add a bonus payout of 100 ISK per warpoint.

You get more WP achieving than killfarming if you think strategically. I do the logi thing, usually get a 2/7 KD and wind up in the top three 90% of the time.

reward value to the team. Killfarmers will get cookies but I can get more WP faster with reps, hacks, assists and revives than you can just rocking out random murders.

Oh, and I forgot to mention, if you actually did something OTHER than shooting people, like hacking an objective, supporting your team-mates, etc. then you would still be higher than that 11/11 guy on the WP leaderboards.

You made a bad suggestion that you failed to justify in any real way, nobody liked it, so now you're going to take your ball and go home?

Ok this thread reminded me of what was implemented in another game (one of the all time best!) Metal Gear Online.

Now the way the penalty system worked was a three fold approach: 1. Emblems 2. a number ranking 3. a letter rating.

The emblems were probably the coolest of the penalty and award system. Say if you had a lot of head shot kills, your emblem would be a Eagle. Conversely if you died by a lot of head shots you would earn a Sloth emblem. There were many emblems in the game, and I suggest that people go look them up and come up with some of our own.

The numbers I think help see where you are to the next Letter level. But you just don't keep increasing, there are penalties for doing bad and advantages of doing good. Say if you die by a player that isnt as good as you, you lose prestige. If you kill someone better than you, you gain prestige.

There are many ways to find out the good players and the bad through stats, but to make it publicly known is either an incentive for people to do better (for those that care) or a badge of honor and also a good recruiting tool.

This way you wont really be punished but there is a social aspect that shows what type of player you are.

First of all, this belongs in Feedback/Requests.
Second, this is a horrible idea, so horrible in fact, that I am angry I can't find the -1 button.

A + 50 points for a kill and - 5 or -10 points for a death does not seem overly dramatic to me. It also keeps the people who have gobs of ISK in line to a degree for just the reason you've stated. Many people in this game are both fearless AND foolish when it comes to "storming the lines" or "playing bait"; what's another dropsuit to them when they have 500 million ISK in the bank? Snipers are easily handled or avoided in my opinion, and I prefer Ambush to Skirmish. In fact, I haven't played a Skirmish game since the second week I was in the Demo back in November.

Having absolutely no penalty for death when it comes to WP is extremely small minded in my viewpoint.

The real money and the real challenge will come in Low Sec, and .later Null Sec with battles like Faction Warfare and Sovereignty. Those are objectives battles and the "ambush only" KDR fixated mentality will cost anyone who has it (and by extension their team and corp mates) dearly.

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If this has been said a 1000 times already, my appologies. But here is time number 1001.

If I have 10 kills and 1 death and another player has 11 kills and 11 deaths, no way they should be atop me at the end of the match on the WP "leaderboard". Not that those "leaderboards" mean a darn thing, but still,,,,

First of all, this belongs in Feedback/Requests.
Second, this is a horrible idea, so horrible in fact, that I am angry I can't find the -1 button.

This is the best response I have read in this thread.

I quite enjoyed the "Medal Reward" system in BLUR too. Would be nice if something like this were implemented in Dust since the negative WP prospect would apparently be soooo detrimental to the play styles of so many (bad, lazy, inept) players who have voiced their concerns here.

Let me clean up and correct that post of yours cause I'm nice like that.

What you meant to say was:

"You made a suggestion that I personally do not agree with, and my likewise braindead compatriots also find unpalatable to our SP-ISK grinding suicide runs. I see that you have both explained and justified your opinion on several occasions, but I'm chosing to ignore those points because it would invalidate my argument and make me look like a whiner. The fact that you could possibly enjoy a game that CCP does not have anything to do with and dare to voice such a conceit is unforgivable on this forum."

There. Translation complete.

Some problems that spring to mind;

Which death would you count as losing yourself WP, when you hit the deck, or when you bleed out?
What happens if you're revived? Do you get the WP back? Shouldn't the person who revived you get more WP for it too?
What happens if you're playing Ambush and are unlucky with your spawns, why should you lose WP for bad luck? What happens if you end up with negative WP? Do you owe SP/ISK to the rest of your team?

Ok this thread reminded me of what was implemented in another game (one of the all time best!) Metal Gear Online.

Now the way the penalty system worked was a three fold approach: 1. Emblems 2. a number ranking 3. a letter rating.

The emblems were probably the coolest of the penalty and award system. Say if you had a lot of head shot kills, your emblem would be a Eagle. Conversely if you died by a lot of head shots you would earn a Sloth emblem. There were many emblems in the game, and I suggest that people go look them up and come up with some of our own.

The numbers I think help see where you are to the next Letter level. But you just don't keep increasing, there are penalties for doing bad and advantages of doing good. Say if you die by a player that isnt as good as you, you lose prestige. If you kill someone better than you, you gain prestige.

There are many ways to find out the good players and the bad through stats, but to make it publicly known is either an incentive for people to do better (for those that care) or a badge of honor and also a good recruiting tool.

This way you wont really be punished but there is a social aspect that shows what type of player you are.

you get negative points for killing teammates.

Trust me I know

The other player is actually much more aggressive and possibly better at the game.

He fought in 22 engagements during the match and you fought in 11.

Your fix isn't useful or good as it would discourage aggression and fight seeking.

The risk tuning should be done elsewhere.