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ALM1GHTY STATIUS
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.08 22:24:00 -
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seriously? after all these SP plans have been proposed you do nothing about it? infact you make it worse by making those with IRL money even more dominant?!? this is simply a joke, I used to be able to buy a 3-day booster, burn my SP, and not have to spend all that much money, but now just to stay f*cking competitive I have to pay you every F*CKING WEEK! legitimately CCP, I hate you, I hate you with a burning passion, and if there was any other half-decent FPS w/ a community you would drop like a rock. You're one of the most one-sided, ridiculous game devs I've ever seen, whenever such a large portion of a game has ever complained about something SO MUCH, it has gotten changed, in any other game.
This is an FPS, we are not EVE scrubs, we want balance, we want to be able to fight veterans with proto gear if we have militia simply because we can catch up to their SP with hard work, SKILL, and determination. YOU are creating a game that YOU want to live for what was it? 7 years? but you design it to be a one to three year game! this is out of hand CCP. You're ideas are so contradictive I do not even know what to say about them other than LISTEN TO US! |
Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
1026
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Posted - 2013.01.08 22:29:00 -
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You are so mad.
But I kind of agree. |
Magpie Raven
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
161
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Posted - 2013.01.08 22:30:00 -
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Awwww shush up.
Nice rant though |
ALM1GHTY STATIUS
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.08 22:31:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:You are so mad.
But I kind of agree.
I AM FURIOUS. |
Tzaar Bomba
Doomheim
174
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Posted - 2013.01.08 22:31:00 -
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Not the way to go about this. |
arimal lavaren
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.08 22:32:00 -
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Yes because all that SP your afraid to miss out on will even mater after the first 5 million or so. I know everyone is still on the tearfest because of all the changes but your panicking is very short sighted. Dust characters grow wide not tall. |
steadyhand amarr
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.08 22:48:00 -
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look just please noone and make the whole thing passive like EvE. fully aware im the only person who wants this |
D'Finn Rhedlyne
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
266
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Posted - 2013.01.08 22:51:00 -
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Soooo... I guess you want to get ahead from the start, like a rabbit with a rocket up its arse? You want to steam ahead until you are godlike within 6 months and pwn every new player with your Protogear and lol at the tears?
Got news for you, ain't gonna happen.
Events are going to be the biggest boost for your merc's measly skills.
Enuff with the QQ get back to doing what you do so average... killing merc's. |
Skihids
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
968
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Posted - 2013.01.08 22:53:00 -
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It's not intuitive for us as we have been struggling through the first 5-10M SP for months, but there will come a time when you max out all your core skills and start to add flexibility instead. At that point you will be fully competitive in any match.
I foresee a lot of folks using boosters for the first 3-4 months and then stopping once they max out one class. Some will keep boosting to get into a vehicle on top of their ground game, but even then it would only be another 2-3 months. |
GLOO GLOO
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
217
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Posted - 2013.01.08 22:54:00 -
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Some people didn't understand the meaning of MMO/F2P !!!
And it's just the beginning... |
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D'Finn Rhedlyne
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
266
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Posted - 2013.01.08 22:58:00 -
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GLOO GLOO wrote:Some people didn't understand the meaning of MMO/F2P !!!
And it's just the beginning... You know... I could have just said this instead!
+1 |
843 pano
843 Boot Camp
200
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Posted - 2013.01.08 23:04:00 -
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Relax and have a homebrew.
With no boosters you can earn 1.4M SP a month, that's pretty good. With all boosters it goes to 2.1 M SP. Within 4-5 months you'll be where you are right now, not to bad if you ask me.
Plus, most good players can just run a free dragonfly speed suit with a militia shotti and rule the field, no SP needed. |
ALM1GHTY STATIUS
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.08 23:09:00 -
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843 pano wrote:Relax and have a homebrew.
With no boosters you can earn 1.4M SP a month, that's pretty good. With all boosters it goes to 2.1 M SP. Within 4-5 months you'll be where you are right now, not to bad if you ask me.
Plus, most good players can just run a free dragonfly speed suit with a militia shotti and rule the field, no SP needed.
account is a month and 7 days old, 3.5mil SP, I won't be able to do that anymore. |
Skag Barron
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
52
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Posted - 2013.01.08 23:14:00 -
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ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:seriously? after all these SP plans have been proposed you do nothing about it? infact you make it worse by making those with IRL money even more dominant?!? this is simply a joke, I used to be able to buy a 3-day booster, burn my SP, and not have to spend all that much money, but now just to stay f*cking competitive I have to pay you every F*CKING WEEK! legitimately CCP, I hate you, I hate you with a burning passion, and if there was any other half-decent FPS w/ a community you would drop like a rock. You're one of the most one-sided, ridiculous game devs I've ever seen, whenever such a large portion of a game has ever complained about something SO MUCH, it has gotten changed, in any other game.
This is an FPS, we are not EVE scrubs, we want balance, we want to be able to fight veterans with proto gear if we have militia simply because we can catch up to their SP with hard work, SKILL, and determination. YOU are creating a game that YOU want to live for what was it? 7 years? but you design it to be a one to three year game! this is out of hand CCP. You're ideas are so contradictive I do not even know what to say about them other than LISTEN TO US!
oh another I'm not getting what I want so I'm gonna scream and shout and stamp my feet untill someone pats me on the head and goes there's a good boy, you have what ever you want, mommies little helper
Thread.
nothing wrong with sp at the mo works fine, get over it.........
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SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2013.01.08 23:18:00 -
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I'm with almighty on this and hope he kicks up more dust about this subject. Before with the weekly cap at least you could schedule out when you can catch up to the no lifers - now there's no chance of it.
I doubt CCP put even 2 moments of thinking into this. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2013.01.08 23:19:00 -
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ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:seriously? after all these SP plans have been proposed you do nothing about it? infact you make it worse by making those with IRL money even more dominant?!? this is simply a joke, I used to be able to buy a 3-day booster, burn my SP, and not have to spend all that much money, but now just to stay f*cking competitive I have to pay you every F*CKING WEEK! legitimately CCP, I hate you, I hate you with a burning passion, and if there was any other half-decent FPS w/ a community you would drop like a rock. You're one of the most one-sided, ridiculous game devs I've ever seen, whenever such a large portion of a game has ever complained about something SO MUCH, it has gotten changed, in any other game.
This is an FPS, we are not EVE scrubs, we want balance, we want to be able to fight veterans with proto gear if we have militia simply because we can catch up to their SP with hard work, SKILL, and determination. YOU are creating a game that YOU want to live for what was it? 7 years? but you design it to be a one to three year game! this is out of hand CCP. You're ideas are so contradictive I do not even know what to say about them other than LISTEN TO US!
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Actually, for content: You don't need proto gear and massive SP to kill people and be competitive. Believe me, this point will be proven time and time again in a month. |
Goat of Dover
Shadow Company HQ
161
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Posted - 2013.01.08 23:26:00 -
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It is a MMO. In MMOs you grind to get what you want. Some it is a weekly reset to get you marks, points, SP, whatever you are grinding for. Now you have to grind and there is cap to how much you can grind and if you miss a point in between two resets you miss out. That is just the way MMOs work, the people who can play more take the lead and the people who can pay more go even farther(for a free to play game). Personally I hope they slow the grind down even more because with the numbers that have been figured out you will still get to the top fast, to fast for an MMO that is supposed to last really long.
The top in SP will always be the people who don't miss out on a reset, and the ones with no life really. |
Tzaar Bomba
Doomheim
174
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Posted - 2013.01.08 23:29:00 -
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Eve deals with just passive sp. youre all whining about losing a boost you were givin. Learn to walk without the crutches ladies. |
Sylwester Dziewiecki
Doomheim
83
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Posted - 2013.01.08 23:41:00 -
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ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:seriously? after all these SP plans have been proposed you do nothing about it? infact you make it worse by making those with IRL money even more dominant?!? this is simply a joke, I used to be able to buy a 3-day booster, burn my SP, and not have to spend all that much money, but now just to stay f*cking competitive I have to pay you every F*CKING WEEK! legitimately CCP, I hate you, I hate you with a burning passion, and if there was any other half-decent FPS w/ a community you would drop like a rock. You're one of the most one-sided, ridiculous game devs I've ever seen, whenever such a large portion of a game has ever complained about something SO MUCH, it has gotten changed, in any other game.
This is an FPS, we are not EVE scrubs, we want balance, we want to be able to fight veterans with proto gear if we have militia simply because we can catch up to their SP with hard work, SKILL, and determination. YOU are creating a game that YOU want to live for what was it? 7 years? but you design it to be a one to three year game! this is out of hand CCP. You're ideas are so contradictive I do not even know what to say about them other than LISTEN TO US! Someone ate too many snickers..
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SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.08 23:43:00 -
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Tzaar Bomba wrote:Eve deals with just passive sp. youre all whining about losing a boost you were givin. Learn to walk without the crutches ladies. Gtfo - you're in the wrong game. Eve is somewhere else. This is DUST514 - different game completely. So please stop comparing two different genres under the same microscope. |
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Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2013.01.08 23:47:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Tzaar Bomba wrote:Eve deals with just passive sp. youre all whining about losing a boost you were givin. Learn to walk without the crutches ladies. Gtfo - you're in the wrong game. Eve is somewhere else. This is DUST514 - different game completely. So please stop comparing two different genres under the same microscope.
You're an idiot.
Dust and EVE are the same damn game as of Thursday.
They just get played in different ways. |
Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
1026
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Posted - 2013.01.08 23:49:00 -
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I'm going to say one thing. Casual players and people with not enough time aren't going to wait for 2 weeks to unlock that one new gun. They will not wait months for the best suit. |
Skag Barron
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
52
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Posted - 2013.01.08 23:49:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Tzaar Bomba wrote:Eve deals with just passive sp. youre all whining about losing a boost you were givin. Learn to walk without the crutches ladies. Gtfo - you're in the wrong game. Eve is somewhere else. This is DUST514 - different game completely. So please stop comparing two different genres under the same microscope.
Two different games link, based in the same universe, same story line, same technology, fighting the same wars on the same planets, weapons and armor supplyied from one game to the other.
yes two completely different games |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2013.01.08 23:50:00 -
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Skag Barron wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Tzaar Bomba wrote:Eve deals with just passive sp. youre all whining about losing a boost you were givin. Learn to walk without the crutches ladies. Gtfo - you're in the wrong game. Eve is somewhere else. This is DUST514 - different game completely. So please stop comparing two different genres under the same microscope. Two different games link, based in the same universe, same story line, same technology, fighting the same wars on the same planets, weapons and armor supplyied from one game to the other. yes two completely different games Glad you understand the difference between a space MMO and an FPS MMO. Would of been troubling if you hadn't. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.08 23:51:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Tzaar Bomba wrote:Eve deals with just passive sp. youre all whining about losing a boost you were givin. Learn to walk without the crutches ladies. Gtfo - you're in the wrong game. Eve is somewhere else. This is DUST514 - different game completely. So please stop comparing two different genres under the same microscope. You're an idiot. Dust and EVE are the same damn game as of Thursday. They just get played in different ways. And wow. You guys are really crapping out some arrogance today. Try to keep your idioicy down and stop comparing two different genres of games. |
Blunt Smkr
Doomheim
62
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Posted - 2013.01.08 23:53:00 -
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It is pretty stupid they did it this way. Now i gotta keep boosters active 7 days week if i want to keep up with people. An not sure if the sp system is for casuals or hardcore players. Cause a casual palyer is going to fall behind alot if he doesnt buy boosters n doesnt play every day.
This sp system just suks an i know alot of people are just going to say fuk this |
Dr Debo Galaxy
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
189
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Posted - 2013.01.08 23:54:00 -
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Each person has a decision to spend money or not. If you spend your money don't complain or hate the company hate your poor will power. This is not food, water,shelter. It is an indulgence. Which are all money pits. I have not spent on dime in this game, but I feel competitive. This sounds like a personal problem to me. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2013.01.08 23:54:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Tzaar Bomba wrote:Eve deals with just passive sp. youre all whining about losing a boost you were givin. Learn to walk without the crutches ladies. Gtfo - you're in the wrong game. Eve is somewhere else. This is DUST514 - different game completely. So please stop comparing two different genres under the same microscope. You're an idiot. Dust and EVE are the same damn game as of Thursday. They just get played in different ways. And wow. You guys are really crapping out some arrogance today. Try to keep your idioicy down and stop comparing two different genres of games.
You're an obvious Troll at best, but you could at least put some effort into it and vary it so it looks like an actual opinion and discussion rather than you just trying to look like an ignorant little 15 year old console player.
Different Genres yes, different games? no.
Icy Tiger: SP and new guns/suits will not make people log in to play. That's the player generated content. |
Berserker007
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
206
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Posted - 2013.01.08 23:56:00 -
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ok, this is how i see the new SP system and the affects :
1). Pure marketing so CCP makes more money. 1 & 3 day boosters are useless, so people spend for 7 day and use aurum faster
2). People will be more "level" which is bad in both FPS & MMO aspects; as there is always a imbalance for those who put more time in
3). Solely playing for ISK now. After 2 hours of play, u hit your active cap for the day, then get some ISK. However, you are banking on this ISK, yet you need to wait a week or so to use it
4). Unless SP requirements are toned down for the reduce SP gain (40-50% of what we were getting before this hotfix), skilling will feel very slow. During E3, it took roughly 1-2 weeks to go from Standard --> Proto suit . Since the 4x was taken away and we had regular gain, it went to roughtly 4-6 weeks. With current gains, you are look at 2-3 MONTHS for a proto suit alone; which by itself isn't all that special unless u are running straight damage mods. As for secondary requirements, like CPU & PG, that another month. Then add shielding skills to lv4 across board; that's another 4-6 weeks.
So to run setups that currently take us 3months to get; you will be looking at something like 5-7 months. Now IF we are still in "beta" then that is a problem.
So yes, at the moment on the amount of SP we are given, time it takes, and gear req; to run your decent fit Type 2 at the least, you are looking at close to 2 months.
Just something to think on folks |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2013.01.08 23:56:00 -
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Blunt Smkr wrote:It is pretty stupid they did it this way. Now i gotta keep boosters active 7 days week if i want to keep up with people. An not sure if the sp system is for casuals or hardcore players. Cause a casual palyer is going to fall behind alot if he doesnt buy boosters n doesnt play every day.
This sp system just suks an i know alot of people are just going to say fuk this
SP is not as important as you tards are making out.
I took a 2 month break and have millions less SP than the top guys and can still take them.
I've also got 1m SP invested in corp skills.
That's about 4-5m million... Litterally HALF the sp of people like the dark cloud and i can still play just fine. |
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