Additional comment on precursor controls. In ways precursor was very simular to codex and this build. How it differed was how responsive the controls where in precursor. They where very high in responsivity. Meaning little harder but also once mastered you could turn faster and correct your directions very quick. You where alot more in control of your dropship once you got the hang of them. Also the mechanics in precursor made nano fibers viable on a dropship. Meaning you moved faster and got faster response out of it. In a all around way flying felt more lively and you could be more unpredictable.

Controls are actually alright. In my opinion.

Controls are molasses. This is near their worst point.

Controls are molasses. This is near their worst point.

pilots need WPs for droppin ppl off
dunno about the passive skill to give hybrids more range
small rails should already have alot of range imo dunno if it does tho

No idea why people think the CONTROLS are difficult, they aren't. It's just finding something USEFUL to do with them that is difficult.

This is the biggest point right now. There is nothing I can do piloting a dropship that assists my team more than just gunning on the ground. I would do it for no reward if there was, but I haven't found a way to do it yet.

Sadly, right now dropships are just expensive toys.

Not if you coordinate with a squad. I have used dropships to great effect as transport vehicles in the past. But in order to do so you need coordination with a lot of people.

The Dropship is a strategic tool, and with any strategy, requires a whole lot of teamwork.

Not if you coordinate with a squad. I have used dropships to great effect as transport vehicles in the past. But in order to do so you need coordination with a lot of people.

The Dropship is a strategic tool, and with any strategy, requires a whole lot of teamwork.

I've covered this in other threads. Dropships aren't useful for transport of a coordinated attack force because no such animal exists in the game. Squad size restrictions yeild one pilot and three passengers which is not enough for an assault on a defended objective. Corp battles may have double the number, but because they have half the team size you can't afford to fill the ship and leave only one man behind for defense.

You might get lucky against lightly defended objectives, but a LAV can also deliver three infantry cheaper and with a bit more stealth.

an armored weaponized

1. Increase to flight ceiling.
2. Codex collision damage. Return to game right now collision damage is insane
3. Precursor flight mechanics.
4. Militant forge taken out of game.
5. Bonus to repair modules 15% passive would do wonders.
6. Proto dropships need more cpu and pg. They should be the same as standard counterparts.
7. Points for doing there job.
8. Passive ability that give hybrid turrets 50% more range.

Note on precursor flight mechanics

Something I haven't seen anyone mention : The one thing I want to see above all else for dropships, is that their engines stop being miraculously incapable of thrust if the dropship ends up on it's side. Too many times have I had to weep at the loss of a derpship because the RDV pilot was drunk and it bounced off the ground as it was dropped and landed on it's side before I could get in. Either the ship needs to be able continue to apply thrust, or there needs to be a way to right the ship. (Holding L2/Reverse Thrust to have the ship 'fall' back onto it's landing gear would probably be the easiest way)


More warpoints for pilots would be nice too, like said above.

Not if you coordinate with a squad. I have used dropships to great effect as transport vehicles in the past. But in order to do so you need coordination with a lot of people.

The Dropship is a strategic tool, and with any strategy, requires a whole lot of teamwork.

I agree with the eject passengers feature.

also I wanted to give some feedback about milita forge gun damage.

I was recently shot down by a single forge gun round. My fitting was was follows:

Viper
1) Milita Shield booster
1) Milita Shield Extenter
1) Milita Shield resistor

With this fitting, in order to be turned to ash in a single shot the militia forge round did a minimum of 2,440 damage.

little much in my opinion

Breach Forge with Complex damage mods... it'll happen sometimes. I still think it's silly that an infantry gun of any sort does more damage than a Large Rail Turret, but it's a little hard-wired now.
If you have gunners, tell them to primary any Heavies that look your way.

Just to be clear, it was specifically a militia forge gun.

I can understand a well fitted advanced forge gun, but that's not what hit me.

1. Increase to flight ceiling. - No
2. Codex collision damage. Return to game right now collision damage is insane - Yes
3. Precursor flight mechanics. - Maybe
4. Militant forge taken out of game. - No
5. Bonus to repair modules 15% passive would do wonders. - No
6. Proto dropships need more cpu and pg. They should be the same as standard counterparts. - Yes
7. Points for doing there job. - Yes
8. Passive ability that give hybrid turrets 50% more range. - Maybe

I agree with the eject passengers feature.

also I wanted to give some feedback about milita forge gun damage.

I was recently shot down by a single forge gun round. My fitting was was follows:

Viper
1) Milita Shield booster
1) Milita Shield Extenter
1) Milita Shield resistor

With this fitting, in order to be turned to ash in a single shot the militia forge round did a minimum of 2,440 damage.

little much in my opinion

Don't know what to tell you.

I was hit with 1 round, my dropship turned to ash. The kill feed in the top right stated "militia forge gun"

I agree that it's too much damage for a militia forge gun to put out.

I agree with the eject passengers feature.

also I wanted to give some feedback about milita forge gun damage.

I was recently shot down by a single forge gun round. My fitting was was follows:

Viper
1) Milita Shield booster
1) Milita Shield Extenter
1) Milita Shield resistor

With this fitting, in order to be turned to ash in a single shot the militia forge round did a minimum of 2,440 damage.

little much in my opinion

Right now I think it is mostly... ok. I like that the controls are difficult to master as it makes the time I spent learning them worthwhile. Not everyone is equipped to be a pilot so why should just anyone in the game be able to hop in and fly.

1. Increase to flight ceiling.
2. Codex collision damage. Return to game right now collision damage is insane
3. Precursor flight mechanics.
4. Militant forge taken out of game.
5. Bonus to repair modules 15% passive would do wonders.
6. Proto dropships need more cpu and pg. They should be the same as standard counterparts.
7. Points for doing there job.
8. Passive ability that give hybrid turrets 50% more range.

Note on precursor flight mechanics

Hello CCP, hello all. I am mainly directing this towards CCP Blam! as he is the vehicle designer of Dust 514.

ok so, Dropships, i love dropships, infact the only thing that i wanted to do in Dust was to fly. I was met with great frustration at first, however now i can fly 5 feet off the ground hauling nuts. This was no easy feat, and required many hours of grinding through ambush games so i could fly a dropship for that sweet 10 min before it was shot down. As most of you know, pilots are probably the most underpaid workforce in Dust currently. Though i don't really mind that, even if i don't get paid for my job i still love to do it. Anyway, as i have flown and crashed at LEAST 50 DS i thought i would come here to share my thoughts with CCP and the community about some minor changes to DS that I think would make it 100x better.

1.) A red and green light that would be inside the dropship next to the seats at the forward section of the ship and one or two at the aft section. The light would be on red normally, however when the pilot pushes say 'X' the light switches to green and a noise is made to signal the troops inside to GTFO! (i cant tell you how annoying it is when im trying to do my job and teammates wont get out when i want them to) this would really REALLY help dropship pilots communicate with the smurfs in the dropship that they would normally not be able to tell GTFO (Also for passangers that would look really cool!!!)

2.) I hear that it is already planned, but i would like to put it down anyway. FLARES! if anyone can run a starter swarm launcher kit then why cant i have atleast some way to defend my 428,000 isk investment? Please, i feel so helpless when i Afterburn away from swarms and feel like a badass only to have them 180 and slam into me regardless! (and maybe a noise when im getting locked?)

3.) For those who want a more....aggressive dropship. Some kind of missle pods that the pilot controls and not the gunners. make it highslot 4 missles and a long cooldowntime? sacrificing that tank for offensive capabilities?

4.) Its odd that dropships have to be deployed by other dropships. I read in the uprising article that the guristas deployed dropships form a freighter in orbit to extract people. so why cant i start in my dropship when i call it in? Balancing? i have lost a few dropships to those horrible...horrible heavy lifter dropships. Thats the worst way to lose your dropship. crashed before you could even fly :(

5.) JUST as an idea. Very costly to fit cloak gen for the dropship? would make getting around those pesky anti air turrets alot more efficient. However i wouldnt want to have my cloak run out infront of a turret, cause i has no shield tank! but thats balancing for you!

6.) really the last thing that i would say could really help the dropship is a large map with lots of players that will want to catch a ride instead of walking. im sure that your already working on said maps. It just really needs to be said, big maps so we underpaid flyboys can really take to the sky's!

CCP Blam! i watched your videos on Playstation store and really enjoyed them, and i got pretty excited to hear your favorite vehicle thus far is the dropship. Us pilots are hurting, and we could really use the first two suggestions right now, I still dont even care about getting paid, I just want to do my job better and have a fighting chance to bring that dropship home.

CCP i want to thank you for taking the time to listen to these gripes, i cant tell you how proud i am of your teams! I hope you get the time to listen to this humble underpaid pilots thoughts on how you can help us out. Again Thank You!!!!!!!!