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Anyanka Shadowmane
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.12.31 13:55:00 -
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BigussDikkuss wrote:If this has been said a 1000 times already, my appologies. But here is time number 1001.
If I have 10 kills and 1 death and another player has 11 kills and 11 deaths, no way they should be atop me at the end of the match on the WP "leaderboard". Not that those "leaderboards" mean a darn thing, but still,,,,
I disagree.
Deaths are already a penalised. You lose whatever resources went in to your fitting and once you have run out of clones, the game ends.
From what I've seen, the main purpose of the WP it dictates the amount of SP and ISK you earn. So, if you and this other player are on the same team, yes, they may score more WP than you, they may earn slightly more SP than you for that game, and they may earn slightly more ISK than you, but (assuming they are running a similar fitting to you) they will also have lost 11 times a much ISK in fittings, so their net gain will be considerably lower than yours. In fact, they may even have made a loss.
Dust isn't about kill streaks, as fun as they are to get :-) |
Anyanka Shadowmane
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
80
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Posted - 2012.12.31 14:13:00 -
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BigussDikkuss wrote:Having absolutely no penalty for death when it comes to WP is extremely small minded in my viewpoint.
Why? What do you see as the point of WP if not to earn more ISK and SP? So surely the loss of ISK from the deaths is as much of a penalty? |
Anyanka Shadowmane
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
80
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Posted - 2012.12.31 19:02:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Actually, I think it should be negative points for friendly kills once friendly fire is on. I don't see a need to subtract WP because you died.
I could get behind this, but losing WP in a setting where death is just part of the learning curve seems wrong to me.
Also, some other problems that spring to mind;
Which death would you count as losing yourself WP, when you hit the deck, or when you bleed out?
What happens if you're revived? Do you get the WP back? Shouldn't the person who revived you get more WP for it too?
What happens if you're playing Ambush and are unlucky with your spawns, why should you lose WP for bad luck? What happens if you end up with negative WP? Do you owe SP/ISK to the rest of your team?
Personally, I much prefer games like skirmish, where there is a definite objective, to the ambush style 'kill the other guys' sort of game. From the background stuff I've seen and read, death of a clone isn't a problem, other than the loss of resources, completing the objective is what's important. |
Anyanka Shadowmane
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.01.03 23:07:00 -
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BigussDikkuss wrote:Let me clean up and correct that post of yours cause I'm nice like that. What you meant to say was: "You made a suggestion that I personally do not agree with, and my likewise braindead compatriots also find unpalatable to our SP-ISK grinding suicide runs. I see that you have both explained and justified your opinion on several occasions, but I'm chosing to ignore those points because it would invalidate my argument and make me look like a whiner. The fact that you could possibly enjoy a game that CCP does not have anything to do with and dare to voice such a conceit is unforgivable on this forum."There. Translation complete. 
BigussDikkus,
You seem to have ignored my post where I mentioned some concerns I had about your suggestion (that I personally do not agree with);Anyanka Shadowmane wrote:Some problems that spring to mind;
Which death would you count as losing yourself WP, when you hit the deck, or when you bleed out?
What happens if you're revived? Do you get the WP back? Shouldn't the person who revived you get more WP for it too?
What happens if you're playing Ambush and are unlucky with your spawns, why should you lose WP for bad luck? What happens if you end up with negative WP? Do you owe SP/ISK to the rest of your team?
By all means, continue to ignore these points if they would nvalidate your argument, or make you look like a whiner. |
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