DUST Search - heavies

KingBabar wrote:

Mr Zitro wrote:

KingBabar wrote:

Mr Zitro wrote:

-.- everything has weakness and advantages you might as well just say if it bleeds you can kill it right, then give me back my AR. Ohh no it was "OP"(overly popular)

Again WTF?

Whats wrong with the ARs except for giving the Breach a buff?

I'm starting to lose my respect for you guys. There is a lot of crying coming from you especially considered how good most of you are. Do you have problems with handling the recoil? Many of us actually do better after the AR nerf since most people can't aim properly.

What don't you people understand, I do NOT NEED YOUR RESPECT. Try the hmg and tell me why it's kick is less than an AR, same with the smg? If they are going for a realistic sci fi fps then other guns need to get more kick. What's wrong with ARs and every other weapon is there is no signifigant difference between standard and proto. Look at stats alone all my ratios have gone up. I'm just pointing real flaws with the game as is

Meh I dont agree. The difference between an Exile and a Duvolle is very noticable, especially at range. The difference in accuracy pluss damage combined definately has an impact.

And why would I wield a HMG at the cost of not carrying equipment, having twice the hitboks and running at assault walking speed? The best heavies in this game all use ARs to my knowledge.


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SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.01.04 21:36:00 - [1] - Quote Mmm... Heavies don't have an issue with DPS and don't have an issue with survivability. CCP hit a sweet spot with heavies I feel - it's the mods. Mods ruin us in end game suits - and price tags. As it stands I can solo anyone with any weapon they hold - the ones I can't are the ones always in proto using the best mods that stack for them so much better then me. I thought 25% increase in shield and armor would factor in heavier when I put on the best mods for enhancing total amount of shield and armor - it doesn't honestly help. I can get my HP to 1000 - then I see an assault guy with an exile with 700 health - 500 of it shield. 300 health difference? And that's if I put on all mods into defense - and what's more upsetting is that I'm told that that suit can still throw on a damage complex mod - so his exile hits harder then a devollue with same ammo clip. If I try to keep up the same ratio of power the militia heavy vs militia assault has - I'd be spending nearly 5 times in price.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.01.05 10:05:00 - [2] - Quote KingBabar wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: KingBabar wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: -.- everything has weakness and advantages you might as well just say if it bleeds you can kill it right, then give me back my AR. Ohh no it was "OP"(overly popular) Again WTF? Whats wrong with the ARs except for giving the Breach a buff? I'm starting to lose my respect for you guys. There is a lot of crying coming from you especially considered how good most of you are. Do you have problems with handling the recoil? Many of us actually do better after the AR nerf since most people can't aim properly. What don't you people understand, I do NOT NEED YOUR RESPECT. Try the hmg and tell me why it's kick is less than an AR, same with the smg? If they are going for a realistic sci fi fps then other guns need to get more kick. What's wrong with ARs and every other weapon is there is no signifigant difference between standard and proto. Look at stats alone all my ratios have gone up. I'm just pointing real flaws with the game as is Meh I dont agree. The difference between an Exile and a Duvolle is very noticable, especially at range. The difference in accuracy pluss damage combined definately has an impact. And why would I wield a HMG at the cost of not carrying equipment, having twice the hitboks and running at assault walking speed? The best heavies in this game all use ARs to my knowledge. Who? The ones I think of all use HMG (Example Core, HowDidThatTaste) - basically I'm the only AR heavy I know.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.01.05 10:17:00 - [3] - Quote If the argument is wether or not proto AR is worth it - nope. It's a dumb choice - better to throw a complex mod to enhance exile and use everything else for survivability. You'll end up using a bit more CPU I believe but at a lesser cost and 1 slot loss for nearly the same exact results. Nerfing the proto weapons was great for nubs lol anyone with the proper skills can make assault suits very very cost effective and good enough to face much higher tiered enemies. Really hope they plan on fixing that when we get our first build during beta at least.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.01.05 18:06:00 - [4] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: Just started using my new heavy fit, but ended up getting team killed every time or blown up by explosives. Price seems kind of high, even more so with the amount of Aurum I put into them (blame CCP for low SP gain). Good fourth of my matches when I solo are me dodging blueberry LAV's lol
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.01.06 05:59:00 - [5] - Quote Olav Grey-Mane wrote: Every heavy i've ever seen and shot at has taken 48 rounds to the chest with my geck assault rifle and only lost their shield, dare it say it... heavies need to be nerfed badly. proof: I can take out an LAV with my gun easier than I can a heavy with my gun and 2 grenades and squad mate behind me, I'm surprised no one jumped at a chance to say how bad this guy is. He's saying he can kill an LAV easier with his gun then he can against a heavy with nades and squad mates thrown in. I had no idea his corp was that awful. Or maybe the trolling is suppose to be so obvious no one had to comment? I'm so confused right now.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.01.07 21:19:00 - [6] - Quote Those of us who are of heavy dedicated build - take a look back at some of the threads discussing heavies. Notice the two things in common: One - Everyone thinks we want to be OP rather then not wanting to be walking ISK dump trucks. Instead of us asking to be able to afford and be more then just HMG/AV - people think we want to be do alls. Second: People can't agree on themselves. Half are saying "Heavy? Pfft - no problem." The other half is saying, "I see one and walk the other way - way OP." Peoples biased ability to handle the ISK waste known as the heavy has lead to some very un-constructive posts relating one situation to there entire argument. Or comments on how situational the heavy should always be. Then why the hell is assault the do all at half the cost? "It doesn't AV as well." I had to put over a million SP down to be a half way effective AV at a very high cost. Assaults have it so easy it makes me cringe everytime I see some ******** post on these threads arguing how OP heavies are. Put one on - give it a go. You'll love dodging LAV's (From both sides), Lasers who can turn there gun faster then you can get out of the way, turrets that bring you down in either one shot or just plain quick as hell - and this is there auto fire. MD's that know you can't out run them and they don't even need to try - snipers who know you'll never close that gap - or tanks who laugh as your the only AV on your team - fighting for survival rather then trying to bring down a tank. All the while you'll look at your piggy bank and realize that militia grade heavies are fodder and running anything above type-II will break your bank eventually. And I'm an AR Heavy - I feel terrible for HMG users. They get there pwnage in there proper spots - but everywhere else is just them waiting for death.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.01.07 21:27:00 - [7] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: And I'm an AR Heavy - I feel terrible for HMG users. They get there pwnage in there proper spots - but everywhere else is just them waiting for death. HMG heavy > AR heavy. lol not really. To the heavies who put all there SP down to make there HMG meat grinders - I seem to be the best counter lol Gotta love there big hit box sometimes :)