I think what you're more looking for is survivability of the suit itself (or maybe that's just me, idk, i'm not a doctor). I can do plenty of damage with just a basic advanced HMG.

This right here.

To me it feels like Heavies do not have good survivability for their price tag.

Right now, i feel like heavies are ok. The high end heavies probably need more slots and pg/cpu to justify their cost.

Haven't reached these expensive suits but type-II is working just fine

Always has, the proto suit is the gimpy one.

Just give us one more low slot, this is all we ask.

sorry totally disagree with this thread

i seen a friend run an entire skirmish in his heavy suit and he went 50-5 he had logi support so he didnt lose the suit hence no isk lose

heavies solo anihilating everyone no this is unbalanced

they should lose and do lose to assault and scouts if they are good

So a heavy with a pocket logi should not be able to get kills or stay alive?

If a heavy is supposed to be as slow give us are damage back,that way we can stop someone running up on us.

I cant count how many people run at me and get inside my arc.
But people say they are to strong, bull you shouldn't run head on at a heavy ever not even if yoir a heavy.

Are you referring to Heavy militia? Pair with a logibro and you guys are unstoppable.

Oh please!!

Bong, bong! two shots dead! from shotgun since too slow to turn around and see whos behind logibro and heavy dead.
ZRRRRRRMMMM! dead! laser rifle since too slow to get out of the way.
Boom! militia grenade spam.....dead!! since too slow.

Hideing around a corner gets kills but then so does a cheap militia scout suit with a militia shotgun.

The heavy is too fragile and too expensive.
Not spending anymore skillpoints in that area.
All skillpoints are going for scout/shotgun since its far better sp wise and cost benefit ratio wise.

Next build the only reason for heavy is a militia forge gun that takes zip!! for skillpoints.

Here is somethings I have noticed, if you suck at AR you go either laser or mass driver. And if you suck at both of those or dislike them you go heavy or logi. I have no problem with people using heavies last build(except for murder taxis! How can that fat suit get in and out so fast??? Lies!!!), but this build my AR is a joke to heavies.

-.- everything has weakness and advantages you might as well just say if it bleeds you can kill it right, then give me back my AR. Ohh no it was "OP"(overly popular)

Again WTF?

Whats wrong with the ARs except for giving the Breach a buff?

I'm starting to lose my respect for you guys. There is a lot of crying coming from you especially considered how good most of you are. Do you have problems with handling the recoil? Many of us actually do better after the AR nerf since most people can't aim properly.

What don't you people understand, I do NOT NEED YOUR RESPECT. Try the hmg and tell me why it's kick is less than an AR, same with the smg? If they are going for a realistic sci fi fps then other guns need to get more kick. What's wrong with ARs and every other weapon is there is no signifigant difference between standard and proto. Look at stats alone all my ratios have gone up. I'm just pointing real flaws with the game as is

In regards as to why AR has less recoil than AR...

It has a tremendous rate of fire, and is mean to just "spray" bullets. It has less recoil, but considerably more RBS than the AR. You shoot your AR at a stationary target, and most of the rounds hit with decent accuracy.
You shoot your HMG at same stationary target, and a considerable number of rounds hit AROUND the target. The reduced recoil seems to be there to balance the inherent reduce accuracy of HMG.

True. Not noticeable at closer ranges, since most rounds will hit, but at longer ranges, you're lucky if half your rounds hit.