DUST Search - 30 Day Active Boosters are Officially Worthless now.

All Channels

General Discussions

30 Day Active Boosters are Officially Worthless now.

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: 1 [2] 3 :: one page

Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Skihids Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 968	Posted - 2013.01.11 04:56:00 - [31] - Quote Beyobi wrote: Why are people that can afford to play more than 2 hours a day being held back by terrible players that are only on 1 hour on a sunday? Wake up! The cap is NOT there to keep players even. The cap is there to slowly meter out SP so you don't max out faster than CCP wants you too. It wouldn't matter if everyone played 20 hours and went 54/0 every match. The cap would still throttle your gains.
Beyobi Soldiers Of One Network Orion Empire 44	Posted - 2013.01.11 05:18:00 - [32] - Quote Skihids wrote: Wake up! Who are you? John Titor? Let me remind you what CCP advertised: What does the Active Skill Booster do? In DUST 514, mercenaries gain skill points that they can apply to skills to increase bonuses and unlock access to higher tiers of gear. The 30-day Active Skill Booster increases the rate at which you gain points, allowing you to train skills and increase your options at an accelerated rate for a limited period of time. "increases the rate at which you gain points" When did the word "Rate" become synonymous with "Cap"
zakk kingsman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1	Posted - 2013.01.11 05:27:00 - [33] - Quote I would rather see a weekly cap than a daily cap so you don't have to play every single day to hit your cap. Don't make Dust into mists of pandaria daily mania.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1591	Posted - 2013.01.11 05:28:00 - [34] - Quote 1. You all asked for this. You all asked for the daily cap because you got sick and tired of hitting the weekly cap in 2-3 days while having to wait 4-5 days to get any serious SP gain. 2. You all asked for SP caps in general. Something to keep the no-lifers from skilling up to Prototype suits in one frakking week like how you see no-lifers hitting their tenth prestige in Call of Duty. None of us wanted to see that in Dust. None of us. Not even you, Beyobi. Regardless of what you just said, deep down inside your soul you hated those no-lifers because they were able to hit 168 hours in one week and unlock everything in the game while you had to struggle a whole month to finally get the good guns. 3. Quit complaining about SP gains. Once you get into Corporation Battles you will NOT earn any SP there and we all know Corp Battles are where the real ISK are gained. Which brings me to my next point. 4. ISK (Interstellar Kredit) is the true currency in New Eden. Not the skill points. Skill points only get you better gear and that is it. ISK on the other hand will not only get you better gear, it will also allow you better influence on the market, bribing CEOs and directors into doing what you want them to do, supporting a district you own, supplying your team with an MCC and a barge, paying a spy to wreck a corp from within and rob them of their hard-earned ISK, etc. That is why ISK is the true item of value here. You are mercenaries. Guns for hire. Soldiers of Fortune. Act like one. 5. CCP wanted us to gain SP at the exact same maximum rate as Eve capsuleers.
Beyobi Soldiers Of One Network Orion Empire 44	Posted - 2013.01.11 05:57:00 - [35] - Quote Don't put me on the boat with any of those clowns that asked for any kind of cap. Not to mention you are off topic. This thread has no concerns with iSk earned or lost. This is strictly about balanced SP gain from match to match and figuring out how to fix the 30 day active booster, or how to get it refunded.
Sobriety Denied Universal Allies Inc. 432	Posted - 2013.01.11 06:04:00 - [36] - Quote Beyobi wrote: Why are people that can afford to play more than 2 hours a day being held back by terrible players that are only on 1 hour on a sunday? it's those fkn vocal casuals man they successfully railroad every game released, them and their stupid so called real lives need to gtfo of gaming already and go back to farmville
I-Shayz-I ZionTCD Legacy Rising 172	Posted - 2013.01.11 06:23:00 - [37] - Quote I'm still saving mine in case they ever change it back to weekly.
Enji Elric Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears 176	Posted - 2013.01.11 06:27:00 - [38] - Quote Sobriety Denied wrote: Beyobi wrote: Why are people that can afford to play more than 2 hours a day being held back by terrible players that are only on 1 hour on a sunday? it's those fkn vocal casuals man they successfully railroad every game released, them and their stupid so called real lives need to gtfo of gaming already and go back to farmville well the way the system works now. the casuals don't play for a week/month then they completely miss out on that week/month. this will weed out the casuals or at least keep them in as cannon fodder for the rest of us.... I was actually a little upset about the cap but the passive sp gains are actually not that bad 24k a day play or not I will be gone from home/stable internet connection for at least one year ... if i am gone for exactly 365 days I will return with 8,760,000 or 13, 140,000 SP to skill my character with. what am i missing without playing 27,000 to 40,800....... 9,855,000 or 14,892,000 this means over half of your gains are active . be happy with that. be happy CCP didnt just give you passive SP
Beyobi Soldiers Of One Network Orion Empire 44	Posted - 2013.01.11 06:47:00 - [39] - Quote Passive SP was a nice treat, but It really isn't necessary. I know they're trying hard to keep it EvE-like, but if passive SP is one of the reasons Active SP is so terrible, then Passive SP needs to go. Why should passive players be able to keep up with active players? What about other characters that aren't earning the Passive SP? Where is the balance there? For that matter, why should someones character that has 10% play time be riding the coattails of a character that has 90% play time? just a random number: to get 250k SP it would take you 5000 matches @50SP per match and 3333 matches@75SP per match
Daalzebul Del'Armgo D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire 48	Posted - 2013.01.11 06:56:00 - [40] - Quote meh remove Active and just go passive =p.

DUST Fiend Immobile Infantry 1899	Posted - 2013.01.11 07:00:00 - [41] - Quote Beyobi wrote: "increases the rate at which you gain points" When did the word "Rate" become synonymous with "Cap" I'm not sure how it works on your end, but when I get 50% extra SP per match, I find that the rate I gain SP is increased by 50%....
Moonracer2000 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 311	Posted - 2013.01.11 07:03:00 - [42] - Quote In response to OP. Did you not already know that the SP system is bad now? I purposefully did not activate my 30 day booster because I new I wouldn't be playing every day and it would be a waste. CCP have even said the system isn't set in stone and are looking at changing it again. If you don't like it don't activate your boosters or buy more until they change it.
Beyobi Soldiers Of One Network Orion Empire 44	Posted - 2013.01.11 07:17:00 - [43] - Quote Was CCP aware this was a problem? Could they have prevented us from using the boosters until it was fixed? Was I aware I would cap out after 5 matches. Activated my booster before I even played 1 match to find out it was damaged this bad. I still have 2 left, and if the system is broken then I want my money back, take my merc pack stuff away and gimme my money. Simple. You will have no more complaints from me ever again, as I would have no room to argue anything as I would be a free player, or a banned one.
DJINN Riot Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 20	Posted - 2013.01.11 13:28:00 - [44] - Quote Beyobi wrote: I hit my daily cap well under 2 hours. Now I get 75 SP per match. This is HORRIBLE! My booster is only good for 2 hours instead of a full 24. I am now wasting my CASH on a broken game mechanic. I want my Booster Deactivated or Reset until this is fixed. If this is not fixed, I would greatly appreciate some way to refund my Merc Pack as Nothing is of any value to me anymore. None of it. Anyone else who hits there cap gets only 50 sp a map. 10 games after cap. 750 sp for 30day booster, 500 games for no booster. 50 games after cap 3,750 sp for 30d, 2,500 for no booster 100 games after cap 7,500 sp for 30d, 5,000 for no booster 1000 games after cap 75,000 sp for 30d, 50,000 for no booster So if you play 100 games after cap, every day for 30 days, you will make 75,000 more sp then someone without a booster who plays the exact same ammount as you, doesnt seem so worthless now....
DJINN Kujo Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 15	Posted - 2013.01.11 13:31:00 - [45] - Quote Actually there not, noticed the regular SP gained not including the Activer Booster gets hard capped at the 27,200 meaning 50% more of that will be allocated into Active Boosts, giving you around 40k at the end of the day... would you want to walk out of the day with 13k less SP? Rendering you at 91k less a week?
Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 22	Posted - 2013.01.11 13:32:00 - [46] - Quote Beyobi wrote: I hit my daily cap well under 2 hours. Now I get 75 SP per match. This is HORRIBLE! My booster is only good for 2 hours instead of a full 24. I am now wasting my CASH on a broken game mechanic. I want my Booster Deactivated or Reset until this is fixed. If this is not fixed, I would greatly appreciate some way to refund my Merc Pack as Nothing is of any value to me anymore. None of it. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah I hear Call of Duty is pretty popular, maybe you should check that out. It's open beta now, they don't want to scare away noobs that have no idea how the game works because people are using proto weapons and suits on day one of a new build.
KEROSIINI-TERO Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 248	Posted - 2013.01.11 13:37:00 - [47] - Quote if 30-day booster is gonna help you on 30 different days, it really helps you. Or you can do the exact same with 1-day boosters. Oh wait, they cost more! (okay you could in theory buy them every other day and always play on both sides of DT. But that's not practical for many TZ's)
Jimbeezy Imperfects Negative-Feedback 219	Posted - 2013.01.11 13:50:00 - [48] - Quote If you get the active booster the cap is raised to 40.800 SP per day.
BigussDikkuss Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 42	Posted - 2013.01.11 13:51:00 - [49] - Quote What do you mean "now"? As if they were not useless before - money spent on characters that are now wiped. People who spend money to play a beta and then complain about their purchase really need to think about what they've purchased and what a foolish decision that was for a minute. Take all the time you need. Hint - the joke's on you. You get what you pay for.
Vehlhiem 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 18	Posted - 2013.01.11 13:59:00 - [50] - Quote Im just kind of sad, since I generally only get 1-2 days a week that I can sit down and play, and when I do get to play I want to play for a sizable amount of time. I kind of wish they could give us the option of having daily reset caps or having a weekly reset cap, kind of like you choose passive SP for a character. That way someone like me (rather casual but invests 5-8 hours in one session) can still catch up with the people who play daily. shrugs Either way, I will continue playing, but kinda sucks with such a low cap.

Wooden Pints ZionTCD Legacy Rising 20	Posted - 2013.01.11 14:10:00 - [51] - Quote AM I missing somthing here? By having your 30 day booster on (persuming you cap out each day) you get 408k extra SP a month, Seems good to me.
Takahiro Kashuken Intara Direct Action Caldari State 102	Posted - 2013.01.11 14:58:00 - [52] - Quote So far with boosters im getting 40800 active and 36000 passive meaning im getting 76800 total in 1 day This will continue for 2 months at least But will i buy more AUR after or even another merc pack? im not sure but i have 2 months to think about it and if having boosters really did help me out then i may do so Its about pros and cons and what suits you the best atm
Vacridelle Denthalit Digital Mercs 2	Posted - 2013.01.11 15:12:00 - [53] - Quote I'd like to point out that we're realistically playing this game to make money, not skill points. Remember that entire premise about being a gun for hire? Yeah a cap sucks, but we still have passive SP available and an opportunity to have a second and third character. Use these to your advantages. Else go back to Doom or something if you want to run and gun.
BursegSardaukar Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 55	Posted - 2013.01.11 15:23:00 - [54] - Quote Berserker007 wrote: For a 30 day booster, you get a total of 720hours of active boost. However with the cap being hit in 2-3hours, you are getting between 60-90hours of active booster from said booster. So essentially your 30 boosters is 88% wasted on either not playing, or already hitting the cap and get 75SP. I've been hesitant to active my 30-day as well, I did buy a single day since I really can't play every day (not saying I have a "life," I just focus on running my Alliance in EVE more) and am awful enough to not hit the cap in 2 hours. But anyway, I believe a solution here could be that players with active boosters should have a grand-total pool of max SP they can gain within the lifespan of that booster, while everyone else just has that daily hard cap. This way, people with 1 day boosters will have a 1.5x cap of a normal player, and at a week, it would still be that 1.5x but spread over the entire seven days. This promotes guys (like myself) who don't have time EVERY DAY to play and hit that cap to still buy big boosters. I'd by a 30 day every month if I could hit the monthly cap on my own time!
Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2013.01.11 15:44:00 - [55] - Quote Beyobi wrote: I hit my daily cap well under 2 hours. Now I get 75 SP per match. This is HORRIBLE! My booster is only good for 2 hours instead of a full 24. I am now wasting my CASH on a broken game mechanic. I want my Booster Deactivated or Reset until this is fixed. If this is not fixed, I would greatly appreciate some way to refund my Merc Pack as Nothing is of any value to me anymore. None of it. Whine Whine Whine.... Beyobi wrote: #3 Posted: 2013.01.11 01:57 \| Report Like Why are people that can afford to play more than 2 hours a day being held back by terrible players that are only on 1 hour on a sunday? So more whining Do you know the booster still allows you to earn more SP every day ? 50% more exactly. They dont actually make you cap faster as they EXTEND your cap. So you cap at the same speed, but with more SP in your pocket. Also, i dont understand the big fuzz about active boosters being now usefull 2 hours a day ? Remember weekly cap ? It was overall the same thing except it was usefull A LOT LESS than 14 hours as the freaking diminishing returns made you reach ridiculously discouraging amount of SP after 3 hours of playing. So in fact. Over a month, 30 day active booster is way more interesting now than it was before as a 1day or 3 day booster would offer the SAME advantages due to the weekly cap. Dont mistake me, i liked the weekly better. But on the matter of how usefull active booster are.... They're either equally usefull, or more. People easily forget...
Andrew Ka Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 15	Posted - 2013.01.11 18:42:00 - [56] - Quote ITT: players with absurd amounts of free time complaining they can't power game to dominance.
James Thraxton The Exemplars 73	Posted - 2013.01.11 19:32:00 - [57] - Quote Gentlemen, we are playing the closed beta of an MMO, they usually need six months after official release to become normally balanced. furthermore, we are playing an RPGFPS, which is the most difficult type of game to design and balance. finally, we are dealing with CCP, if you've played eve for more than six months, you know that three quarters of the fixes that people complain about are eventually fixed, until another build messes them up again. Be cool, relax, they'll get to it before release. . . oh and what did you think was going to happen when you spent dollars on a game in testing? They said so on the agreement you checked yes next to, they're privileging you with access to the game early. they don't have to do anything for you until release, sorry.
Marston VC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 92	Posted - 2013.01.11 20:08:00 - [58] - Quote Beyobi wrote: I hit my daily cap well under 2 hours. Now I get 75 SP per match. This is HORRIBLE! My booster is only good for 2 hours instead of a full 24. I am now wasting my CASH on a broken game mechanic. I want my Booster Deactivated or Reset until this is fixed. If this is not fixed, I would greatly appreciate some way to refund my Merc Pack as Nothing is of any value to me anymore. None of it. i dont understand your reasoning at all..... before when it was the weakly cap you hit your cap in two to three days, four days if your really slacking, and then your booster would be near worthless for the next four to three days. I bet you complained about that too, and if you didn't then i dont see how you can argue this point either. Its the same system just scaled down, and in my opinion FAR better. First off, the booster increases your cap from 25k to 40k approximately (i dont remember the exact numbers on the dev posts) but there around there, thus making your booster a worth while thing to begin with. Secondly, this system is actually more friendly to people who play more often, because if you compare a player who plays daily as compared to someone who plays once or twice a week, the difference in SP would be huge in about two or three weeks, and tbh that is how it should be. Now someone is going to say "well i have a life and i dont have time to play........" well too f*cking bad! If you dont put the time into the game, then why should you expect to be rewarded?? because its not fair?? Thats a personal problem not the games problem. Finally, i realize this is just a bs thread with some QQ but it really irks me how people go out of their way to say stuff like "This is Horrible" without offering any sort of alternative short of a refund, and while also clearly not doing any background research on the topic there trying to argue. :/
Beyobi Soldiers Of One Network Orion Empire 44	Posted - 2013.01.11 20:19:00 - [59] - Quote This was supposedly the final character wipe , we are not being reimbursed for anything lost. If I knew there was another wipe with items reset, I wouldn't be voiceing my concerns. Now my 30 day boosters with a real world value of $15 dollars each are worthless. I'm out $45 dollars that I spent to support this game 6 month ago. The stats and environment of this game have drastically degraded to the point I am losing faith and interest in supporting it. If the game isn't released yet, then there shouldn't be a problem refunding my merc packs. Fix SP gain per battle or gimme my money back and I'll be on my way.
Beyobi Soldiers Of One Network Orion Empire 44	Posted - 2013.01.11 20:23:00 - [60] - Quote The SP gains don't even reflect if you are a good player. People going 13/2 are earning the same sp as people going 0/9.



Pages: 1 [2] 3 :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online/DUST514, the EVE/DUST514 logo, EVE/DUST514 and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to OMG Labs to use EVE Online/DUST514 and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, OMG Labs. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.