forth in my self argument on that matter. I'm upset that any noob can throw a nade and slaughter me with weak gun game - but on the other hand I don't want this game to be low popped. Then again - I hate the children that come from catering to casuals. then again - I hate not getting full games. Back n forth - back n forth. Pros and cons to everything. I want this to be skilled based too so that the best are the best - but I don't want a cult hit and games like that tend to be only that. Ahh - someone shoot me - again. Q.Q
BANG!!! |
xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1452
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Posted - 2013.01.12 01:10:00 -
[49] - Quote
Forlorn Destrier wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:I stopped testing and started trolling the moment CCP started listening to the scrubs and taking all the skill out of the game. At least its an honest answer lol
but then I went to jail, and had to become a reformed forum poster. |
Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis
300
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Posted - 2013.01.12 01:13:00 -
[50] - Quote
xprotoman23 wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:I stopped testing and started trolling the moment CCP started listening to the scrubs and taking all the skill out of the game. At least its an honest answer lol but then I went to jail, and had to become a reformed forum poster. Did you find Jesus too?
I heard he's great at Hide N' Seek. |
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Frodaris Sortana 2100058545
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
43
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Posted - 2013.01.12 05:23:00 -
[51] - Quote
Well this thread got derailed by bullkitten forum drama real quick, didn't it?
For the record, I have never once trolled or insulted any member of the Imperfects, or any other player for that matter.
Oh, and the OB event on Saturday sounds like good fun, I'll join in if I can. :D |
Imp Smash
On The Brink
51
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Posted - 2013.01.12 05:34:00 -
[52] - Quote
Regardless of ANYTHING this looks like a good test that will benefit Dust. I will strive to be there myself. |
slap26
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
462
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Posted - 2013.01.12 06:08:00 -
[53] - Quote
PFBHz will be there and to add my personal opinion most of the imperfects are good people that happen to troll the forum now and then.
At least they can back up the smack they talk |
Kain Spero
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
893
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Posted - 2013.01.12 18:06:00 -
[54] - Quote
SYSTEM is IKOSKIO |
Ludwig Van Beatdropin
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
195
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Posted - 2013.01.14 14:30:00 -
[55] - Quote
slap26 wrote:PFBHz will be there and to add my personal opinion most of the imperfects are good people that happen to troll the forum now and then.
At least they can back up the smack they talk
I have a quad personality, I have fights with myself all the time. |
METR0 THE DESTR0YER
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
76
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Posted - 2013.01.14 14:33:00 -
[56] - Quote
Ludwig Van Beatdropin wrote:slap26 wrote:PFBHz will be there and to add my personal opinion most of the imperfects are good people that happen to troll the forum now and then.
At least they can back up the smack they talk I have a quad personality, I have fights with myself all the time.
He's not lying either, I have seen It, He beats himself up regularly. |
HeadShotN AnD StrafeN
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
46
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Posted - 2013.01.14 14:35:00 -
[57] - Quote
METR0 THE DESTR0YER wrote:Ludwig Van Beatdropin wrote:slap26 wrote:PFBHz will be there and to add my personal opinion most of the imperfects are good people that happen to troll the forum now and then.
At least they can back up the smack they talk I have a quad personality, I have fights with myself all the time. He's not lying either, I have seen It, He beats himself up regularly.
True story, I was there. |
XxMETROxX
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.01.14 14:35:00 -
[58] - Quote
HeadShotN AnD StrafeN wrote:METR0 THE DESTR0YER wrote:Ludwig Van Beatdropin wrote:slap26 wrote:PFBHz will be there and to add my personal opinion most of the imperfects are good people that happen to troll the forum now and then.
At least they can back up the smack they talk I have a quad personality, I have fights with myself all the time. He's not lying either, I have seen It, He beats himself up regularly. True story, I was there.
Me too. |
Yay Adski
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
133
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Posted - 2013.01.14 14:49:00 -
[59] - Quote
This is about to get interesting |
Kain Spero
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
893
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Posted - 2013.01.14 15:48:00 -
[60] - Quote
Wow, I actually got a chance to read through this thread. Good times.
Back to the topic:
The "Dust OB" guys are planning on having another event this weekend since we had gotten several request from EVE corps that weren't able to get themselves prepped for FW in time. I'm hoping these will actually get bigger. This will also be one of the last Orbital Events happening before the open beta starts, so now is the time to get used to coordinating with EVE pilots before the rush of new folks. I'll be discussing this weeks prizes with the folks running the event and see if we can't up the ante. |
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kellyn whiteheart
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
54
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Posted - 2013.01.14 16:30:00 -
[61] - Quote
Forlorn Destrier wrote:On behalf of ZionTCD, I would like to say that we support the testing of the Dust and Eve and how they work together.
At the same time, I would also like to let everyone know that when they were asked about helping the community in the past thorugh more actual testing of this sort, Zitro said that Imperfects had no intention of improving the community through testing of the Beta whatsoever. The irony is that they now think it a good idea to do this, and are attempting to test the game 2 weeks before release when they have had several months to do so leading up to now.
As a result, while members of ZionTCD are welcome to participate in what looks to be a fun and possibly worthwhile test, I can only shake my head at the Imperfects attempts to improve an image built on hate, derision, and blatant disregard for the community as a whole to this point.
i support this post +1
and i do it cuz hes right not because im in ZION as well |
Kain Spero
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
893
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Posted - 2013.01.14 23:39:00 -
[62] - Quote
kellyn whiteheart wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:On behalf of ZionTCD, I would like to say that we support the testing of the Dust and Eve and how they work together.
At the same time, I would also like to let everyone know that when they were asked about helping the community in the past thorugh more actual testing of this sort, Zitro said that Imperfects had no intention of improving the community through testing of the Beta whatsoever. The irony is that they now think it a good idea to do this, and are attempting to test the game 2 weeks before release when they have had several months to do so leading up to now.
As a result, while members of ZionTCD are welcome to participate in what looks to be a fun and possibly worthwhile test, I can only shake my head at the Imperfects attempts to improve an image built on hate, derision, and blatant disregard for the community as a whole to this point. i support this post +1 and i do it cuz hes right not because im in ZION as well
Please see the following:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=443493#post443493
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=48973
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=48756
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=456827#post456827
And many more.
I hate going off topic here but between me, Mobius Wyvern, Eve Daniel, Jaiden Longshot, and many others we have been testing the Orbital Interaction as soon as we could get our hands on it as thoroughly as possible. The goal of all this is to find as many of the bugs as quickly as possible and hopefully have fun doing it at the same time. WIth these events maybe we can build some more interest in this game so it can be even more successful. Is this testing selfless? **** no. I don't want something I've invested hundreds of hours and a lot of money to collapse at the gate or down the road because I didn't seize an opportunity to turn some features inside and out and test the **** out of them to find that one illusive game crippling bug.
All that said I appreciate that ZION participated in the event and I look forward to their future participation in community events like these.
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