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Tiel Syysch wrote:

Polish Hammer wrote:

Tiel Syysch wrote:

Forlorn Destrier wrote:

The irony is that they now think it a good idea to do this, and are attempting to test the game 2 weeks before release when they have had several months to do so leading up to now.

I hope you realize that we have people that regularly do more testing than most others registered for the beta. You just don't see, remember or care about the threads because everyone's biased against our opinions, ideas and feedback, no matter how legitimate they are.

To be fair here, your guys' PR ability (if you can call it that) hasn't been the greatest. I'm not knocking that some of you guys have done your fair share of bringing to light kinks in this game throughout testing, but when a good portion of your members openly mock, destructively criticize, and in general bad mouth most of the community, it doesn't lend itself to a remembering or caring about what you guys say. With, of course, the exception of a few.

Are you aware that the badmouthing began from people attacking us? And that this "good portion" of our members is about 10% or so? It began with us staying silent and people creating rumors about us and insinuating false information and then insulting and attacking us, calling us ringers and cheaters. Do you think that was fair? Why wasn't anyone coming to our defense then? Instead, some of our guys begin lashing back and "omg why are all you Imperfects such jerks!?"

And it doesn't matter where your statement came from, Forlorn, when it's wrong.

I'm not going to derail this thread into another bickering fest about our corp. I'll try to wake up in time to shoot some people tomorrow in the event.

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Kain Spero Imperfects Negative-Feedback 893	Posted - 2013.01.11 14:16:00 - [1] - Quote "Dust OB" will be the official channel for Saturday's EVE/Dust event. I could use some more moderator's EvE side in the EU and AU timezones. If you are interested please contact Kane Spero through evemail. It would be a great help for the folks EvE side if we could get some EU and AU Dust corporation directors announcing potential and confirmed corp matches (System - Planet - District - Time) in channel. Let's get as much interest in Dust EVE side as we can! https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=461039#post461039
ShutUr Mouth Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 16	Posted - 2013.01.11 21:29:00 - [2] - Quote This comment has been edited by a moderator because it is in breach of the rules of conduct of this community.
Mr Zitro Imperfects Negative-Feedback 417	Posted - 2013.01.11 21:31:00 - [3] - Quote Lol you mad bro? We don't exploited me just dominate :) PS want lessons scrub? Get on your main

GM Hercules Game Masters C C P Alliance 335	Posted - 2013.01.11 21:31:00 - [4] - Quote Please be respectful with your comments. I've edited the above comment.

AndThe RestWill Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 20	Posted - 2013.01.11 21:34:00 - [5] - Quote Is this Better ? Im not MAD I just love how I find this post 3 pages back with NO Reply because you guys TROLL and PI** ON everyOne.
AndThe RestWill Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 20	Posted - 2013.01.11 21:35:00 - [6] - Quote GM Hercules wrote: Please be respectful with your comments. I've edited the above comment. I will for you Not for them. Your just like US IMP Dont ask the community to care when you dont care about the Community
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 248	Posted - 2013.01.11 21:37:00 - [7] - Quote Didn't see the removed comment, but what ever it was it apparently wasn't good. Attacking Kain like that I cannot condone. He has been a fair and honest poster here in the forums despite how a handful of his corpmates may behave in these parts. Congratulations, you have just made yourself a punching bag. What is your main's name? I wanna make sure that when I get bored I can aim my LAV at the right blue dot.

GM Hercules Game Masters C C P Alliance 335	Posted - 2013.01.11 21:38:00 - [8] - Quote Thank you.

Green Living Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 52	Posted - 2013.01.11 21:40:00 - [9] - Quote Is the OB Channel open for all? Will the squads be formed from there?
Mr Zitro Imperfects Negative-Feedback 417	Posted - 2013.01.11 21:41:00 - [10] - Quote AndThe RestWill wrote: GM Hercules wrote: Please be respectful with your comments. I've edited the above comment. I will for you Not for them. Your just like US IMP Dont ask the community to care when you dont care about the Community Lol I won't do it for then but I will for you, so basically you will listen either way XD get on your main and stop hiding behind an alt women. Then I might actually talk to you

Forlorn Destrier ZionTCD Legacy Rising 914	Posted - 2013.01.11 21:57:00 - [11] - Quote On behalf of ZionTCD, I would like to say that we support the testing of the Dust and Eve and how they work together. At the same time, I would also like to let everyone know that when they were asked about helping the community in the past thorugh more actual testing of this sort, Zitro said that Imperfects had no intention of improving the community through testing of the Beta whatsoever. The irony is that they now think it a good idea to do this, and are attempting to test the game 2 weeks before release when they have had several months to do so leading up to now. As a result, while members of ZionTCD are welcome to participate in what looks to be a fun and possibly worthwhile test, I can only shake my head at the Imperfects attempts to improve an image built on hate, derision, and blatant disregard for the community as a whole to this point.
DudE Just Die Red Star. 17	Posted - 2013.01.11 22:01:00 - [12] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: AndThe RestWill wrote: GM Hercules wrote: Please be respectful with your comments. I've edited the above comment. I will for you Not for them. Your just like US IMP Dont ask the community to care when you dont care about the Community Lol I won't do it for then but I will for you, so basically you will listen either way XD get on your main and stop hiding behind an alt women. Then I might actually talk to you LOL Wow playing video game instead of doing homework has messed up your spelling bro "I won't do it for then...?" You going to quote someone do it right. Write down my name if you want my PSN that bad Sherlock. This whole post is one HUGE Fail!
DudE Just Die Red Star. 17	Posted - 2013.01.11 22:09:00 - [13] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: Didn't see the removed comment, but what ever it was it apparently wasn't good. Attacking Kain like that I cannot condone. He has been a fair and honest poster here in the forums despite how a handful of his corpmates may behave in these parts. Congratulations, you have just made yourself a punching bag. What is your main's name? I wanna make sure that when I get bored I can aim my LAV at the right blue dot. OH! So scared... You see Im not attacking the man that wrote the OP. Just the stupidity of his corp for harassing and PO everyone off in Dust and then asking for their help as if they have been kind and understanding and supportive to all of you. Your an Imp pet and they would NEVER defend you. Tell me Zitro on a scale of 1-10 how much better is Imp over Lotis?
GallenteScout Killer Algintal Core Gallente Federation 15	Posted - 2013.01.11 22:12:00 - [14] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: On behalf of ZionTCD, I would like to say that we support the testing of the Dust and Eve and how they work together. At the same time, I would also like to let everyone know that when they were asked about helping the community in the past thorugh more actual testing of this sort, Zitro said that Imperfects had no intention of improving the community through testing of the Beta whatsoever. The irony is that they now think it a good idea to do this, and are attempting to test the game 2 weeks before release when they have had several months to do so leading up to now. As a result, while members of ZionTCD are welcome to participate in what looks to be a fun and possibly worthwhile test, I can only shake my head at the Imperfects attempts to improve an image built on hate, derision, and blatant disregard for the community as a whole to this point. Wow Zion is sucking up to Imperfect's as well?
Forlorn Destrier ZionTCD Legacy Rising 914	Posted - 2013.01.11 22:29:00 - [15] - Quote GallenteScout Killer wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: On behalf of ZionTCD, I would like to say that we support the testing of the Dust and Eve and how they work together. At the same time, I would also like to let everyone know that when they were asked about helping the community in the past thorugh more actual testing of this sort, Zitro said that Imperfects had no intention of improving the community through testing of the Beta whatsoever. The irony is that they now think it a good idea to do this, and are attempting to test the game 2 weeks before release when they have had several months to do so leading up to now. As a result, while members of ZionTCD are welcome to participate in what looks to be a fun and possibly worthwhile test, I can only shake my head at the Imperfects attempts to improve an image built on hate, derision, and blatant disregard for the community as a whole to this point. Wow Zion is sucking up to Imperfect's as well? Sarcasm? This is support for the community wide test, not for the organizers. EDIT: Most of the Imperfects are welcome to die in a fire, as far as I'm concerned, and I would happily help them on their way (in game). Hope that clears up my position on this matter.
Latina-Maffia 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 6	Posted - 2013.01.11 22:30:00 - [16] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: AndThe RestWill wrote: GM Hercules wrote: Please be respectful with your comments. I've edited the above comment. I will for you Not for them. Your just like US IMP Dont ask the community to care when you dont care about the Community Lol I won't do it for then but I will for you, so basically you will listen either way XD get on your main and stop hiding behind an alt women. Then I might actually talk to you Zitro: I've said it before and I'll say it again.....WOW....once again mindless babble with nothing of great importance to say. Some people should learn to either say something nice and constructive or not say anything at all. In fact, it would do you some good to learn from your corp member HowDidThatTaste and take the civil way about things in giving advice. "CIVILITY COSTS NOTHING" - people alone, not to mention this world would be better off with that in mind. For you to quote something....please do it correctly, or you place yourself in the position of looking like an ass. Secondly for you to degrade a person by her gender is truly pathetic and for you to think that one would even care that someone would...as you put it "might actually talk to you" is beyond sad...but then again, whatever floats your boat. Don't think for one second that you are any better than anyone around. You disgrace your corps name as do many of your corp members. I've found far and few of your members to be worthy of respect.....where you sir are lacking! With that said, be careful of what you say cuz karma's a ***** and when you try to prove yourself to be worthy or almighty, it just points in the direction of lacking elsewhere as well....I leave that to what conclusion you think fits best, but I'm sure it won't be the conclusion of many who already read your words of sad gibberish. EDITED: To make sure I wasn't misunderstood in who this post was for.
Kain Spero Imperfects Negative-Feedback 893	Posted - 2013.01.11 22:35:00 - [17] - Quote Green Living wrote: Is the OB Channel open for all? Will the squads be formed from there? The channel, "Dust OB", will be open to everyone. It's going to be for primarily communicating to the EVE guys the locations for the Orbital support and when OBs are ready.
Groza Tragediya Opus Arcana Orion Empire 72	Posted - 2013.01.11 22:35:00 - [18] - Quote She is awesome. +1
Tiel Syysch Imperfects Negative-Feedback 633	Posted - 2013.01.11 23:20:00 - [19] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: The irony is that they now think it a good idea to do this, and are attempting to test the game 2 weeks before release when they have had several months to do so leading up to now. I hope you realize that we have people that regularly do more testing than most others registered for the beta. You just don't see, remember or care about the threads because everyone's biased against our opinions, ideas and feedback, no matter how legitimate they are.
Forlorn Destrier ZionTCD Legacy Rising 914	Posted - 2013.01.11 23:24:00 - [20] - Quote Tiel Syysch wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: The irony is that they now think it a good idea to do this, and are attempting to test the game 2 weeks before release when they have had several months to do so leading up to now. I hope you realize that we have people that regularly do more testing than most others registered for the beta. You just don't see, remember or care about the threads because everyone's biased against our opinions, ideas and feedback, no matter how legitimate they are. My comment is based on a conversation I had with Zitro that you weren't part of, thank you. EDIT: I'm not also not biased against your corp - there are a handful that I enjoy bantering with and talk to (Cyn for example). As for your testing, Cyn is the only one I've noticed say anything constructive on the forums, which I read every day when I'm at work waiting for the phone to ring.

Polish Hammer Conspiratus Immortalis 300	Posted - 2013.01.11 23:26:00 - [21] - Quote Tiel Syysch wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: The irony is that they now think it a good idea to do this, and are attempting to test the game 2 weeks before release when they have had several months to do so leading up to now. I hope you realize that we have people that regularly do more testing than most others registered for the beta. You just don't see, remember or care about the threads because everyone's biased against our opinions, ideas and feedback, no matter how legitimate they are. To be fair here, your guys' PR ability (if you can call it that) hasn't been the greatest. I'm not knocking that some of you guys have done your fair share of bringing to light kinks in this game throughout testing, but when a good portion of your members openly mock, destructively criticize, and in general bad mouth most of the community, it doesn't lend itself to a remembering or caring about what you guys say. With, of course, the exception of a few.
Tiel Syysch Imperfects Negative-Feedback 633	Posted - 2013.01.11 23:35:00 - [22] - Quote Polish Hammer wrote: Tiel Syysch wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: The irony is that they now think it a good idea to do this, and are attempting to test the game 2 weeks before release when they have had several months to do so leading up to now. I hope you realize that we have people that regularly do more testing than most others registered for the beta. You just don't see, remember or care about the threads because everyone's biased against our opinions, ideas and feedback, no matter how legitimate they are. To be fair here, your guys' PR ability (if you can call it that) hasn't been the greatest. I'm not knocking that some of you guys have done your fair share of bringing to light kinks in this game throughout testing, but when a good portion of your members openly mock, destructively criticize, and in general bad mouth most of the community, it doesn't lend itself to a remembering or caring about what you guys say. With, of course, the exception of a few. Are you aware that the badmouthing began from people attacking us? And that this "good portion" of our members is about 10% or so? It began with us staying silent and people creating rumors about us and insinuating false information and then insulting and attacking us, calling us ringers and cheaters. Do you think that was fair? Why wasn't anyone coming to our defense then? Instead, some of our guys begin lashing back and "omg why are all you Imperfects such jerks!?" And it doesn't matter where your statement came from, Forlorn, when it's wrong. I'm not going to derail this thread into another bickering fest about our corp. I'll try to wake up in time to shoot some people tomorrow in the event.
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 248	Posted - 2013.01.11 23:37:00 - [23] - Quote DudE Just Die wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: Didn't see the removed comment, but what ever it was it apparently wasn't good. Attacking Kain like that I cannot condone. He has been a fair and honest poster here in the forums despite how a handful of his corpmates may behave in these parts. Congratulations, you have just made yourself a punching bag. What is your main's name? I wanna make sure that when I get bored I can aim my LAV at the right blue dot. OH! So scared... You see Im not attacking the man that wrote the OP. Just the stupidity of his corp for harassing and PO everyone off in Dust and then asking for their help as if they have been kind and understanding and supportive to all of you. Your an Imp pet and they would NEVER defend you. Tell me Zitro on a scale of 1-10 how much better is Imp over Lotis? In order now, don't want to overwhelm you: A. I never got to see the OP, as I stated. From the way people were responding, it appeared that Kain was attacked. Kain is decent people for the most part regardless of the company he keeps. Thus my response. B. I see nothing in this OP that was harassing in any way to anyone anywhere. So just because IMPs hurt your little feelings in some other thread doesn't mean that you need to go trolling in a completely legit post about helping the community. C. IMP pet? Obviously you don't know me. I am Overlord Ulath and Overlord Zero but this is now my main. How about you do a search and see just how often I troll the living fck out of them. I give them props from time to time when they deserve it, but I couldn't give a flying dckfeather less if they wanted to defend me. Zitro can put on some pretty pink lip gloss and kiss my ass for all I care. Once he's done with his pancakes of course. (I hope you get that reference to another thread Zitro baby )
Forlorn Destrier ZionTCD Legacy Rising 914	Posted - 2013.01.11 23:41:00 - [24] - Quote Tiel Syysch wrote: Polish Hammer wrote: Tiel Syysch wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: The irony is that they now think it a good idea to do this, and are attempting to test the game 2 weeks before release when they have had several months to do so leading up to now. I hope you realize that we have people that regularly do more testing than most others registered for the beta. You just don't see, remember or care about the threads because everyone's biased against our opinions, ideas and feedback, no matter how legitimate they are. To be fair here, your guys' PR ability (if you can call it that) hasn't been the greatest. I'm not knocking that some of you guys have done your fair share of bringing to light kinks in this game throughout testing, but when a good portion of your members openly mock, destructively criticize, and in general bad mouth most of the community, it doesn't lend itself to a remembering or caring about what you guys say. With, of course, the exception of a few. Are you aware that the badmouthing began from people attacking us? And that this "good portion" of our members is about 10% or so? It began with us staying silent and people creating rumors about us and insinuating false information and then insulting and attacking us, calling us ringers and cheaters. Do you think that was fair? Why wasn't anyone coming to our defense then? Instead, some of our guys begin lashing back and "omg why are all you Imperfects such jerks!?" And it doesn't matter where your statement came from, Forlorn, when it's wrong. I'm not going to derail this thread into another bickering fest about our corp. I'll try to wake up in time to shoot some people tomorrow in the event. Since you are willing to have an honest discussion, I'll be happy to discuss this with you. From my own perspective, I didn't notice your corp until the tournament, at which point your public persona was already cemented by your behavior on the forums, and not by the rumors. If what you say is true (which, no offense, I can't say for certain since I wasn't aware of the supposed rumors at the time they were said nor not said), you were unknowns. Would it be fair to be attacked? No. Could you control it? No. Could you control your reaction to it? Most definately you could. The mature response would have been to continue to post feedback in positive ways - report on your findings of the testing you now claim you did. Instead, your members lashed out, as you say. This is very immature, and why I avoid forums normally (I only participate in this one as good faith to the beta process). Of couse people are going to attack you, after you attacked them over something trivial like a rumor. Mature people don't typically behave in this way, they don't go on a rampage. As a result, your corp was treated as immature and people responded in kind - the rumors became attacks. If you honestly want my advice on how to handle that: you talk to the person first. In private. You don't attack them in public. Thanks for reading. EDIT: and the source does matter when it's your leader and most public person saying it. This is how public perception and policies are formed. After that, you have to do a lot of work to recover. Good job trying, but until your corp has been at it for a while, all it looks like is lipstick on a pig.
Jesse Jayne ZionTCD Legacy Rising 206	Posted - 2013.01.11 23:59:00 - [25] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Lol you mad bro? We don't exploited me just dominate :) PS want lessons scrub? Get on your main LoL
howard sanchez Conspiratus Immortalis 448	Posted - 2013.01.12 00:09:00 - [26] - Quote Tiel Syysch wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: The irony is that they now think it a good idea to do this, and are attempting to test the game 2 weeks before release when they have had several months to do so leading up to now. I hope you realize that we have people that regularly do more testing than most others registered for the beta. You just don't see, remember or care about the threads because everyone's biased against our opinions, ideas and feedback, no matter how legitimate they are. Tiel, Kain and the few other Imperfects who often act in a reasonable manner on the forums, I completely understand your loyalty to the team you've built but it's also the bed you've made. The Imperfects greatest imperfection is the adolescent behavior that so many of their members express on these forums. If this corporation conducted itself in a manner that engendered it to the DUST community, everyone would view your small place in this sandbox differently. But you condone and encourage that which sets you apart, regardless of your individual priorities and actions. You couldn't care less what the community thinks? You feast on thier tears? Whatever... Stand apart where and however you will but don't expect polite and reasonable feedback from the community you have chosen to alienate.
Tiel Syysch Imperfects Negative-Feedback 633	Posted - 2013.01.12 00:23:00 - [27] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: Of couse people are going to attack you, after you attacked them over something trivial like a rumor. This is the kind of mentality that I don't like about this whole thing. It's all on us. It's all our fault for the way we act. We're the immature ones. Except somehow it's not immature for the initial attacks and accusations. There's nothing wrong the people who spread rumors, the people who call us cheaters (who still continue to do so), the people who attack us and disregard any legitimate idea or suggestion we have while it's acknowledged and discussed if someone different makes a duplicate thread on the exact same topic. It's just "oh another IMP QQ thread" and then turned into a bickering insult fest. This is why some of our members do what they do. There's really no going back. You're not going to change your opinion because any move toward civility (see: this thread) turns into "first reply edited by GM for being disrespectful" and "I can only shake my head at the Imperfects attempts to improve an image..." How can people get on your good side if you're unwilling to let them? As far as some of our guys are concerned, **** it, you're not going to let us escape the "bad boy" image, so we might as well embrace it.
Kira Lannister Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 711	Posted - 2013.01.12 00:25:00 - [28] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Lol you mad bro? We don't exploited me just dominate :) PS want lessons scrub? Get on your main You skipped English class bro? Want some lessons? Get a tutor.
GallenteScout Killer Algintal Core Gallente Federation 15	Posted - 2013.01.12 00:26:00 - [29] - Quote Tiel Syysch wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: The irony is that they now think it a good idea to do this, and are attempting to test the game 2 weeks before release when they have had several months to do so leading up to now. I hope you realize that we have people that regularly do more testing than most others registered for the beta. You just don't see, remember or care about the threads because everyone's biased against our opinions, ideas and feedback, no matter how legitimate they are. I'm so Glad that you realize your Corporation and its members are not respected or cared about what so ever. But look we know you wont change so dont QQ about it just shut up and shoot
GallenteScout Killer Algintal Core Gallente Federation 15	Posted - 2013.01.12 00:29:00 - [30] - Quote Kira Lannister wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Lol you mad bro? We don't exploited me just dominate :) PS want lessons scrub? Get on your main You skipped English class bro? Want some lessons? Get a tutor. LOL He prob skips out of class just as much as he skips on matches he's loosing in.



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