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RECON BY FIRE
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.12.29 02:44:00 -
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I dont know how many times I have to say it before you people will realize it, and no matter how much you ignore it wont change the fact that the current SP cap is a weekly cap of around 300k without passive SP or any sort of boosters. I dont know where 500k came from, but it is either a misconception or was changed after Chromosome. |
Logi Bro
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.12.29 02:45:00 -
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What it really NEEDS to be is 1,000,000, then we wouldn't max in just a couple of days. |
HECATONCHIRES GYGES
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.29 02:48:00 -
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RECON BY FIRE wrote:I dont know how many times I have to say it before you people will realize it, and no matter how much you ignore it wont change the fact that the current SP cap is a weekly cap of around 300k without passive SP or any sort of boosters. I dont know where 500k came from, but it is either a misconception or was changed after Chromosome. False You are wrong and this is a garbage thread. |
RECON BY FIRE
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.12.29 02:53:00 -
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HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote:RECON BY FIRE wrote:I dont know how many times I have to say it before you people will realize it, and no matter how much you ignore it wont change the fact that the current SP cap is a weekly cap of around 300k without passive SP or any sort of boosters. I dont know where 500k came from, but it is either a misconception or was changed after Chromosome. False You are wrong and this is a garbage thread.
Like I said, you can try to ignore it and you can try to claim it as false all you want but it is fact. Go on an alt with no passive SP active on it and no boosters, write down your starting SP, write down your SP when youre consisitently hitting 500 or less SP a match, and then tell me the differance. I gaurantee you it is around 300k SP. If you grind to 0 SP (has anyone actually done this?) you MIGHT (incredibly low odds) hit 400k, but I seriously doubt it. |
Beld Errmon
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
479
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Posted - 2012.12.29 02:54:00 -
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yeah wrong, i've earned about 600k this week, although i didn't write down what my starting SP was. |
RECON BYFIRE
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.12.29 02:58:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:yeah wrong, i've earned about 600k this week, although i didn't write down what my starting SP was.
And Ill bet thats with passive SP and boosters isnt it? Do what I asked HEC to do and come back with your results. You perceive yourself earning more SP than you actually are. |
HECATONCHIRES GYGES
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
151
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Posted - 2012.12.29 03:06:00 -
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RECON BY FIRE wrote:HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote:RECON BY FIRE wrote:I dont know how many times I have to say it before you people will realize it, and no matter how much you ignore it wont change the fact that the current SP cap is a weekly cap of around 300k without passive SP or any sort of boosters. I dont know where 500k came from, but it is either a misconception or was changed after Chromosome. False You are wrong and this is a garbage thread. Like I said, you can try to ignore it and you can try to claim it as false all you want but it is fact. Go on an alt with no passive SP active on it and no boosters, write down your starting SP, write down your SP when youre consisitently hitting 500 or less SP a match, and then tell me the differance. I gaurantee you it is around 300k SP. If you grind to 0 SP (has anyone actually done this?) you MIGHT (incredibly low odds) hit 400k, but I seriously doubt it. I have ...matter of fact I wrote down every match that I played since WED.....every, single, match. Sp rewarded,ISK payout, KDR,1-16,WP also team win or loss.I would run a thread with all that info typed into it because I wrote it down in a note book.But I dont think the community would be interested in it.It would also take a while..but alas I have confirmed,because of my own curiosity.....you are wrong. |
DTOracle
Universal Allies Inc.
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Posted - 2012.12.29 03:08:00 -
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If this were true, I'd being getting 0 sp per match. |
RECON BY FIRE
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.12.29 03:10:00 -
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HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote:RECON BY FIRE wrote:HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote:RECON BY FIRE wrote:I dont know how many times I have to say it before you people will realize it, and no matter how much you ignore it wont change the fact that the current SP cap is a weekly cap of around 300k without passive SP or any sort of boosters. I dont know where 500k came from, but it is either a misconception or was changed after Chromosome. False You are wrong and this is a garbage thread. Like I said, you can try to ignore it and you can try to claim it as false all you want but it is fact. Go on an alt with no passive SP active on it and no boosters, write down your starting SP, write down your SP when youre consisitently hitting 500 or less SP a match, and then tell me the differance. I gaurantee you it is around 300k SP. If you grind to 0 SP (has anyone actually done this?) you MIGHT (incredibly low odds) hit 400k, but I seriously doubt it. I have ...matter of fact I wrote down every match as the sp rewarded....every single match sp rewarded,ISK payout, KDR,1-16,WP also team win or loss.I would run a thread with all that info typed into it because I wrote it down in a note book.But I dont think the community would be interested in it.It would also take a while..but alas I have confirmed,because of my own curiosity.....you are wrong.
You wont post it because you have not in fact done this. You are simply trying to discredit what I am saying (for what reason I have no clue) and refuse to admit you are wrong. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.12.29 03:13:00 -
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hey hey, CCP said it's a daily cap, and went on to explain in great detail how it worked... |
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HECATONCHIRES GYGES
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
151
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Posted - 2012.12.29 03:17:00 -
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RECON BY FIRE wrote:HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote:RECON BY FIRE wrote:HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote:RECON BY FIRE wrote:I dont know how many times I have to say it before you people will realize it, and no matter how much you ignore it wont change the fact that the current SP cap is a weekly cap of around 300k without passive SP or any sort of boosters. I dont know where 500k came from, but it is either a misconception or was changed after Chromosome. False You are wrong and this is a garbage thread. Like I said, you can try to ignore it and you can try to claim it as false all you want but it is fact. Go on an alt with no passive SP active on it and no boosters, write down your starting SP, write down your SP when youre consisitently hitting 500 or less SP a match, and then tell me the differance. I gaurantee you it is around 300k SP. If you grind to 0 SP (has anyone actually done this?) you MIGHT (incredibly low odds) hit 400k, but I seriously doubt it. I have ...matter of fact I wrote down every match as the sp rewarded....every single match sp rewarded,ISK payout, KDR,1-16,WP also team win or loss.I would run a thread with all that info typed into it because I wrote it down in a note book.But I dont think the community would be interested in it.It would also take a while..but alas I have confirmed,because of my own curiosity.....you are wrong. You wont post it because you have not in fact done this. You are simply trying to discredit what I am saying (for what reason I have no clue) and refuse to admit you are wrong. Even if i did you still wouldnt believe me...in your paranoid mind you would believe that the list of after match results were a fabrication...so I couldnt really "prove it to you anyways.........I tell you what.Look me up in game next WED after the reset and write down MY SP and watch me break 300k in the first 2 days....
Like I said before this is a garbage thread and I cant believe that YOU are in Beta Max.....Jenza must be going for Quanity not Quality. |
RECON BY FIRE
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.12.29 03:24:00 -
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HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote: Like I said before this is a garbage thread and I cant believe that YOU are in Beta Max.....Jenza must be going for Quanity not Quality.
Your personal attacks only go to show just how fallacious your comments are. |
IamI3rian
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2012.12.29 03:32:00 -
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We've got more than three people who cap EVERY week. It's significantly more than 600k, and that's with passive. 24,000 x 7 is NOT three hundred thousand.
Hell, when I'm down around 900 or less, I've earned more than 400k as well. This is made even more clear when you divide my total SP by the number of weeks.
Seriously, this is like, fourth grade math or so. |
RECON BY FIRE
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.12.29 04:01:00 -
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IamI3rian wrote:We've got more than three people who cap EVERY week. It's significantly more than 600k, and that's with passive. 24,000 x 7 is NOT three hundred thousand.
Hell, when I'm down around 900 or less, I've earned more than 400k as well. This is made even more clear when you divide my total SP by the number of weeks.
Seriously, this is like, fourth grade math or so.
Once again, do as I asked HEC. This is a beta, we are beta testers, go test and come back with real results; not what you perceive to be the truth. |
KryptixX
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.12.29 04:21:00 -
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RECON BY FIRE wrote:IamI3rian wrote:We've got more than three people who cap EVERY week. It's significantly more than 600k, and that's with passive. 24,000 x 7 is NOT three hundred thousand.
Hell, when I'm down around 900 or less, I've earned more than 400k as well. This is made even more clear when you divide my total SP by the number of weeks.
Seriously, this is like, fourth grade math or so. Once again, do as I asked HEC. This is a beta, we are beta testers, go test and come back with real results; not what you perceive to be the truth.
Why dont you do it and prove it is 300k because obviously no one believes you... |
RECON BY FIRE
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.12.29 04:30:00 -
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KryptixX wrote:RECON BY FIRE wrote:IamI3rian wrote:We've got more than three people who cap EVERY week. It's significantly more than 600k, and that's with passive. 24,000 x 7 is NOT three hundred thousand.
Hell, when I'm down around 900 or less, I've earned more than 400k as well. This is made even more clear when you divide my total SP by the number of weeks.
Seriously, this is like, fourth grade math or so. Once again, do as I asked HEC. This is a beta, we are beta testers, go test and come back with real results; not what you perceive to be the truth. Why dont you do it and prove it is 300k because obviously no one believes you...
I already have 2 weeks in a row on both of my characters. Both weeks I earned about 300k and then didnt get too much after that. Pretty sure one of you Imperfects posted something similar about a week ago that supports my claim. |
DEADPOOL5241
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.12.29 04:34:00 -
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KryptixX wrote:RECON BY FIRE wrote:IamI3rian wrote:We've got more than three people who cap EVERY week. It's significantly more than 600k, and that's with passive. 24,000 x 7 is NOT three hundred thousand.
Hell, when I'm down around 900 or less, I've earned more than 400k as well. This is made even more clear when you divide my total SP by the number of weeks.
Seriously, this is like, fourth grade math or so. Once again, do as I asked HEC. This is a beta, we are beta testers, go test and come back with real results; not what you perceive to be the truth. Why dont you do it and prove it is 300k because obviously no one believes you...
+1 this.
You wont allow anyone else to prove themselves, but you offer not proof yourself.
Obvious stupidity is obvious. |
KryptixX
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.12.29 04:35:00 -
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Your'e claim is just that, a claim. Just like everyone else's in this thread. You dismissed someone else's claim it was 500k and to show evidence. So I am now saying show evidence.
btw cap is 500k |
RECON BY FIRE
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.12.29 04:38:00 -
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RECON BY FIRE wrote:KryptixX wrote:RECON BY FIRE wrote:IamI3rian wrote:We've got more than three people who cap EVERY week. It's significantly more than 600k, and that's with passive. 24,000 x 7 is NOT three hundred thousand.
Hell, when I'm down around 900 or less, I've earned more than 400k as well. This is made even more clear when you divide my total SP by the number of weeks.
Seriously, this is like, fourth grade math or so. Once again, do as I asked HEC. This is a beta, we are beta testers, go test and come back with real results; not what you perceive to be the truth. Why dont you do it and prove it is 300k because obviously no one believes you... I already have 2 weeks in a row on both of my characters. Both weeks I earned about 300k and then didnt get too much after that. Pretty sure one of you Imperfects posted something similar about a week ago that supports my claim.
Luckily it was easy for me to find too cause I remember how much he stated he got that week: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=441986#post441986
In this post HowDidThatTaste says he has earned 465k SP with a passive booster. With normal passive SP coming in at about 168k a week that leaves us with 297k. This doesnt even take into account his passive booster. |
Logi Bro
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
836
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Posted - 2012.12.29 06:05:00 -
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I like how it got quiet in this thread when everyone realized that he had proof, and they had none. |
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Beld Errmon
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
479
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Posted - 2012.12.29 07:04:00 -
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RECON BYFIRE wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:yeah wrong, i've earned about 600k this week, although i didn't write down what my starting SP was. And Ill bet thats with passive SP and boosters isnt it? Do what I asked HEC to do and come back with your results. You perceive yourself earning more SP than you actually are.
alright next week i'll keep track of it and if I'm wrong i'll let you know. |
RECON BY FIRE
BetaMax.
51
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Posted - 2012.12.29 07:12:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:RECON BYFIRE wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:yeah wrong, i've earned about 600k this week, although i didn't write down what my starting SP was. And Ill bet thats with passive SP and boosters isnt it? Do what I asked HEC to do and come back with your results. You perceive yourself earning more SP than you actually are. alright next week i'll keep track of it and if I'm wrong i'll let you know.
Thank you. |
Enji Elric
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears
176
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Posted - 2012.12.29 07:30:00 -
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just wanted to pop in here and say that is doggy doodoo
case in point this wednesday I started with 21365 SP and on thursday I had 365781 sp and still earning in the high hundreds. yes I can say that I had passive SP but that passive sp cannot account for the growth experienced in less than one day
actually less than 12 hours... |
RECON BY FIRE
BetaMax.
51
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Posted - 2012.12.29 07:54:00 -
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Enji Elric wrote:just wanted to pop in here and say that is doggy doodoo
case in point this wednesday I started with 21365 SP and on thursday I had 365781 sp and still earning in the high hundreds. yes I can say that I had passive SP but that passive sp cannot account for the growth experienced in less than one day
actually less than 12 hours...
Like Ive told others already, get on an alt that doesnt have any sort of passive SP or boosters and let us know how much SP you earn before youre consistently getting 500 or less SP. |
Reimus Klinsman
BetaMax.
319
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Posted - 2012.12.29 08:15:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:What it really NEEDS to be is 1,000,000, then we wouldn't max in just a couple of days.
Yes we would cap in a few days. We'd just be getting higher payouts each game. In no time we'd be getting les than 1000 sp.
What people DON'T Realize is that it's not the cap thats annoying, its how the diminishing returns work. It give you a ton of SP for the first several games but then when most of our pool is consumed (in the first few hours) it tapers off to 1000sp a game. |
Deveshi
WarRavens
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Posted - 2012.12.29 08:31:00 -
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ANY CAP ON SP RENDERS ALL BOOSTERS OBSOLETE.
So can someone remind me why we would be paying for aurum? Ah, thats right there is no longer a point!
What a shame, no more income for CCP, no more Dust 514, look what you did you a*s*o*e! |
Logi Bro
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
836
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Posted - 2012.12.29 08:33:00 -
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Deveshi wrote:ANY CAP ON SP RENDERS ALL BOOSTERS OBSOLETE.
So can someone remind me why we would be paying for aurum? Ah, thats right there is no longer a point!
What a shame, no more income for CCP, no more Dust 514, look what you did you a*s*o*e!
Whoa, deja vu
I'll go ahead and say it again. Passive SP has no cap, so boosters are not obsolete, plus people use AUR for more than just boosters, so CCP will still make money from that. |
Enji Elric
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears
176
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Posted - 2012.12.29 08:45:00 -
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RECON BY FIRE wrote:Enji Elric wrote:just wanted to pop in here and say that is doggy doodoo
case in point this wednesday I started with 21365 SP and on thursday I had 365781 sp and still earning in the high hundreds. yes I can say that I had passive SP but that passive sp cannot account for the growth experienced in less than one day
actually less than 12 hours... Like Ive told others already, get on an alt that doesnt have any sort of passive SP or boosters and let us know how much SP you earn before youre consistently getting 500 or less SP. I really don't need to
356781-21365=344416 even if you want to say it was my passive booster then ok I logged off at 1935(CST) and logged in again at 0654(CST) when I had the 365781 was at 1125 (CST) If you want to say it was the passives then ok that still means the cap is higher than 300,000 because the passives cannot account for 44,416 SP over 8 hours ( no booster)
and besides if you go until 500 per game your still not capped 0 per game is capped. |
Enji Elric
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears
176
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Posted - 2012.12.29 08:46:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Deveshi wrote:ANY CAP ON SP RENDERS ALL BOOSTERS OBSOLETE.
So can someone remind me why we would be paying for aurum? Ah, thats right there is no longer a point!
What a shame, no more income for CCP, no more Dust 514, look what you did you a*s*o*e! Whoa, deja vuI'll go ahead and say it again. Passive SP has no cap, so boosters are not obsolete, plus people use AUR for more than just boosters, so CCP will still make money from that.
agreed on the passive bit +1 |
Deveshi
WarRavens
144
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Posted - 2012.12.29 08:49:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Deveshi wrote:ANY CAP ON SP RENDERS ALL BOOSTERS OBSOLETE.
So can someone remind me why we would be paying for aurum? Ah, thats right there is no longer a point!
What a shame, no more income for CCP, no more Dust 514, look what you did you a*s*o*e! Whoa, deja vuI'll go ahead and say it again. Passive SP has no cap, so boosters are not obsolete, plus people use AUR for more than just boosters, so CCP will still make money from that.
and active boosters? Or are those just suppost to be a con? Something tells me you haven't thought the marketing side of this through. |
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