Do you know that there is a nanohive that restores both health and Ammo?

You mean armor perhaps....

Do you know that there is a nanohive that restores both health and Ammo?

Next you will be asking for an AR suit to be able to weild a HMG

Yes.
Did you check the market?

No

The way things are set now is so that there is a balance in between the classes so that no one class can do everything it's to promote diversity on the battlefield and more importantly it makes you think about what you really want to do in the battle. Theres an old proverb that states "He who chases two hares catches none" in other words set your sights on too many different things and you're bound to fail. The more points you sink into a suit the more variants you can use and the higher tier suits do have more slots,Grid and CPU for you to use, at the risk of losing an expensive suit.

Finally can you use Dust terminology, we don't use medkits we use nano injectors and nano hives. You're playing Dust and posting in a Dust forum theres really very little sense in trying to use your own lingo when the rest of the community calls things as they are actually named.

Fantastic input right here...

i think it is a waste of your money to run a 80% nanite injector.

1. more cpu and pg
2. more expensive
3. if you pick people up they have 80% armor. if you are a logi with reps you only have 20% left to repair = less points for repairing.
if you just use the militia version you get people back up at 20% armor and you have 80% to repair. WP WP WP EVERYWHERE!!!!!!!

i think it is a waste of your money to run a 80% nanite injector.

1. more cpu and pg
2. more expensive
3. if you pick people up they have 80% armor. if you are a logi with reps you only have 20% left to repair = less points for repairing.
if you just use the militia version you get people back up at 20% armor and you have 80% to repair. WP WP WP EVERYWHERE!!!!!!!

First off, I get 80 percent off my WPs on wednesdays so I really dont get this.
And in a way youre saying that gaining more WP for you is more important than the surviveabilty of your teammates.
And the militi is 30 percent, not 20.

And in general terms I dont get the notion that picking people up should mostly be done by Logis.

And I definately dont get this claimthat carrying an AR and a medikit is DOING IT ALL.

Thanks for stating the obvious. I know all this.

Out of all the multitudes of roles in Dust, carrying ONE weapon and a medkit should (again, my prefferance) be possible without running out of ammo after 3 minutes. Or having to use a suit dedicated to the purpose of carrying equipment, or an expensive proto suit I really dont think making the medlkit more easily accessaable will ruin anything but CCPs profit margin, which I really dont like since a wealthy developer normally equals more support for the game.

AR + nanohive and medkit = putting logis out of a job

Majority of AR users would run this because they can and also it has much better tank than a logi and a sidearm slot for your SMG

Only reason you would run logi maybe for the reppers and drop uplinks but you could prob whack em on an AR suit if it has 2 equipment slots

It is doing it all with this method, you might aswell get rid of all classes and just make the AR suit standard with 3 equip slots and also a heavy slot so you can wield a HMG or forge gun

Why have diff suits when the Assault can do it all?

Well perhaps Im thinking too big.

Scout class for speed, stamina, stealth, cloacking and so on.

Heavies for AV, LAV torpedoes, heavy assault on fortified positions, has the ability to carry weapons too heavy for anyone
else.

Logis for constructing installations and maintainng or repair them, same for vehicles, and has the special ability to carry lots off different stuff making it the most verstile unit on the battlefield.

Assault, good at killing, surviving and restock his own ammo.

You sure about that? I'm pretty sure it forgoes it's ammo producing abilities to heal otherwise everyone who specced into nano hives would carry them... unless they didn't want to spend the isk on them but if they did ammo and health why wouldn't you.

First off Dust is going to be free to play, the only money they get is from people buying AUR, isk costs them nothing to distribute and they get nothing back from it, some people will play this game and not pay a single cent. So that argument about profit is invalid.

I dont agree with this but as its hardly important ill ignore it

Secondly if you know all this then why complain? Do you honestly believe that if you used a weapon in the real world as much as you used it in this game you'd have ammo to spare? I didn't think so. And really every suit save the heavies can carry a nanohive. It's not even that hard to fit one. Like I said before fit for what you want to do and if ammo is your concern then fit a nanohive.

Knowing doesnt equal agreeing. And dont give me the real world argument, its utterly useless. In the real wold I could have carried both a thingy that gives me more ammo and a shot to give my buddy.

Furthermore guess what? Not everyone shares your gaming style people want to CHOOSE how they play thats why there are different suits. You want one weapon and nano hives/injectors? Then use a logi simple. Pick a suit that fits you and don't worry about how others play.

And again use Dust terminology your "medkit" has gone from being a nanoinjector (that revives players) to a nanohive (which restores ammo) and no Dust should not implement an item that combines both so don't even go there.

I think you are a little confused, I want them to be seperate objects, I just want as a frontline solder to fit both.

So youre all basically telling me to play the way I want I need to stick to assault proto suits, ok then, no cheap sollution for me......

Logis have exactly what you want, one weapon, 3 equipment slots, you can have everything you described you wanted. They even have more PG and CPU than assaults they just have less armour, shielding, they move slower and have less stam as a result.

I think you are a little confused, I want them to be seperate objects, I just want as a frontline solder to fit both.

So youre all basically telling me to play the way I want I need to stick to assault proto suits, ok then, no cheap sollution for me......

This is an awkward moment because you just realized medic-kits exists in the game.

Finally can you use Dust terminology, we don't use medkits we use nano injectors and nano hives. You're playing Dust and posting in a Dust forum theres really very little sense in trying to use your own lingo when the rest of the community calls things as they are actually named.

What Id like to see that would fix this issue really easy,
A. Give us an Advanced level AR suit with two equipment slots, it can be compansated by removing something else or in some other way take something from it. I can afford to go gwith a 25K type-B, but not with a 90K protosuit.
B. Make the assault class have a dedicated medkit slot that cant be used for anything else. In my oppinion carrying a medkit should be as natural as carrying a gun if youre beside me in my trench.
C. Make a series of medkits that can be allowed to be fitted in the sidearm slot.


4. The inevital uggliness of the thruth.
CCP is trying to make a great game as a main priority, but they also need to make some money too, and each time someone picks me and my AUR stuff up, CCP in a way lost a little money. So here is the conundrum. The more the game caters to the medics, the less money they make so why even bother...



5. What kind of game will we have...
As a former MAG player Im used to a game sentered around the medkit. Not having a medkit, or not even having the best one got you labeled as a tryhard and you werent welcome in most clans. The medic game was almost as important as the gungame. In MAG hiting someone with a medkit was really easy, people sprang to life instantly with full health and no one ever complained. Not saying that a 1200 HP fatty should spring back fully charged, but I do question the standard 30%. Shooting dead enemies on the ground to bleed them out was an essential part of defending an objective.


So the question is really, what kind of game do we want.... A game were the medkit is an equipment just as the rest, or could we lift it up and make it more accessable and common, I would like that a lot...

I am all for more suit variants, but making it a standard feature negates the role of logi.
Maybe an assault suit with no sidearm, one less high slot but an extra equipment slot and higher CPU/PG?

Sure, make a broad spectrum of suits, where some even blur the lines between the euit classes but don't ruin one suits fous to make it convienient for another

AR suits having a dedicated medkit slot? lolno

Next you will be asking for an AR suit to be able to weild a HMG

Logi suits are made for carrying all items, AR has one slot and if you choose a nanohive then so be it but no are you trying to make the logi suit redundent?

What is it with AR users wanting it to do everything? its already the jack of most trades as it is

Well here we go again.Another person trying to make DUST 514 into a game that they are more familiar with,instead of a new gaming experience that the devs want to give us.

Everyone wants this game to be easy,and I wish those people would just go away.I use a nanite injector with an AR on one of my fits,and I have no problem with it.The only problem with the nanite injectors is that the actual mechanics of using them are still a bit broken right now,other than that,get use to them,or go play something else.

Ill stick with my killing then, and only the killing, not much else I can do in an assault suit that isnt a proto.

Playing with an AR without a nanohive just doesnt work for me.